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Ninja Gaiden II [Xbox One BC - X Enhanced] |OT| No More Stair-Stepping
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The robot-xenomorphs (damn this game has some crazy enemy types) do although I certainly didn't recall that my first time against the armadillos. Died>tried to dodge>finally blocked on my third try. Ultimately I think it was just some old fashioned trolling from Itagaki.
Edit: beaten by JustinH
Fair enough lol. I'd argue the looseness and lack of resistance makes them far worse than the 360 sticks. "Crappier" was maybe a bit... unnecessary.
From what I understand, I'm in the minority, but after the short "adjustment" I had to go through when the X1 launched, I far and away prefer the Xbox One's "looser/smoother" sticks to the 360's.
I like to play with a little above-default aiming sensitivity so I can turn faster when I need to, so I tend to make smaller movements with my right stick when aiming. On the 360 pad, since it's tighter it feels like there's a "bump" I need to overcome before I'm actually aiming with the stick (not sure if that makes sense).
Yeah, that makes sense. There's a dead zone. It's all really down to preference. I'd never suggest someone who prefers the Xbox One thumbsticks is "wrong."
Actually the Worm boss is really easy to defeat. Bow and arrow is your friend ;) In terms of challenge, Sigma 2 is a huge downgrade. They also butchered the New Game+ Into a chapter challenge, sure its nice to choose any chapter, but i would have liked to carry over my health, essence and nimpo to a new playthrough.
Ninja gaiden has always been about the challenge, and sigma is lacking that. It may have prettier graphics, but the Original NG2 is a far better game.
And what i was talking about, that the Regular worms sometimes glitch through the ground. This is still a issue on the X1X version as well.
Sure but the repeated point I've been trying to make is that the worm boss isn't a good boss. It's easily the worse boss across NGll & Sigma 2.
Difficulty isn't necessarily my problem with the bosses in NGll but bosses like the worm and armadillo I just don't think are particularly well designed.
Well sure but it's not like NGB couldn't be instant UT'd to death either.
Sorry if I came across that way. I didn't mean to imply that you said that.
Back on topic... anyone else hoard these, lol?
I have 15 of the life of the gods single pearls too. I'm only on Chapter 9 of my Scythe-only run (I just want a new achievement). I get really tempted to just pop them all at the same time too (I have one of the Ninpo increase ones too). I guess I'm still upset at getting to the last boss in Warrior last year and having no healing items left when I got to his final form (again). I'm only playing Acolyte now, though and I'm only in Chapter 9 so far.
I basically hoard them until I'm about to die then crack them out for the full health heal. I've been kind of slipping on Warrior though (chapters 8/9 are bitches) so I don't have any left. :(
Yeah, same lol. Although if I ever do end up needing to use one 9times/10 I'll just reload and try again. I'm pretty sure I used one on this playthrough, but I'm really worried about that
congregation fight that I can't remember if it's actually part of the final boss or leading up to the final boss.
Yo it's really this pretty on Xbox One X? I have an Xbox One S and I havent gotten around to trying it, but I might have to get an X if it looks that crazy lol. NG2 is one of my favorites.
Lol I know right? I've always loved both series so I'm sitting here reading these arguments like I'm back in 2006 and it's great. It would be so amazing if there was a new true NG to compete with DMC5 though.
Lol I swear I had to check the year on the posts when I saw people posting DMC gifs and trotting out "skill ceiling" and "pre canned animations" as arguments again. I have stepped back 10 years in time.
Isn't it kind of amazing that this 10 year old game is still a contender against the latest dmc?
On Chapter 9 now - the projectile spam is just as annoying as I remember but man it makes the OTs on those guys feel good.
Was there ever a consensus on what the best weapons were? Staff and Scythe seem most useful for me.
I think RE was in one of the initial BC promo images - at least that is what I've heard on this forum, I haven't seen it myself.
I would also love to see it, it's not on the level of this game or black but i still had fun with it. Judging by the fact that Black and 2 are on BC though, I think it's more of a when, not an if.
Was there ever a consensus on what the best weapons were? Staff and Scythe seem most useful for me.
I think RE was in one of the initial BC promo images - at least that is what I've heard on this forum, I haven't seen it myself.
I would also love to see it, it's not on the level of this game or black but i still had fun with it. Judging by the fact that Black and 2 are on BC though, I think it's more of a when, not an if.
