I think Gruden goes after Le'Veon as well, while the draft will be heavily focused on defense.
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NFL-OT | OFF-SEASON - A New Hope (Losers Only)
- Thread starter Fantomex
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30 million for 3 years is not that much in the scheme of things, if your a team with cap space you honestly should have gone in at that price.
Yes. The raiders basically stole one of the best WRs in the game for a 3rd round pick.
The Steelers got absolutely screwed and I find it hilarious.
A world where we can't make fun of Gruden anymore is one that I don't want to live in
I absolutely do not want it, but I can't see how the Raiders are not on Hard Knocks this year
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3rd and 5th round.
Either way they got fleeced ahhaah, I love it.
And AB announced it before Steelers Organization. He's so done with them, this is hilarious
Can't say I expected to get up for some water and see this deal done. That's... a pretty good trade. And $16m a year ain't as bad as I expected.
Still, that third rounder does hold quite a bit of value in this draft. There's historically such a drop off in players who make a significant impact/stick around the league from rounds 4-7 (although, 4th round has seemingly gained some stream in recent years) that those picks should absolutely be used to supplement trades, though.
So we gave up pick 66 if memory serves. There will definitely be value in that pick for the Steelers. But fuck it, I think we actually won this trade and it feels weird to say that.
Edit: I'd have to think that this also means that we won't reach on a WR with a 1st round pick. So that makes me happy.
Edit 2: Looks like a possible $18m/yr with max incentives. Better than the $20m that was being reported I suppose.
Still, that third rounder does hold quite a bit of value in this draft. There's historically such a drop off in players who make a significant impact/stick around the league from rounds 4-7 (although, 4th round has seemingly gained some stream in recent years) that those picks should absolutely be used to supplement trades, though.
So we gave up pick 66 if memory serves. There will definitely be value in that pick for the Steelers. But fuck it, I think we actually won this trade and it feels weird to say that.
Edit: I'd have to think that this also means that we won't reach on a WR with a 1st round pick. So that makes me happy.
Edit 2: Looks like a possible $18m/yr with max incentives. Better than the $20m that was being reported I suppose.
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Isn't the 21m reduced to 19m to adjust for the salary bonus the Steelers don't have to pay this week?
It just seems like the Steelers wanted a bad team to trade to, and somebody that can afford a guy who wanted lots of guaranteed money and bonus money. A trade now sucks, but at least it can be offset with the cap money they get from Bell last year. Maybe to the Raiders, this is a 30m deal, but to a contender, it would be 50+ because you actually would be paying out all those bonuses, and that's why I don't think the Rams or Packers or whatever were at the front of the line.
I'm more surprised the Raiders wouldn't give away one of their first round picks...
It just seems like the Steelers wanted a bad team to trade to, and somebody that can afford a guy who wanted lots of guaranteed money and bonus money. A trade now sucks, but at least it can be offset with the cap money they get from Bell last year. Maybe to the Raiders, this is a 30m deal, but to a contender, it would be 50+ because you actually would be paying out all those bonuses, and that's why I don't think the Rams or Packers or whatever were at the front of the line.
I'm more surprised the Raiders wouldn't give away one of their first round picks...
Antonio Brown had a little bit of slippage in his game last year. I don't think he's going to like it playing in Oakland.
Steelers and AB just fucked over the league and owners. Say goodbye to ODB Giants, he's next.
This is going to be another case of the Raiders being the winner of the trade until they're not like Martavis Bryant.
There's thought he's bait for a trade up next year if they don't go for QB early this draft. The dead cap is much more lenient.
Unlike AB, Odell is still young, he's 26 and will be 27 half way through the season, no one was giving up a first for over 30 years AB will be 31 before training camp, Giants starting price will be a first...
What are the chances the Raiders draft Marquise Brown now? I mean wouldn't that just be fitting.
If Gruden/Mayock get Bell and Kyler Murray too.
Fuck.
If Gruden/Mayock get Bell and Kyler Murray too.
Fuck.
You don't want that headcase. The minute he snaps at Carr, Carr's gonna be a blubbering mess.
Now imagine him doing that to Garoppolo.
Onions.
I'm just gonna say it. If AB has one more domestic spat and or run in with the law, he's fucked.
Gruden and Mayock better have gave him an ultimatum. Get your shit together Mr. Big Chest/Checks
Gruden and Mayock better have gave him an ultimatum. Get your shit together Mr. Big Chest/Checks
Because most of them see he's not that guy from the Super Bowl run. One team will though.
If the Cards take Bosa at #1....
....hey Giants would you like to trade your #6 pick for the Niners' #2?
Just throw in OBJ
....hey Giants would you like to trade your #6 pick for the Niners' #2?
Just throw in OBJ
It's kind of crazy when you think about it purely in terms of WR1. We traded Coop, a 3rd, and a 5th for AB and a 1st. That's a big win.
And we got the AB deal done before the market was reset. And now Jerruh needs to pay Coop in the market we set. So that's fun.
Team has too many holes to give away picks. Hoping DG feels the same.
With the Coop trade and now the AB trade, don't think I can make fun of Gruden ever again.
That is until he fucks up again.
That is until he fucks up again.