Okay cool! "a" leader. My mistake.This is where Shawn is situated in the leadership chart throughout this entire generation - all the way to the point that he was forced out.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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A leader that does not the influence to take the organisation in a direction that he wants as he pleases - because he is equal in position to at least 5-6 other leaders that handle other areas of the SIE business, and answers to the current president Jim Ryan and vice-president John Kodera.
It's entirely possible Shawn was pushed out because he disagreed with Jim's decisions and where Jim wants to take the direction of the business. But the leader that dictates the current direction of SIE is still the same person aka Jim Ryan - and that part hasn't changed.
So the x2 GPU faster than the One X could mean 12TF even if this is nearer of x2,5 than x2 faster with RDNA conversion ?
Well I think I will keep my R9 280X until the end and switch on console. Thanks to vouchers, I will probably be able to buy next gen at 150€ instead of 499€. Best deal ever !
Well I think I will keep my R9 280X until the end and switch on console. Thanks to vouchers, I will probably be able to buy next gen at 150€ instead of 499€. Best deal ever !
But what does that have to do with the point I was making? Which was that unless Cerny was lying, the PS5 SSD will be at least a bit more than 3.5GB/s?
Nobody is saying that his exact words should be taken literally post the release of the newer SSDs, but rather in context of the date.
He the leader of a branch of PS, don't be so smart. Have a good day.
You asked a question about the likelihood of something, I replied by saying it's unlikely because his position within the company isn't that high that he can command the ability to move the organisation at the level - and shared an org chart to show that.
p.s. I humbly disagree.
Its possible.
Final active count would be 60. Sony is probably 60 total. 56 active. 5800xt is probably 60 total as well.
I think baring Kratos, it is OK. Baldur skin is really great in the pic I posted.
Yeah sorry, I misread.
Do we know if MS and Sony pay for wafers or per usable chip? They could well go for full chips (64, if is this) from wafers and higher(tighter?) margin on the X knowing they'd recoup elsewhere on Lockhart.
I have a sneaking suspicion the dev kit spec leak is no accurate. It came out when dev kits weren't out for XSX (according to dev kit timing from TW) and the 64 is too wide.
Ana Dev kits have been out for a long time, more than a year, it's just not that everyone had them like they do now.
also updated dev kits went out in late October or early November.
No problem.
Kratos's skin is supposed to be permanently covered in ash, anyway - shouldn't it look dry?
Isn't this precisely why Kleegamefan (edit: hmqgg) said Anaconda matches Dante? Scorpio already matched its dev kit WRT frequency IIRC. It's the CUs that differed as you point out.
IMO, I strongly suspect at least early Anaconda parts that fail binning will be downgraded to Lockhart die.
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For PS5 at least, they probably overclocked a 2Ghz smaller GPU to try to match a larger GPU with lower clocks that the final console may have, 2Ghz in a Console sounds too much indeed, or Sony are aiming for high clocks to reduce costs, who knows.
I guess that's one interpretation lol.
Multiple reasons:
They will be able to release a console at 399 dollars because Sony will lose more money per consoles at launch than on PS4 but without reaching crazyness like PS3 or PS2(188 dollars lose per console at launch).
- PS5 will be backward compatible with at least PS4 and maybe more.
- The price will be 399$.
- Sony will release first party PS5 exclusive game from day one.
- Sony will have a much better first three years for first party games than for PS4.
Sony financial are much better.
Funny fact May 2018 they gave a forecast for the next three fiscal years until 31 march 2021. They underestimate profit and revenue for FY 18/19.
The forecast shows some profit decline because of PS5 but I suppose the two first years even taking a bigger losses on hardware, Sony will not loss money.
And last hint, the Sony CFO told to shareholder and investor, they are aware hardware price is important but they will pay attention to not lose too much money on hardware side. This not PR talk but the CFO talking in an earning call and when Jim Ryan(PS CEO) told the transition will go as faster than ever same this is not PR talk.
Wanted to leave this here. Good thoughts on PS5 pricing.
For me, what Cerny said is that the SSD in the console take full advantage of the patent we saw. If some forgot or missed it :
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps...nd-sonys-ssd-customisations-technical.118587/
You can see in the key point what Cerny described.
And remember this patent target 10 Gb/s of data already decoded / decompressed. So this can be way more than 2x speed differences.
