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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
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Oh, the Pro version's CB implementation in RDR2 is pretty bad, it's worse than HZD's CB rendering. Even base PS4's native 1080p image quality looks noticeably sharper than 2160cb in RDR2.
I mean if they have 1 system that is cheaper and 1 system that is more powerful then his comment would not be incorrect
I am not saying who is right and who is wrong here, but you can get the same model cars with the same engines with different horse powers..
Both sides need to calm down until sony shows their hand.
Hey, Alex. It's been 3 hours already. Where's the video with the three of you talking about this? :P
This is exactly how I remembered it. As always DF is doing a great job putting things into context. Can't wait for the video where Richard is showing off some of the GPU comparisons with the new specs in mind (like he did just recently).
....and the cost? With all the talk of Sony being concerned with price the PS5 needs to be more powerful or spec matched with the Series X to justify something greater than $500 IMHO.
good thing they have more than $100 to play with this gen because they no longer have to include a $75 kinect with each console at launch and are willing to take a loss this gen. of course its more impressive than the xox in 2017, that was a made for profit mid gen refresh. these new consoles will be sold for a loss now that they are getting millions of online subs every month and 30% of digital revenue from 50-60% of all games sold. that was not the case last gen.
they were both going to push each other on specs this time around. which meant taking a loss. we were always going to get far better specs from last gen. sub 10 tflops was a joke.
this. it was all supposed to be fun and games but soon predicting double digit tflops became something akin to a political stance. lines were drawn and people were mocked as inferiors. also, klee was driven out over this shit.
Let me get this straight, MS announces at 9AM EST this morning and you think the silence in the last 4 hours speaks for itself? Unless the communication plan was to have the announcement ready to go when MS announces this is senseless. What did Microsoft's silence up to this morning speak to?
These are large corporations, not gas stations competing across the street.
Really impressive. I'm getting a PS5 but seriously if Microsoft can do this console with the Live/Gamepass monthly subscription for £30 a month 2 year contract or less I would absolutely get this at launch. Gamepass would give me probably every game on the system I'd want to play. If the Flight Sim game is out within the first year then I'm on that train.
Yea, I don't expect Sony to match MS in the categories of HW MS publicly published.
Sony's saving grace now lies with pricing, games and service.
Clearly not now it isn't, but at the time maybe it was based on info that was available.
lol PS fans are just sitting here waiting for news while other people are running around saying everything from PS5 is 9TFs to Sony can't match MS power and money wise to everything in between. This forum has been the equivalent of Squidward looking outside his window while Patrick and Spongebob play outside.
If anything this could mean that Sony will reveal the specs soon as well. But they are sticking to their plans. Sony is not going to change their schedule based off what Microsoft is doing.
What were the companies gunning for when they designed the consoles? If you looked at the mid gen refresh, Sony was looking for something that could hit $400 and do something that mimicked 4K. Microsoft was looking to hit native 4K, but that came at a cost.
It all depends on what tje design goals are, what bets are being made, and what is the target price that a company is looking at.
Wonder if we'll get what's after the decimal point at gdc...
There is a budget and where that budget gets spent changes the end result. The Xbox isn't cheap to make and a lot of the money went into the chip itself. Sony is spending some of their budget on things like new controller features etc. They have different priorities it doesn't mean one or the other fucked up.
There is a budget and where that budget gets spent changes the end result. The Xbox isn't cheap to make and a lot of the money went into the chip itself. Sony is spending some of their budget on things like new controller features etc. They have different priorities it doesn't mean one or the other fucked up.
Really enjoying the drip feed of Xbox Series X news. Confirmation that at least one major publisher plans to allow cross-buy across generations is also awesome news.
I have no doubts that PS5 is going to be a well engineered machine. But as far as marketing strategy, if they were more powerful than 12 TF, they would have nothing to lose and everything to gain by announcing that ASAP. Xbox drip feed of news, especially on power, would lose impact if we had confirmation PS5 is 13 TF for example.
