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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
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With next gen, if someone buys a PS4/XB1 version of a game, it'll be compatible with the PS5/XSX, so isn't it the case that every game would technically be cross buy? Or do you think publishers will have different features available to the PS5/XSX versions of a game vs. the BC version? It would seem pretty annoying for developers to have to deal with that.
It is not mandated by Microsoft. If you read their blog post it says it will be standard on all Microsoft Game Studio games and that it will be an option for third parties. CD Project Red just became the first third party studio to confirm their game will take advantage. Such a pro consumer move, I really hope more studios will jump on the bandwagon.
Bro... If VRS gets you a 10-15% boost that already closes the gap.
Silence wasn't the best word. The lack of detailed information about PS5 is what speaks for itselfs. I know they have their own plan and that there are probably multiple reasons for why they do things the way they do, but that doesn't change how I feel about it. Which was the intent of my post, to describe how I feel about Sony's approach this time around.
Ah okay that clears up my confusion with MS highlighting this. They aren't forcing developers/pubs.
He doesn't. He himself has said so repeatedly.
Only Xbox "insider" talking about the PS5 is hmmq, but just today he's been confirmed wrong regarding the XSX not using RDNA2 so...
PS5 will be 11-12TF, you guys will see..
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Turing with VRS = 10% ahead of RDNA1
Turing with VRS = 0% ahead of RDNA2
Does that help contextualize?
Mind you this is just for next gen comparisons to Turing. I'm sure next gen NVIDIA will up the ante but that's expected. For now we can safely say XBOX Series X performs on par with a 2080S.
I'll be getting both but no, I wouldn't change my primary system over 3 entire TF. Controller and ecosystem determine my #1 platform. The other one is for exclusives not available on PC.
I just dont understand why one of these insiders/leakers can't come out and say "___is more powerful than ___" straight up. Why all the vague teasing? Will they be hunted down and assassinated by Sony/MS hitmen if they say something? Or do they just like stringing people along because they enjoy knowing something others don't?
You can play an XBO game on the SX, but it unless you own the SX version of the game (either through Smart Delivery or buying it separately), you won't be playing the SX version, just the BC XBO version.
First: that margin is not just 10%, it's like 20%, a 9TF NVIDIA Turing beats a 9.7TF AMD GPU by 10%, that's 10% and another 10% from the TF difference, which is 20%.
Second: Truing is 20% ahead of RDNA1 WITHOUT VRS, with it that margin extends to 30%.
It is also the way the package files are delivered. You can't just receive the digital eboot to make it a digital version. It can work the other way around though. Digital copies can be turned into physical ones.
Any news is good news, I'm not going to discredit that. I just expected some specs when I saw "OFFICIAL SPECS".
Maybe the answer is complicated? A TF number wouldn't tell the entire story to begin with
They aren't sure. Even Digital Foundry is not sure, and they've always got people telling them stuff when it's out there in the development community. We'll know soon enough though. Sony can't keep that info bottled up for too much longer. My guess is around GDC time we know the PS5 specs.
Announcing something is a very different thing than commenting on, confirming, or hinting at something for many, many reasons.
Your entire argument was premised on Microsoft using GCN figures when they made the two times calculation. That eas something that Bosch similarly argued and then there was the conversion if I remember correctly.
Today, you have moved goalposts even when there was a statement that it was 12TF RDNA2.
About the only thing he has got wrong. Similar to how so many insiders on here were wrong about Lockhart being cancelled.
Let me state this again. If you are an insider, spill the beans or keep your mouth shut if the information is sensitive. People have their preferred platforms, and that is what they are rooting for. This vague stuff is what brings bad faith debate on this topic.
I also stated that if you have information and you widh to share, what happens? You source flrom different people before you post. Either way, we will soon know who got it wrong and who got it right.
Don't even need a TF number. Just say point blank "I'm hearing PS5 is more powerful," or vice versa.
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Would love to know -- how in the hell are Xbox not going to bother with VR with a console as powerful as that.