Missed that ! At least it explained his weird color. Thanks !
I meant the XBS dev kit leak.
I'm on team 40 CU for PS5 at 2ghz is the target
Yes, I was speaking on Anaconda, not PS5.
also, PS5 will be on Big Navi, just like XSX, Gen 1has poor thermals at those clocks.
HBCC (as in GPU virtual memory) has nothing to do with HBM and RDNA has it for sure albeit it's not exposed in the driver for a user to control as it was on Vega. All modern GPUs have virtual memory support.
I think people are too quick to assume speed == max bandwidth. It could also mean low access times. For games that have data spread over thousands of smaller files, low access times would make a way bigger difference than raw bandwidth.
Yep it make no sense for PS5 to be 40CU at 2ghz
It would be cheaper just to go 52CU at 1.6 or something like that .
Talking about cost saving don't mean much when the thermals so high at 40CU.
IF 5800XT is 60 CU, 5800 is 54CU and not 56
And at least one console will have 54CU
54CU at 1750 MHz (a reasonable frequency for a 7nm RDNA console GPU in a tower design) is 12TF
yeah, wont be surprised if Gonzalo is a devkit for the devkit than what we get in the final version. My money is on Flute.
1800 + freq just doesnt make sense unless it's vastly different from the 5700xt's gen1 rdna, both will have more than 40cu's.
This sounds the feasible way
The best improvement in terms of tdp we can get from one improvement in node is 15-20%(at best)
From performance point ~10%
Yep it very possible the dev kits were clock so high to get near the final specs .
I've given it twice. You said twice as fast wouldn't make a difference. That's downplaying.
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Freya, Magni, and Modi looked like they had dry skin too
Agree on the model sculpting. I was really impressed by mama, which is the charcter with less clothes that I encounter ATM :
And I think is skin isn't that bad here.
Maybe it is the light, I don't know. But it is way too plastic to my taste. Look at his arms here :
Look at GoW skin rendering :
Main difference is texturing, and GoW can get away with using more and higher resolution textures because it's a much more linear game. Skin shaders (sans textures) for DS and HZD are pretty good - dark skin shaders, in special, are easily the best I've ever seen.
EDIT: As an aside, I hope Jeremy Davies will get more voice acting roles in games. Dude's a great actor and was extremely enjoyable as Baldr.
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Phil Spencer said that the XSX I/O was 40 times the Xbox One
Xbox Series X Specs: Twice As Powerful As Xbox One X
Since the average 5400rpm drive (as was in the Xbox One), has throughput of 100mbps, this says, to me, that the SSD in the XSX has transfer rates of roughly 4gb/s, which means PCIE 4, as PCIE 3 caps out at 3.5 gb/s for SSDs. Thoughts?
Xbox Series X Specs: Twice As Powerful As Xbox One X
Since the average 5400rpm drive (as was in the Xbox One), has throughput of 100mbps, this says, to me, that the SSD in the XSX has transfer rates of roughly 4gb/s, which means PCIE 4, as PCIE 3 caps out at 3.5 gb/s for SSDs. Thoughts?
The other problem is Komachi hasnt reported on anything Gonzalo or Flute related after.... the fiasco.
I doubt he would even mention Sparkman if he knew it was probably Lockhart from the get go.
It is the throughput in a PC. I think in the two consoles the inerface limited the throughput to 50 MB/s.
I thought the best models were Die-Hardman, Deadman, Cliff, and Mama personally. Cliff's model is seriously good.
To my knowledge, hmqgg has never mentioned sparkman, only Arden and Argalus.
Flutter, do you have a link to the "latest" Flute rumors... is it just what Komachi said about that he expected it was PS5?
It has to be, why release something like this at the end of the generation?
Or it's to make the DS4 compatible with PS5 since DS5 might have those buttons .
Only 2 more months to find out.
You're thinking sequential read, if he's talking random reads for smaller blocks at higher queue depth you don't need PCIe4 to be 40 times faster than a 5400rpm hard drive.
So you're saying that the DS5 might have a screen after all eh? 🧐
This scenario would make me very happy. Make it so Sony.
Makes sense. This came totally out of left field, lol.
Someone in the thread about it said which leak mentioned the DS5 having a screen.
Rampant speculation time?
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