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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
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When was the last time era actually went down from an announcement?
I've seen suggestions like dual GPUs to power each eye in the headset, or shifting VR hardware into the base console to make the headset lighter and cheaper (the second suggestion wasn't on this board, I should add).
Ah, I see, thanks. The talk of Lockhart's existence and supposed specs made me assume otherwise.
Well if you want to have large floorstanding speakers in your home they need an amplifier to drive them.
I've got that Sony amp and a pair of Q550 speakers.
Q Series
KEF Q Series HiFi speakers bring cinema-quality sound to your home. Powerful yet balanced, stylish yet complementary, the Q Series bring detail and depth.
uk.kef.com
Of course there's stupid money speakers but the difference in sound quality between standard cheap speakers and a set of good ones are night and day.
These Amps are designed usually to support amplifying 7 speakers for 7.1 surround sound. So imagine driving all those at a loud volume. Is going to generate heat.
Also amps do passthrough of HDMI. So you plug your HDMI devices into the amp and then the amp connects to the TV.
It really could be anything from $1 alk the way to $50 which was what I capped it at. That was my opinion.
I see, I'm kinda surprised that speakers nowadays still rely no external amp.
Holy crap that looks sickWell if you want to have large floorstanding speakers in your home they need an amplifier to drive them.
I've got that Sony amp and a pair of Q550 speakers.
Q Series
KEF Q Series HiFi speakers bring cinema-quality sound to your home. Powerful yet balanced, stylish yet complementary, the Q Series bring detail and depth.
Of course there's stupid money speakers but the difference in sound quality between standard cheap speakers and a set of good ones are night and day.
These Amps are designed usually to support amplifying 7 speakers for 7.1 surround sound. So imagine driving all those at a loud volume. Is going to generate heat.
Also amps do passthrough of HDMI. So you plug your HDMI devices into the amp and then the amp connects to the TV.
Hmm,Hynix calls that big Navi leak fake news,this looks like a parody post:
Official statement on recent fake news:
"Regarding recent fake news about SK hynix's memory specifications and info sheet on AMD's next generation GPU, on which some media have reported since February 24 (PST), SK hynix hereby announces that the company has not created and distributed such specifications as well as the document asserted to be leaked by an internal source.
We ask you not to distribute or make a false report on this from now on. We can assure you that SK hynix will take every necessary measure against such media, including all available legal actions, to ensure that such wrongful/illegal activities will be stopped immediately and to protect and defend our customers, business partners, and ourselves. For the avoidance of doubt, SK hynix reserves all rights."
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cc DrKeo , anexanhume , Colbert
Official statement on recent fake news:
"Regarding recent fake news about SK hynix's memory specifications and info sheet on AMD's next generation GPU, on which some media have reported since February 24 (PST), SK hynix hereby announces that the company has not created and distributed such specifications as well as the document asserted to be leaked by an internal source.
We ask you not to distribute or make a false report on this from now on. We can assure you that SK hynix will take every necessary measure against such media, including all available legal actions, to ensure that such wrongful/illegal activities will be stopped immediately and to protect and defend our customers, business partners, and ourselves. For the avoidance of doubt, SK hynix reserves all rights."
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ALl of the offscreen camera photos I have ever seen are always real. I call bs!!!
Give them a break though, they're being as transparent as possible 🤔
PlayStationDE on Twitter
“Ihr wisst, was wir euch heute wieder verraten werden, oder? 😎🕺 https://t.co/tyHYCavUg2”
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The calculus is very difficult for an outside observer to gauge. But in terms of motivations as 'underdog' or 'incumbent/dominant', I would point out that it's the latter that motivated the largest loss-leading we've seen to date (in the PS2 -> PS3 transition). On this front I don't think we should assume the appetite for loss-leading generated by the desire to 'catch up' is greater than the desire of an incumbent to protect their business.
For the current transition, though, it's hard to speculate the relative appetites for loss leading. Nobody outside MS or Sony knows their respective numbers and projections better than they do.
PS Plus lineupPlayStationDE on Twitter
“Ihr wisst, was wir euch heute wieder verraten werden, oder? 😎🕺 https://t.co/tyHYCavUg2”
Thank god my avatar is not as bad:pWell, it's that time again folks. It's avatar time! I'm a little unsure of whether or not I should go with a theme for tonight's avatars. Jim, what do you think?