Forza VR would be stunning.
Forza VR would be stunning.
Don't know why people crying for.
Xbox needs the power game and well done to MS. I am happy Spencer seems to be leading them back to the glory 360 days and now for games please.
Sony can release a less powerful console as long as the gap isn't huge and price is lower they will still be market leaders.
Last gen was a cluster fuck with MS. They literally insulted their whole fanbase with the used game fiasco, forced Kinect and being less powerful but more expensive. I doubt Sony will make any of those mistakes. If the PS5 is slightly less powerful and less expensive then it's going to be hard for those nearly 100 million PS4 users to jump ship to X. MS have done well getting most the specs out the way. But games will be deciding factor and the exclusive output from them needs to be a lot better than it was this gen.
Xbox needs the power game and well done to MS. I am happy Spencer seems to be leading them back to the glory 360 days and now for games please.
Sony can release a less powerful console as long as the gap isn't huge and price is lower they will still be market leaders.
Last gen was a cluster fuck with MS. They literally insulted their whole fanbase with the used game fiasco, forced Kinect and being less powerful but more expensive. I doubt Sony will make any of those mistakes. If the PS5 is slightly less powerful and less expensive then it's going to be hard for those nearly 100 million PS4 users to jump ship to X. MS have done well getting most the specs out the way. But games will be deciding factor and the exclusive output from them needs to be a lot better than it was this gen.
I only want to add that you will play the native Xbox One S/X) version depending on your console, not a "BC" version.
So you can't comment or hint at which one you believe to be more powerful?
Well it is kind of Truth for current gen. There is nothing on Xbox that compares to gow , horizon and death Stranding.
But this is more about base consoles diff than the upgrade models.
Everything that is made for x needs to run on base model.
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"BC" version just means not the SX version if there is one and you don't own it for one reason or another.
I see.
I see. So he is a legitimate insider, just for MS. He seems convinced Sony was blind sided by these specs.
Love it!
Now how about getting Carl over there at MS to get my HD DVD add on working this gen! Sincerely, your twitter friend :)
But not the same as Microsoft's they patented their own method
Oh thanks. Maybe next time people will look at IP addresses instead of going with their gut when they think there's an alt account. Enjoy my post.
No, not really. It does not make much sense at all!
We actually do not know at all how RDNA 2 stacks up to Turing 12nm. Especially regarding the ever so important RT performance!
Now to address your claim, developing for modern hardware is not the same as, say, PS2 or Sega Saturn, where you have to design your code toward specific hardware. Nowadays game developers works on much higher level of abstraction and game engines are designed to scale, otherwise it's dead on arrival since game engine are huge software projects and an engine with no reusability is a hug waste of effort for the team.
Why do Santa Monica Studio and Naughty Dog games look so good on supposedly weak hardware? It comes down to the simply fact that they have some of the industry's most talented artists, designers and engineers. For short, they are really good at what they do.
So yeah
I know, what im saying is that they deserve it, a bang up job with providing us with good talking points to discuss rather than being radio silent and cancelling so many events this year like their competitor, MS deserves a pat on the back for their next gen plan, whatever their doing next, i'm all on board.
Well if you know something for a fact, you can't really "guess" it.
Ask any journalist in any field how much easier it is to find someone that will simply confirm information you already have vs. telling you something you don't already know.
Speaking of, I recently had a guy ask me at the store I work at if the Xbox One X plays HD DVDs, haha. I hadn't heard that format in literally over ten years.
If you buy a game that is released on any Xbox One platform and the Series X (and maybe Lockhart), the game delivered to you is the game native to the platform depending on the platform you own (starting with Halo Infinite for 1st party).
It only is "BC" if you play a game on the Series X or Lockhart that is not patched up to the Series X/Lockhart.
Shit changes. The Xbox division was in a very precarious position for a while there."Insiders"
but Reiner and Klee did just that and they were harassed into shutting up.
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