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Next playstation console is called PlayStation 5, releasing holiday 2020 and supports ray tracing at hardware level
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If Sony wants to keep alot of those previous Xbox360 gamers who switched over this gen... then Sony better have as much systems as possible in stock. No playing shortage games.
Because if those folks can't find a PS5 to buy anywhere....and there are Next Gen Xboxs available, these gamers might want to scratch their next gen itch with an old familiar friend.
Just waiting for the reveal, where they whip out a copy of silent hill 2, slap it in the ps5 and up it boots to thunderous applause.
They only confirmed PS4, haven't said a word about the other generations.
I've no idea how they can do PS3 Cell emulation, maybe it's doable for cheap after 10 years? I definitely it to play Mass Effect, and PS2 for Burnout.
Considering xbox launches with halo infinite, i dont think it will be as readily available as you think. Im personally starting with xbox next gen just cause of that.
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Just that PS4 has been confirmed for BC. If it's more than PS4 they will drop that news when the PS5 gets a proper reveal event.
Transferring the game from an external HDD should be faster than downloading 100GB of data every time you want to replay a game.Transfer the whole game from HDD to the SSD before you can play it?
Hahahaha.
Be serious. That would be hyper unintuitive to the whole fast booting games.
The reserved space on SSD makes alot more sense than having to transfer a ton of data to the SSD before you can actually play the game.
As has been stated game data is more modular on PS5 so when you boot a game even off an external it can transfer whats need for boot to the SSD reserved space, then slowly(as quickly as the HDD can go) fill it up with whats needed for the game. And from there the game can leverage the SSD quick-switching to/from main memory. So for fast travel maybe all the fast travel points are on the SSD when you fast travel thats quick switched into memory and the rest of the area is then loaded into the SSD reserved space.
It's that, or get used to deleting/downloading the game everytime. And we have a ton of digital pack rats in era.
I doubt you'd be able to play it off an external drive.
Does the word acceleration mean that it's the full raytracing feature or is it a midway implementation? In other words, is it comparable to an RTX card? (not the implementation itself as it differs from manufacturers, but comparable).
Come on, an official name, a holiday 2020 launch and hardware ray tracing is way bigger news than backwards compatibility.
Weird that they're giving so much drip feed info about most aspects. I guess it may be too late for say MS to change much at this stage.
Maybe just to get the lead on features MS has which are similar or the same and the impact is much less. Like they did with ray tracing.
All sounds super promising though so far.
Maybe just to get the lead on features MS has which are similar or the same and the impact is much less. Like they did with ray tracing.
All sounds super promising though so far.
Ok, thanks.
With how powerful it sounds like PS5 (oh, sorry, Playstation 5) is going to be, I would think they could compensate for the Cell architecture.
I have a huge backlog of PS2 and PS3 games I still need (want) to play and don't know how much longer my BC PS3 will last. So would like a replacement for it.
Yes, like an RTX card. It has dedicated hardware acceleration.
I think the best move is to expect only PS4 BC. No need to set up disappointment just in case.
With PSNow potentially going on PS5, and PS4 games confirmed being backwards compatible with PS5, that's a system launching with a heap of quality titles at the ready.
I'm expecting a October/November release window, similar to the PS4.
I'm expecting a October/November release window, similar to the PS4.
It wont be $599 dude, you can just let that one go.
the only way i can even see that happening, is if they have a $399, or $499 one available at the same time.
A stand alone $599 console is not happening.No matter what todays world is, or the possibilities.
We won't know without more detail how exactly the acceleration compares.
There also isn't a fixed definition of what 'full' acceleration means. For example, by some people's measure RTX is not 'full' acceleration, by others that's the standard of what 'full' acceleration means.
What we can say is that some or other part or whole of the ray tracing process is accelerated in hardware, but how it compares in the specific, nevermind in performance, is an open question. However, hands down, I think we can assume having 'some' specific acceleration in there is better than the none that was generally assumed prior to the first next-gen console info coming out.
And demonstrating ray tracing and BC on stage is bigger than an article. It will come in time.
Nah. they need to use a game with some impact. Orphen: Scion of Sorcery or bust
I have a bunch of ps3 games I never played or finished. If it was possible for ps3 bc I'd jizz myself. I haven't booted up my ps3 in years
Well, it's a way to say that they don't have to hide it anymore nor call it "next generation PlayStation".
You're right, of course. But I can't help it, I will still be disappointed if they confirm no BC (besides PS4).
This is huge for me, as well.
The people bemoaning the lack of show do know it will get one to reveal the final console, price, release date and show games don't they?