Indeed it is. But let's not dwell on that. 2Blackcats, Nickerbocker98, Toler Supreme, Logan Hardy. Please step forward. For the crimes of failing to guess the correct reveal date for the PlayStation 5, I hereby sentence you to have the following avatars.
2Blackcats, sometimes a drawing of a happy taco just goes wrong.
Nickerbocker98, ever wanted your food to be happy that you were about to eat it?
Toler Supreme, you gotta get new sock, man.....
Logan Hardy, have a nightmare, courtesy of me!
Whaddya think of that one Jim?
Ummmmmm. G'night folks.
100% agree with this.
Now Sony obviously would never want a repeat of the PS3 but to say that Sony is not willing to take a loss because they were the topdog this gen is just stupid.
PS Plus games however this is now on the verge of them trolling us and making light of our expectations....PlayStationDE on Twitter
“Ihr wisst, was wir euch heute wieder verraten werden, oder? 😎🕺 https://t.co/tyHYCavUg2”
Whoever is running that Twitter account is pretty funny. Had to laugh at those gif responses.
Late to the party: 12 tflops in a fucking console and that too on a rdna2 architecture fuck me that's awesome. Hope ps5 follows suit because that would be what i'll buy . Also klee is redeemed in my eyes. iirc klee was the first one to confirm double digit navi tflops...and here we are with the 12tf xsx. Klee only was wrong about supposedly feb event but that was before the corona virus and sony has pulled out of two major events. So , i believe feb event was moved.
Not to mention:
Just look at the whole thread.
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“@PlayStationDE Ihr könnt mir auch gerne ne PN mit den Specs und nem Bild schicken wenn ihr es den anderen nicht verraten wollt. Ich sag’s auch ganz bestimmt niemandem weiter. 🤓🤣 https://t.co/Ade9FeimwF”
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It's not a fun time right now.
And I never said anything different.
Saying the SSD will play a more notable role =/= it has no limit and that it is a "hail mary"
Whichever way you want to put it, it helps with the CPU. That was the point.
This social media guy is definitely not in a position to know about the next gen console to be feeling confident about it. That is just a questionable PR method for coasting on another hyped up event for bigger exposure for a less expected target event. Being a guy from that industry, I'm not fine with it.
It's their secret (OK not so secret) weapon. If Sony announces $399 for PS5, Lockhart will be announced at $299. If PS5 is $499, then Lockhart will be shelved.
Hype intensifiesPlayStationDE on Twitter
“Ihr wisst, was wir euch heute wieder verraten werden, oder? 😎🕺 https://t.co/tyHYCavUg2”
It should be something recurring from the wording.
Edit: PS+ games for next month.
You predicted CP2077 would get a delay......god damn,could I get this weeks lottery numbers please,lol.
I think even if the PS5 is weaker, waiting much longer to talk about it won't help them. I think the sooner people know the sooner they'll get used to the idea and instead look to the games rather than the specs in the long term up to launch.
Nah I'd still keep lockheart honestly. Consumers are smart enough now to understand two products in a release cycle. Just message that's is the perfect gamepass box and it's digital only
I'm starting to think they're waiting (or preparing) to reveal the final design along a bunch of games. After all, specs in themselves are interesting to us, gamers, forum users but they do little for the wider audience. My gut says the final box isn't ready yet and they want to show that as well.
Seems unlikely to me that Microsoft are going to wait for a price announcement from Sony before making a decision on whether or not to launch a new product. What if Sony decided not to reveal the price until September?
Why did Sony lose as much on the console? They had mistakes feom here to Pluto.
1. They gambled that Blu Ray was going to replace DVD and ensure that there would be revenues and royalties for the ages would flow. They ended up running into issues coming up with enough laser diodes. If I remember correctly, other companies had to come in and help.
2. Their initial plan was to have two cell chips handle CPU and GPU tasks. That did not pan out and they had to go to nvidia for RSX.
Sony leveraged their gaming business on a future where physical media was king, and they were willing to make a loss on their gaming business to see it come to fruition.
I think after the Xbox One launch, it's not impossible for the general audience to make a big deal about a weaker console (granted there were a lot of other highlighted mistakes that came with it). They probably don't care about the specifics. Just the idea that it's weaker.
