"Game tester on 4chan" instead of "someone on 4chan saying he is a game tester" isn't a good start for me...
"Game tester on 4chan" instead of "someone on 4chan saying he is a game tester" isn't a good start for me...
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“Game tester on 4chan says these are the latest PS5 and Xbox Series X specs:”twitter.com
If it is permanent non-upgradeable storage I see 1 TB, if it is user expandable, I can see 500 GB.Never, in a million years will the PS5 have a 500gb storage device.
That's 3 Modern Warfares (including OS updates) for comparison.
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“Game tester on 4chan says these are the latest PS5 and Xbox Series X specs:”twitter.com
Hunter 🎮 on Twitter
“Game tester on 4chan says these are the latest PS5 and Xbox Series X specs:”twitter.com
This is a logical take. I hope, at this point, everyone can really agree with this.The literal meaning of official public statements is always a better bet than an indirect source, so it's 100% clear the PS5 has hardware support for ray tracing. Things get more complicated when an official statement is intentionally vague, but that's not the case here. Sure, there's a lot we don't know about the specific hardware acceleration implementation and how it will impact games but that's true for both consoles.
On the other hand, though, we also have people who take the GitHub leak as proof that the chip being tested can't be representative of the PS5's final APU due to the lack of ray tracing results. In practice, these documents were never intended to be consumer-facing. They merely reflect that whatever identifier the test suite uses to determine if it has ray tracing support is absent. That doesn't mean the hardware isn't capable of it, just that the specific test doesn't find it - possibly because the support is heavily customized or otherwise incompatible with the standard AMD testing for the feature.
I still wouldn't claim to know one way or another how much of what's in that information dump provides useful insight, but layperson attempts to interpret it are going to come up with a lot of inaccurate conclusions.
the ram bandwidth differences makes no sense unless if for some reason the additional DDR4 bandwidth is counted on xbox while it isnt counted on PS5.Hunter 🎮 on Twitter
“Game tester on 4chan says these are the latest PS5 and Xbox Series X specs:”twitter.com
According to bloomberg, if sony splurged 4x the cost on ps5's cooling, they'd be paying as much as $3-4. I'd think it's safe to assume the lower end part absorbs many of the costs associated with design and manufacturing so performance vs price wouldn't be a linear increase.Interesting note that they do independently bolster the expensive cooling solution claim:
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The guy fumbled at the SSD size.
Interesting take - you don't think they have seen the dev kit in more detail than we have? Hrm. That is possible because he does say that he can talk about it more during the tear down. So maybe he doesn't know after all and we were simply misinterpreting his words?As for GN, I think it's more to do with them knowing more of the workings at the 2 big cooling solution MFRs in china. They know how much coolers and cooling supplies cost wholesale and at various scales, so they could know what it would take and how much it would cost to cool a console.
I'd like to go back to their xbox one x tear down video. I would assume they mentioned the VC and costs associate with it.
A game tester that is privy to the specs of both machines...Yep, sounds credible to me!
Hopefully that is close to reality but 500gb is about 4.5 games installed.
Albert Penello is very very wrong if he believes Windows Central is not definitive proof of controlled leaks..
SPENSHIDA!What if it's a fusion of Yoshida and Spencer - created by a horrifying accident while visiting AMD's secret superconductor lab at the same time. Both technically test games before release, so they could call themself (itself?!) that to throw off the Sony ninjas that try to block all outside communication from the torture chamber/official tweet room they're kept.
I hope that ntkrnl story gets out some day.What I said was in my time at Xbox, I was never aware of, nor did I personally participate in, any 'controlled leaks'. I never said they didn't happen, but I think people assume this is some sort of standard procedure in the industry. I don't think it is. I didn't say it never happened but I'd be pretty confident it happens a lot less than people think.
Probably inspired by the comments we've been hearing about them being close in performance/no clear power advantage between both from Jason, etc. But yeah, as made up as any pastebin in this case.I love how these guys always try to make fake specs look "balanced":
- Xbox has better CPU clocks, but... PS5 has a better GPU
- PS5 has more RAM, but... Xbox has more bandwidth
- Xbox has a bigger SSD capacity, but... PS5 has faster SSD speed
Interesting take - you don't think they have seen the dev kit in more detail than we have? Hrm. That is possible because he does say that he can talk about it more during the tear down. So maybe he doesn't know after all and we were simply misinterpreting his words?