I have no doubts that PS5 is going to be a well engineered machine. But as far as marketing strategy, if they were more powerful than 12 TF, they would have nothing to lose and everything to gain by announcing that ASAP. Xbox drip feed of news, especially on power, would lose impact if we had confirmation PS5 is 13 TF for example.
This is December 29th pretty sure specs were already set in stone.
The difference is that the PS4 Pro was already on the market. Starting that they had the more powerful system in the One X was just a factual statement at that point. Nobody knows what the PS5 looks like GPU wise yet. You don't go around crowing about how much better your system is when the competition hasn't put out any numbers yet!
I am pretty sure than entire GPU architectures dont change in 2 months.
EDIT: wait was that sarcastic.
Lol, when the cat is away, the mice will play.
I want the sony specs so that threads can be separated. It is time
Yup, at this point there is no need keeping TF numbers a secret. Andnowallf a sudden sony's silence on specs seems purposeful.
The logical conclusion is that they are not as powerful as the XSX, hence why they aren't talking about it.
Its one thing to not talk about any specs, its another thing to talk about some and leave some out.
The logical conclusion is that they are not as powerful as the XSX, hence why they aren't talking about it.
Its one thing to not talk about any specs, its another thing to talk about some and leave some out.
I'm fairly certain that Sony will aim at a lower priced but slower console this time around. MS has Lockhart for the budget minded market, Sony doesn't so they really can't put PS5 above XSX if they want to sell this thing in any quantities.
It will be interesting for sure but tbh this is how things were since XBX launch really and I'm expecting the gap between PS5 and XSX to be smaller than it is between Pro and XBX.
I do wonder if Sony would be better off with two PS5 SKUs as well, though.
we have seen GPUs and CPUs take well over 400mm2 in consoles before. Xbox 360 was 438mm2 for the discrete cpu, gpu and edram. ps2 was 519mm2 for both the cpu and gpu. ps3 was 493mm2.
i remember posting this many many times.
ps3 routintely hit over 200w during gameplay.
this was all discussed over and over again. just because MS came up with a big design doesnt mean that was a miracle of engineering or something no one couldve foreseen. we have been saying wide and slow for over a year now. its not rocket science, just some users refusing to look past their blindspots.
The PS4 Pro was not on the market .
When MS said they had the most powerful console at E3 time the PS4 Pro was not even official announce .
And it's not like a software deposit per architecture is something older than ARPANET.
That thing is just marketed to side all their consoles offering, in line with their cross-gen publishing strategy.
Reading team realistic's predictions now is pure comedy.
Weren't the very original Anaconda specs 12tf?
Anything is possible; neither product is available for pre-order.. that's really the only "deadline" anyone has.
Sony could be preparing a hype killing announcement for right near pre-order availability.. or they could be being quiet hoping to wow people with actual game footage but not specs.
Or they are sticking to their schedule, your conclusion is far from logical.
Yeah will be interesting to see what Sony does with this.
Making 2 SKU's really would be some last minute panicking on Sony's part and I cant see them doing that.
at this point, i almost want it 9.2 tflops to be true because at least that would make some sense out of this bizarre marketing strategy by Sony.
if they were more powerful like the insiders suggested, they would've/should've been screaming it at the top of their lungs like MS has been.
The last time they gave a us new info was last year Oct .
Since then they have not talk about anything new other than showing off a logo.
So what are they leaving out when MS was only clear about there specs today and they still some info missing ?
Now I expect the PS5 to be less powerful than the Series X but also quite significantly cheaper, like at least 100$.
Sitting in the middle of Series S and X isn't that bad of a place to market, best bang for your buck and all that.
PS4 Pro had been on the market for a year when the One X launched. It had been out for over 6 months when they revealed the specs of the One X around E3 2017
How would CDPR manage that without something in place from Sony?
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