The real news is that there's NINJA RUN cheevos which means there's a chance that the SIGMA 2 PLUS vita content is in this package.
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I feel like this is the only platform where the Sigma games actually make sense, since Xbox ALREADY has Ninja Gaiden Black & Ninja Gaiden 2 in 4K. These are already the best versions of these games. Meanwhile, the Sigma games never came out on Xbox as far as I know.
Ninja Gaiden Hurricane Packs/NGB and Sigma all added in an actual controlled camera alongside the FPS camera. You have to press in on the right stick to change the behaviour of the stick. By default it does FPS camera but if you press it in it will let you rotate the camera around like a standard 3rd person camera.
You should know that both of those are oversimplified. The problems that people have with Sigma 2 to vanilla 2 is much more than just 'no blood and enemy layouts.' They are essentially like playing two vastly different games in their approach. People just get disingenuous with their comparisons because a lot of people didn't like vanilla NG2 for various reasons. Sigma 1 to Black is less pronounced in their differences, though
Wow, I didn't realise that! I think I replayed 10 hours of NGB on the X a couple of years ago with camera frustration, and that was an option the whole time?! Mind blown.
PC versions should be fairly workable here for modders, I'd imagine. I'm willing to bet we'll see the original versions of the games restored for the most part by the modding community, omitting the Sigma additions/changes.
It was kinda busted at launch lol, then like all good game patches, the first patch broke a load of stuff and introduced game breaking glitches, then finally they patched it to the state it's at on Game Pass. Plus, of you're playing it on anything apart from an Xbox One S, you're getting a bunch of performance improvements thanks to the hardware, on top of the patches.
That's possible on Vita, Ultimate Ninja Trails were impossible. Just difficult.
From what I'm seeing on the list, you just have to complete all the Normal Trails, which is possible solo.
Also, the Vita version had blood. Not stupid over the top like the original II, but not purple mist.
There was some Canadian retailer claiming it was but nothing official yet
Ah good good. If that is the case this is a hard yet obtainable platinum
There was nothing broken about the game. I finished the unpatched version at least 8 times. There were slowdowns that were later patched.
That would be a very tall order for Sigma 2. I kind of doubt it's possible since the amount you'd have to rework is pretty extensive, and also there were entire levels reworked from 2. I don't see it happening. Sigma one is possible, though, I imagine
As mentioned above, it's extreme hyperbole to say that NG2 was near unplayable at launch to begin with. It had real technical issues, sure, but as someone who played the game to death on the 360, it was playable. But to answer the core of your question, the game got a lot of enhancements for Xbox One when it became BC so it plays buttery smooth now, as far as framerate.
Yup. Ever since the hurricane packs for the OG. I would still suggest though to not try to do manual camera control during combat though. You'll absolutely get bodied at higher difficulty levels. Since it's still really designed around the camera reset.
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Just tried it now. It works! But controls are inverted. Not sure if I change that.
I have them all Xbox BC but I would get this for the HDR, 4k and high fps. Hopefully they retouched some of the textures, lighting, etc.
After seeing the trophies, I'm mildly optimistic that this isn't just a cash grab. There is some thought put into this port.
Hopefully I can see some footage of all the games soon.
Hopefully I can see some footage of all the games soon.
As some have mentioned, I think the most surprising news is that the achievement list implies that Sigma+ content from the vita will be included. That makes the collection a little more than a simple port for me.
This is the latest statement:
We'll have details regarding physical and digital when pre-orders become available
Black is already available at 4k60 on Xbox One X/Series X fwiw. It's not like purists don't have the option.
If you read it, it only says complete at Normal Missions for the achievement/trophy.
Yeah, honestly the extra costumes would go a long way for me alone if nothing else.
Both Black and NG2 have been available on the MS Store for quite some time now!
With that said, the sigma versions aren't that bad, especially S1.
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Agreed. That costume is amazing.Sigma is trash since it doesnt include the GOAT alternate costume
Wait, I'm confused. Are there going to be 2 separate releases of the trilogy? One Sigma versions and one regular?
In Sigma 2's case, they created a version of NG2 within Sigma 1's engine, and the enemy count is a lot lower and the enemies are a lot tankier. Also 30fps cap but this port will fix that.
Here's a fun faceoff from early Digital Foundry, before they split from Eurogamer. This is a fun image comparison:
Less Wolves/10.
no. you can only get originals on xbox through backwards compatibility
The issues with NG2 lie more in its encounter design than any technical issues. It had some slowdown but the combat rocked. I'd assume the framerate issues are more or less solved on BC anyways, so that leaves the more game-y problems (which some fans don't mind, so it's more of a YMMV situation).
Game just felt like it needed more time. I didn't play Sigma 2, but it sounds like it took a different approach entirely to solving some of the issues I had. Interested in trying that one out to see what I think.
There's a huge step-up in cheese enemy damage between normal and hard on NG2. Performance issues have gone though.
It depends. These games rely more on twitch skills than strategy. If your reflexes are good they can be easier. If not, well you may have difficulties.
Not interested unless they uncensor Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2.
Give me blood, not shitty purple mist.
Give me blood, not shitty purple mist.
Sigma is trash since it doesnt include the GOAT alternate costume
What a bullshit reasoning. It's just a personal preference of yours. At least now I know that there could be many others who shit on Sigma for this specific petty reason.
Ninja Gaiden on higher difficulties is more akin to Sekiro. Lots of dodging, parrying and moving around.
Bare minimum they should not have given achievements for DMC2 as it's a game with zero fans so no one would've cared.
Yeah, no one's missing vanilla NG3 but NGB and NGll really should be in this collection along with the Sigma titles as the collection feels incomplete without them. At the very least Xbox owners can have the complete experience as the BC versions of NGB and NGll are effectively remasters with NGB in particular actually running in native 4k 60fps.
there's a store listing so people can see what features they're including.