Aside from that, what you said could be the case. They could just be waiting for the complete package to drop on the hungry fans.
The higher Sony prices their console, the more chance there us we see Lockhart.
What I was thinking about is that back then, why didn't they show PS4 at the Feb reveal? Was it because they wanted to wait with it till e3 or perhaps because the design wasn't final? (I remember shade was thrown at them for not showing the actual thing)
If the latter is the truth, that could very well be the reason they're not revealing it yet.
If the latter is the truth, that could very well be the reason they're not revealing it yet.
I think the 9TF rumours are true but the plot twist is Sony will use 2 of them for 18TF in the PS5, one for each screen in PSVR2. It literally explains everything....
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The original X1 was an absolute joke spec-wise. It was huge, I believe it even had a power brick, the controller came with AA batteries, a big portion of the games wasn't even able to hit 1080p, but 720p (a resolution we already had on the previous generation) and the best (or worst) part: it was more expensive due to a mandatory accessory nobody cared about.
I'm pretty sure less people will care if PS5 is 2/3 TF's lower and equally priced or lower. Especially when games like HZD2, GoW2 and Spider-Man 2 will inevitably hit, with PS5 patches for the first games also coming.
Some people here are really underestimating Sony. I'm even seeing terms like "MS can give the final blow by doing this and that". The final blow for what, exactly? They have never won a generation sales-wise and Sony's first party output is stronger and better than ever.The last 4 generations, Sony provided the 2 best selling home consoles ever. In the top 8, all of their consoles ranked higher than the best Xbox console, the 360. Being more powerful does absolutely nothing significant.
Wii released 1 year later than X360 and is way more weaker, yet it sold significantly more. Nintendo Switch launched 4(!!!) years later than Xbox One and is way more weaker, yet it is also outselling Xbox One.
- PlayStation 2 – 159 million*
- Nintendo DS – 154.02 million. ...
- Game Boy/Game Boy Color – 118.69 million. ...
- PlayStation 4 – 106 million.
- PlayStation – 102.4 million. ...
- Nintendo Wii – 101.63 million. ...
- PlayStation 3 – 87.5 million* ...
- Xbox 360 – 85 million* ...
The Series X is a beast of a console and MS is doing a really good thing since Phil took over with stuff like GP, but it's gonna need the games to back it all up if it wants to stand the slightest change against PS5. And I'm not even taking BC with PS4 in account.
My point wasn't that the situations around bom aren't different, clearly they are, but that Sony was willing - and in hindsight, able, even if it compromised earnings for a while - to take a large loss in order to keep their platform as far as fiscally possible, competitive and a going concern. Obviously it was an extreme situation that won't be repeated. But coming from a position of dominance only induced greater loss leading rather than discouraging it, in that case.
What I'm saying is, the flipside of being an underdog is having something major/important to protect. The PS business is now as important to Sony as Blu-ray ever was, for example. I wouldn't assume a higher motivation re. loss-leading just because of a catch-up posture. Major loss leading isn't a situation anyone wants to get into, but if I think both companies have obvious pressures to be competitive in terms of price/perf ratios and affordability even if the pressures come from different market positions.
This is the one thing the X1 got right, IMO. Hoping they don't force internal batteries on me next gen, although I fear they will.
At least my trusty V1 Elite will still work.
It's horrible for the environment. Millions of people buying disposable AA batteries.
And a small subset using rechargeable ones.
Doesn't sound like MS have spent that much to me:
Xbox Series X Will Stay As Quiet As Xbox One X, Says Phil Spencer
Here's how the Xbox Series X has a new cooling solution to keep all its high-end hardware cool without sound like a jet engine.www.gamespot.com
Wasn't Arden listed in the same set of files with 5X (can't recall the exact number) CUs?
Arden was listed seemingly as a placeholder, no testing had been done on it or is contained within the files. I do not believe it was in-house at the time of testing. We know Ariel dates back to 2017 and earlier references of Oberon late 2018. Arden simply wasn't there.
Cerny once declared to do native 4K at PS4 quality, you need 8TF.
I simply cant see a scenario where Sony are happy with a next-gen machine pushing out PS4 level graphics at 4K (architectural efficiencies aside). Just makes no sense.
I simply cant see a scenario where Sony are happy with a next-gen machine pushing out PS4 level graphics at 4K (architectural efficiencies aside). Just makes no sense.
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