Kind of off topic, but I played through the first 3 chapters of this and then went back to Sekiro and beat 3 mini bosses. NG really does up your reflex game when it's atrophied.
Yeah, but it feels to me like NG2 that's basically what you have to do. It's not so much a requirement in the predecessor.
Back on topic... anyone else hoard these, lol?
I have 15 of the life of the gods single pearls too. I'm only on Chapter 9 of my Scythe-only run (I just want a new achievement). I get really tempted to just pop them all at the same time too (I have one of the Ninpo increase ones too). I guess I'm still upset at getting to the last boss in Warrior last year and having no healing items left when I got to his final form (again). I'm only playing Acolyte now, though and I'm only in Chapter 9 so far.
I did that on my MN playthrough. I hoarded them for the full heals but never actually used them for the heals stupidly. I got to Dagra Dai and had like 5 of them. Probably didn't make my life any easier.
I don't know about best, but I like using the Dragon Sword and the Talons the most. With the Falcon Talons (or whatever they're called) it's just so easy to pop off limbs of ninjas and vengelf so you can OT them and get them out of the way quickly.
I just got done with my scythe-only run, and while I found some times when I think it made the encounter easier (like bosses since it seemed to stagger them more than I remember seeing them get staggered by other weapons), I don't think I like using it most of the time. It's so slow to start up a swing, you know? That UT for it, though... pretty useful.
borf... I should probably go to sleep lol
Geez, I'm just scrub on Acolyte lol. I had 7 going into the Archfiend fight along with 18 single pearls, and used those instead of the healing items and ended up using 2 sets of the single pearls and 3 of the sets. I think I'd probably need all of those when I get there on Warrior lol. I just started a Warriror run after I did my scythe-only acolyte and I've started squirreling them away again (well as much as I can up to Chapter 3).
Back on topic... anyone else hoard these, lol?
I have 15 of the life of the gods single pearls too. I'm only on Chapter 9 of my Scythe-only run (I just want a new achievement). I get really tempted to just pop them all at the same time too (I have one of the Ninpo increase ones too). I guess I'm still upset at getting to the last boss in Warrior last year and having no healing items left when I got to his final form (again). I'm only playing Acolyte now, though and I'm only in Chapter 9 so far.
I thought they didn't give you a full heal.
I seem to remember that was the case in original Ninja Gaiden but they removed it for Ninja Gaiden Black and 2. I could be very mistaken.
Chapter 11 on Path of Mentor frame rate test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAHyP5B-_I
Working my way up to Master Ninja next after i beat Mentor :)
Working my way up to Master Ninja next after i beat Mentor :)
Crimson Skies is BC but I think this is the thread you are looking for:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/xb...bility-ot-who-wants-to-pay-for-remasters.643/
Beat it today. Awesome overall, but Dagra dai and next fight are pretty bad. Wish I could go straight to Master Ninja. Misson Mode instead then.
I love how the Fails delimb rate on those purple/ and flying fiends are so frikin great with >Y. Seems like a weak weapon, but really not.
Ninja Gaiden 4 on next gen.. I still dream it can be great if they take a shot. Hopefully new engine with lessons learned from Nioh.
It needs stances with different attack animations on all, the depth in combat could be insane.
I love how the Fails delimb rate on those purple/ and flying fiends are so frikin great with >Y. Seems like a weak weapon, but really not.
Ninja Gaiden 4 on next gen.. I still dream it can be great if they take a shot. Hopefully new engine with lessons learned from Nioh.
It needs stances with different attack animations on all, the depth in combat could be insane.
Late game question for those that have beaten it on Xbox One
Did the hit box feel off on the
? So many arrows into the head or the orb just did not register despite aiming at the right things at the right time. Pretty infuriating and I never remembered having this much trouble - trying to figure out if I'm remembering wrong or there is an actual issue.
All in all, game Is as good as I remember and I still love it, but man that boss gauntlet at the end and the projectile spam can be REALLY bad
Did the hit box feel off on the
archfiend boss fight (phase one)
All in all, game Is as good as I remember and I still love it, but man that boss gauntlet at the end and the projectile spam can be REALLY bad
Yes, felt the same about the head. But in the end of the fight it got better, if I'm not wrong, I think it was because I did UT (two charges) with the bow, not ET (one charge).
