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NHL 2020-21 Season |OT| More Ads, No Fans.
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makeup call is incoming and unlike the Canucks PP, the Oilers might score.
I kind of miss that first season where it felt like everyone but the other team knew it was going in before it left his stick. Crazy good game for him tonight, though.
I remember those days. Can't wait to get shut out by Marky 😃
I like the Hawks.
I'm just wondering what the Canucks are supposed to be good at. It isn't goaltending, defense or offense. Elias Pettersen was a non-entity.
Running goaltenders out of town, I have big hopes for this season's Holtby-Demko edition.
You know they played last night, too, right?
I'm not even going to argue that the Canucks are good at any of those things, or that "Pettersen" is an 'entity' (I'm sure he's not), but your timing seems off following a B2B split in Edmonton.
Connor "Best Hockey Player On The Planet" had a decent night, he could have had the same 3-4 points the night before.
McDavid completely ate the Petterson line alive head to head.
McDavid had 4 points and the Pettersson line wasn't on the ice for any of them, but yeah Pettersson and his line were awful nevertheless. Two crossbars on the PP and that's about it
The real problem:
He was really bad and it was night 2. This schedule is going to turn Edler to dust.
Lets be honest, anyone who watched that game would tell you ... McDavid was on a different planet from anyone else on the ice and that even includes Draisaitl who's the reigning scoring champion. McDavid could have easily had 2-3 more points than what he had.
When he is on his game, he's on a different level.
McDavid is definitely one of the top 3 or 5 forwards in the NHL. There's a reason why he continues to finish in that range in Hart trophy voting. He was excellent tonight. Maybe he has a career year.
If you want someone to exchange masturbatory clichés about your favourite player, try Shroki, Parch, or Cake Boss
I think he's been the best player really since 2016-2017. He just got handcuffed by Peter Chiarelli's stupidity and the team is slowly coming out of that funk.
It's like Mario Lemieux in his first 5 seasons in Pittsburgh if Wayne Gretzky wasn't around. People started to say he wasn't a really great player and couldn't lift a team because Gretzky was doing XYZ ... well no shit, Gretzky had an All-Star team around him, Mario didn't.
[EDIT] Not worth it
I will say.... no one is saying McDavid isn't "really great", nor did they say that about Lemieux. Hedid ridiculous things on his own in his first five years, doubling his teammates in points, without a Draisatl by his side. McDavid also isn't destined a Cup, if that's what you're implying. There are 32 teams now and Edmonton is one of the least desirable cities.
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Who's saying McDavid isn't a really great player? Who ever said Lemieux wasn't a really great player? That's a strange analogy for a few reasons.
He also basically dragged them into the playoffs in his fifth season with no Draisatl equivalent. This was understood.
Yes, McDavid has been a great player on shitty teams. But few, if any, are suggesting he can't win a Cup. He's also not destined to win one either. This is a soon-to-be 32-team league and Edmonton is one of the least desirable cities out there.
There was actually a time when people looked at Mario as a loser and not the heir apparent to Gretzky. Not sure what Edmonton as a city has to do with anything.
It's hilarious too, when he's on his game, you what watching an NHL game with him is like ... it's basically like when you watch a bunch of 8 year olds playing hockey and for whatever reason one 11 year old is allowed to play with them and clearly shouldn't be allowed to, lol.
I've never seen anyone do the things at the speed he can do them at.
I understood what you were saying. I just think it's a misrepresentation or at least an overstatement.
And I mentioned Edmonton being shitty because it's going to make it more difficult to draw in free agents, players with NTCs, retain players at good value, etc
He's the most talented/gifted player in the NHL. Easily.
You don't become a top team through UFA signings though almost no great team is built that way. Chiarelli clear as day mismanaged a wealth of assets and opportunities gifted to him, but they are starting to get some things go their way.
Yamamoto looks really good.
A lot of times "winning the UFA sweepstakes" isn't a great thing either ... like Lucic, lol. They did get Tyson Barrie to take a discount from what the reports were, the Canucks offered more money.
I don't think anyone can deny that Connor McDavid is the most talented, most explosive player in the league. I'm not really phased by a Canucks fan calling him a "top-3 to top-5" forward based on some nonsense about his defensive foibles. There is an overwhelming consensus behind the obvious truth that he is the best player in the league, forward or otherwise and the Canucks have never had a player as good as he is.
And don't come at me with Pavel Bure.
My dude, what are you even talking about?
I didn't say "you become a top team through UFA signings" and you ignored what I did actually say. Location matters to players and complementing your team with free agents, trade targets and signing good contracts generally can be complicated when the location is Edmonton. Building through the draft is always the way to go, but not on its own.
Also congratulations on Tyson Barrie? Or was that supposed to support your Lucic argument?
Quote me a third time, unsolicited, and repeat your calmness, to really drive the point home!
Goodnight, Oilers faithful. Let's do this again - maybe 7 more times?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I quoted you once. To laugh at the stupid thing you said that would get you side-eye from just about any hockey person.
But sure, we'll do this another 8 times. I like watching actual superstars walk the Canucks for like 3 points each every game.
2nd time:
Keep it cool, salt mine. Just two games in!
All Canadian teams have a problem with signing big ticket UFAs ... taxes are higher, the travel is worse, the weather is generally worse, and you can't go most public places without being bothered.
But even so, you look at Tampa, Pittsburgh, etc. are teams pretty much all built through drafting and development, and yes some high end lottery picks. UFA signings are generally a pretty shit way to build a team and most teams end up regretting the big money they spend on UFAs (hello Loui Erikkson).
Tyson Barrie didn't have a great year last year in Toronto, don't think that was the best fit for him given they already have Reilly, but dude is among the highest scoring defenceman in the NHL over the last 4-5 years and can move the puck reasonably well for 1 year 3 mill-ish, you're not gonna find much more on the open market.
Location doesn't really matter in terms of building a winner. Your GM definitely does though, doesn't matter how great a player is, they need help from a GM. Even arguably the greatest team athlete of the last 30 years (Michael Jordan) couldn't get anything done until Bulls management finally hit pay dirt on a couple of draft picks (Pippen and Grant) and basketball is a sport where a star player has far more impact than a hockey player can.
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I am surprised by those Barrie heat maps, particularly on the PP for someone relatively vaunted in that area. Micah does make the point he is very inconsistent however.
I wish we lived in a reality where Chiarelli wasn't the GM. Not even an Oilers fan, but I think the team was just as loaded as the 80s Oilers up front and was and set up to win multiple cups before he made several awful trades (Hall, Eberle & 2015 1st round pick).
Edmonton can attract FAs, and both McDavid and Draisaitl eagerly signed long term contracts. And Edmonton now has arguably the best NHL facilities in the league. The history, the tradition, the rink. Edmonton is a hockey town. Players have no problem being an Oiler.
It's going to be interesting. The natural rivalries are now happening for an entire season. There's also a ton of offense in the Canadian division. There will be no shortage of wild games and rowdy craziness.