All this tech stuff is usually what has to get chased up after the shows to confirm anyway. Then you get numerous articles about that. Then ones to correct those because they got something wrong.
People acting like nothing will be shown at all and you'll have to read an advertisement in Playboy to find out it was already released with Knack 3. Probably the same ones that liked the pie charts and sales talk in E3 conferences.
All this tech stuff is usually what has to get chased up after the shows to confirm anyway. Then you get numerous articles about that. Then ones to correct those because they got something wrong.
People acting like nothing will be shown at all and you'll have to read an advertisement in Playboy to find out it was already released with Knack 3. Probably the same ones that liked the pie charts and sales talk in E3 conferences.
I wonder two things
1) will you be able to 'jump' straight into parts of games without any of the boot-up malarky (splash screens) etc. that normally delay immediate play. If so, that would be great. One of the reasons Dreams feels so 'next-gen' to me is the ability to quickly hop between different 'games' with no fuss, and little loading.
2) If so, the relevance of this for streaming. I think that would dovetail nicely for streaming consumers, the ability to speed up the process of actually getting into something playable, from the time you click or tap on the 'start' button from your streaming client.
Sure, talking to friends internally the overarching mandate had long been to only call it "next-gen". I'm not sure when the decision to call it the PS5 was finally made, but it wasn't an obvious decision from the start. With that said, I think it was the right one.
But wasn't DeS practically confirmed by an industry insider (the one that shall not be named on here. So it's very likely BP is working on that DeS remaster.
I'm really curious if the file system will change significantly. Hoping that it doesn't, so I can just plug in my PS4 HDD and use those games w/out the need to re-download & re-transfer titles to a new storage device.
Fair enough, and I agree I'll be disappointed, but I fully expect it to have no PS3/2/1 BC. PS3 is too complex, and games would only be emulated on a case by case basis. PS2 has a crazy house of license problems going on for each title (mostly audio / music) so that probably would be case by case as well, likely similar to PS4. PS1 probably won't have BC because Sony has shown they don't want to pay the fee per console to read compact discs, and with the trade wars continuing to escalate, I don't expect them to pay extra for this when it won't be used by a vast majority of the userbase.
PS4 BC will likely be the best we'll get, and PS Now will likely be coupled with PS+ at a premium price to allow people to play PS3 games via streaming, with a large library of PS4 games available to download. That's, in my opinion, the most likely outcome.
It is almost 100% certain.
Fair enough, and I agree I'll be disappointed, but I fully expect it to have no PS3/2/1 BC. PS3 is too complex, and games would only be emulated on a case by case basis. PS2 has a crazy house of license problems going on for each title (mostly audio / music) so that probably would be case by case as well, likely similar to PS4. PS1 probably won't have BC because Sony has shown they don't want to pay the fee per console to read compact discs, and with the trade wars continuing to escalate, I don't expect them to pay extra for this when it won't be used by a vast majority of the userbase.
PS4 BC will likely be the best we'll get, and PS Now will likely be coupled with PS+ at a premium price to allow people to play PS3 games via streaming, with a large library of PS4 games available to download. That's, in my opinion, the most likely outcome.
It is almost 100% certain.
This was brought up a few times previously by other posters, but there's good reason to believe the PS5 will be PS3 compatible.
At present, the PSNow Servers are running actual PS3 hardware in order to stream those PSnow games. It's not a viable long term solution if they intend to keep those games on the service, because continuing to manufacture cell processors and RSX's and whatever gets more expensive not less expensive over time.
A single hardware component capable of running PS3/4/5 games makes more sense financially, and the PS5 should be more than powerful enough to emulate the PS3, unlike the PS4.
I am going to remain skeptical of next gen consoles ray tracing capabilities. Nvidia Ray tracing hardware is bespoke and it took a massive part of the GPU die to implement. Hence why GPU size increased significantly for Turing verses Pascal. The performance of ray tracing on RTX cards is not that great either. I just don't see how AMD could come up with a better solution considering how much they are behind Nvidia on this front. On top of all of that, the increase in GPU die will increase cost significantly and more importantly, it will also increase power consumption of the system. I actually could see this gen actually hitting at $499. Will see what happens.
Buddy, they had a state of play just a few weeks ago. I'm not concerned for Sony. I just don't like their cockiness recently. It's gonna backfire for them.
That seems really soon. What's the game situation going to be at launch? Upgraded versions of TLOU2 or SoT? Anything new?
With regards to downloading single player and multiplayer individually, didn't Uncharted 3 provide that option and wasnt it supposed to be available on the PS4? I think I remember an ad showing it.