If you don't mind me asking - pointing back a bit to the Bloomberg story - if there became some sort of unexpected rise in price for RAM component, how would Sony or MS handle this? Wouldn't they have some sort of fixed price purchasing contract in place that was already agreed upon? ThanksWhat I said was in my time at Xbox, I was never aware of, nor did I personally participate in, any 'controlled leaks'. I never said they didn't happen, but I think people assume this is some sort of standard procedure in the industry. I don't think it is. I didn't say it never happened but I'd be pretty confident it happens a lot less than people think.
What if it's a fusion of Yoshida and Spencer - created by a horrifying accident while visiting AMD's secret superconductor lab at the same time. Both technically test games before release, so they could call themself (itself?!) that to throw off the Sony ninjas that try to block all outside communication from the torture chamber/official tweet room they're kept.
If you don't mind me asking - pointing back a bit to the Bloomberg story - if there became some sort of unexpected rise in price for RAM component, how would Sony or MS handle this? Wouldn't they have some sort of fixed price purchasing contract in place that was already agreed upon? Thanks
It happened at Xbox One launch with the Hynix fire, and in that case you just eat it. As for contracts, it depends on why there is a shortage.
It's a good call out. Sony usually does a good job locking in component prices over long periods of time, which is something I hadn't thought about until you brought it up.
I'd say the bigger issue is over application. They tend to have gobs of paste which just creates a higher resistance path to the heatsink.
If the OS works the same as ps4, you wouldn't have enough free space to update those 3 MWs.Never, in a million years will the PS5 have a 500gb storage device.
That's 3 Modern Warfares (including OS updates) for comparison.
I can vouch for this statement, GN is top notch and not some cheap clickbaity site.You're off your rocker if you think GN is clickbait. GN painstakingly provides disclosure statements, avoids sensationalism, is selective with their advertisers, and outright refuses to run sponsored content or reviews. He only addressed specifically because another news outlet ran the story. It wasn't in the title or even the show notes.
I assume they use a non-conductive paste for that reason.Only issue I could see with too much is sony using a conductive TIM that leaks out to the smds and potentially shorts things out.
I would have expected at least Darjeeling based on where you come from :)
Probably the main one, yup.I assume they use a non-conductive paste for that reason.
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Just watched the video and yeah, his teardown mention tells me the cost is pretty specific to PS5 and what sony decided to use rather than GN knowledge of the industry.Interesting take - you don't think they have seen the dev kit in more detail than we have? Hrm. That is possible because he does say that he can talk about it more during the tear down. So maybe he doesn't know after all and we were simply misinterpreting his words?
That was my initial take as well. This is a really interesting datapoint.Just watched the video and yeah, his teardown mention tells me the cost is pretty specific to PS5 and what sony decided to use rather than GN knowledge of the industry.
Liquid cooling confirmed.That was my initial take as well. This is a really interesting datapoint.
My brain automatically thought back to CES and the IceGiant ThermoSiphon they introduced.That was my initial take as well. This is a really interesting datapoint.
What does that cost? Three or four bucks I guess.
Cerny has stated before games will be smaller due to how data is accessed on the drive.Never, in a million years will the PS5 have a 500gb storage device.
That's 3 Modern Warfares (including OS updates) for comparison.
Maybe they're using a thermosiphon! Not really, but it's cool (heh) tech.That was my initial take as well. This is a really interesting datapoint.
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“Game tester on 4chan says these are the latest PS5 and Xbox Series X specs:”twitter.com
People are putting credence in the GitHub leaks because it at least looks legit, nothing else.What's this I'm reading Sony is limited when it comes to the total of CU's they can have is because of how they are doing their backwards compatibly? Is this what the thinking is right now? Is this the reason why people are putting credence in the Github leaks? It would be pretty crazy if this was true. Hopefully it's not.
People are putting credence in the GitHub leaks because it at least looks legit, nothing else.
I trust Richard over at DF and he said he did his own independent verification of the GitHub leak. That's the only reason I haven't dismissed.People are putting credence in the GitHub leaks because it at least looks legit, nothing else.
Doesn't add up. They're probably using tap water, so I'd say under a dollar.