Is there any differences with the Japanese version than the others? Uncensored, different mechanics, etc.?
I usually just use the auto aim with 2 charges on the bow. It pretty much always hit. I just beat it today too. Game is definitely front loaded but still pretty great. I tried the first level on mentor and that spider guy blasted my ass with all his explosive shuriken minions. jesus
Interesting - I was having a ton of trouble so I looked it up and found a few people saying not to aim manually, I wonder what I was doing wrong because I tried using auto aim right after that and literally did not hit him once. Had to switch back to manual aim.
Are you supposed to do one over the other? Most of my shots were UT. It seemed like the head hit box was just a small part of his forehead.
By the end of this fight I had no healing items for the final boss. Still beat him but it was a lot more intense with one ninpo charge and no healing at all.
I don't know, just got more consistent in the end, when I used UT. If ET works also, then I guess it's small/bad hitbox. Yeah same happen'd to me. Bad Boss phase fight imo (And I loove the game).
I finished it yesterday. The drop in quality from chap 11 onwards is quite something. Ugly areas, boss repeats, spammy enemies (seriously the whole horde of Black Spider ninjas with explosive shuriken spamming from chapter 11 can get FUCKED)... it's fairly obvious they ran out of time or resources. The first ten chapters are superb at least.
Wow, I've never tried just auto aiming the bow. I've always just manual-aimed besides when you're like... fighting llying dragons. Maybe I've been making that fight harder for myself?
Acolyte is "easy" and Warrior is "normal." I think either way could probably be a fine place to start to be honest. Even though you've beaten NG:B on normal, NGII is something you're supposed to play differently (as in, more aggressively) so I don't know if it would be a bad idea to get used to it in an "easy" playthrough first. Then again, it might be better to get used to the normal difficulty first, rather than being accustomed to "easy."
I've may have already responded to this comment but I saw it come up again and I MIGHT be with you. I've been side tracked lately so I haven't had a ton of time to play this (especially with MK11 having just come out) and I've loved what I've played of it as I did back in the day but I definitely remember liking certain things about Sigma 2 more.
There have been a few people posting in this thread that they didn't like this game as much as NGB because of stuff like offscreen enemy projectile spam, the combat becoming less about experimenting with moves and more centered around stringing Obliteration Technique attacks, etc. I would be genuinely curious to know what those individuals would think of Sigma 2 I say this because Sigma 2 definitely makes some tweaks to that sort of stuff (less projectile spam, enemies are more durable leaving them open to more experimentation, etc) along with much of the other stuff I previously mentioned in this thread. Obviously, the changes violence suck. Also the removal of the Trials and much lower frame rate are huge black eyes on Sigma 2.
I hope to play through this and Sigma 2 on multiple difficulties very soon (maybe I'll even make a thread on it about playing chapter by chapter of each version on every difficulty?)
I recently replayed Sigma 2, but is it just me, or is the game just easier compared NG2. I understand they removed most of the spamming projectiles. But they removed so much from the game, that it is now a cakewalk. Sad that they never released an updated version on the X360. Maybe one day we will get a proper Remaster.
On lower and middle difficulties Sigma 2 is definitely easier than NG2 but I think the difficulty is comparable to NG2 on some of the higher difficulties (though again, NG2 is harder) but stuff like projectile spam is a big reason for that.
Sigma 2 is simple a downgrade compared to the original. Master Ninja is no joke on NG2, but on Sigma 2 its much more manageable. While explosive enemies can be annoying, they're not as bad as people may think. There's many ways to deal with them.
Yes, they're very manageable but for me they're still annoying despite being manageable. Also, calling Sigma 2 a simple downgrade is a oversimplification of what that port actually is. It's very flawed but they did some cool and smart stuff with that version.
Nah, you are not the only one. I still cant find a reliable combo / pattern to take advantage of on him. I always burn a few potions on him due to all the lightning and chip damage.
The Archfiend is pretty easy in comparison.
I was only playing on Acolyte when I did my scythe-only run, but I was able to beat him easier than I ever did before using just the scythe>Jump>X>Y (when you do that blade flip thingy). Seemed to do a lot of damage and I think it might've even staggered him. That was on Acolyte though, so that might not be the case on Normal and up.
