It is never quite cut and dry as you seem to imply as one and not the other, it was both. As they couldn't sell only software ie Game Pass a.k.a. games a la carte Netflix style if they are not catering the hardware themselves, and with the original numbers it would be a hard pitch to sell with their console sales forecast.
At the time of that tweet, Xbox had pretty much just these games in development.
I know. And I only has to wear it for a week.
Not close to 60-80ms but that's not what they are saying.
But the X did not make the kind of impact on One sales that you are implying. It did well in it's own right, but it didn't change the One's story.
What about Ori, Minecraft dunegeons, age of empires, etc You are forgetting lots of games there. Also talks of acquisitions.
Don't know what "tripe I'm spewing" your referring too. Its seems some peoples feelings are on edge and little too sensitive. Been watching both Restera & Gaf looking for news. Is their some turf war going on between the two forums I don't know about? If so leave me out of it. Just posting what I SEE. By the way posters who want to know: This "Tommy Fisher" is inferring that positive thing are instore for the PS5 (bombs coming). But hey "III-V" you stay classy, I promise things WILL get better. 😘
The point is that this would be the release schedule for Xbox until 2020
So MS ramped up in spending hundreds of million (billions) in building out new hardware, talks of acquisitions, new game development, expansion of teams, new teams all just to go belly up and quit. nah I don't see it.
I'm not sure the timeline of what's been talked publicly matches this.
And how exactly do you know, do you have the 'non-numbers'? Power difference over PS4 Pro is a big part of their story that you say didn't change. They wouldn't just gamble an all-in for next gen if they didn't plan a play that changed their forecast this gen and see it's real effects. We don't have numbers on premium consoles alone and no metric alone can discern it's impact on their Game Pass service. It's only viable if they can also sell the hardware comparably as well as the rival console.
we've spent so long waiting for new info drops that talking about the past has become second nature LOL
There were two different main inflection points as far as I'm aware.
Yes, 1X and GamePass were already in the planning and strategy plans back in 2014-2015 stage...but it just wasn't fleshed out. Phil talked about XGP being in the planning stages or something along the lines (I don't remember the exact wording) ~3 years ago (it was in some interview back when it launched, I don't remember which).
I don't disagree with any of this, but it's not the impact of the X that made MS really double down, it's Game Pass.
You both seem to think I'm talking about changing the public perception of Xbox. I'm not, I'm talking about the business case made internally as to why games are a field worth doubling down on. That argument was based largely on Game Pass and the potential in owning the "Netflix for games", not the sales of the One X.
Couldn't agree more.
I believe they were when Nadalla took over, and when Spencer sold them on the Game Pass strategy (and when he got elevated to MS's ELT).
I think you can't logically claim one or the other if the viability of one is dependent on the other...
Your Avatar is toast, the last thing Sony would do is reveal their specs tomorrow for numerous reasons!
Eh, the real potential in Game Pass is distributing it through xCloud.
So when did MS cut funding on Xbox. What period of time. Zhuge made the tweet August 2017 which doesn't jive with what I've already discussed. Monday morning quarterbacking here. Xbox was actually ramping up in spending.
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I had the impression those two happened at around the same time.
Not announcing detailed specs ~9months from release isn't the problem. It's not like pre-orders are running out before you know what you're buying.
So obviously I wasn't in the room for these talks or anything, but my understanding was always when Nadella took over he made it clear to Spencer that he was only interested in staying in games if the business could actually be a profitable one, hence the more reserved Xbox we had for a few years. Then the Game Pass "Netflix for games" strategy was fully formed and pitched, and that business plan was what made MS open up the wallet again and go back to not worrying too much about more immediate returns.
