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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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Just want to quote this post since I love it and got your back 100%.
If they have separate parts? Yes we can use. And even a Apu can't fit a cpu of 399+ a gpu of 399 for 100-150
Tried reading some twitter feeds to see if there's info on next gen consoles, especially PS5
....boy is it bad. It's like wading through a pool of LSD laced shit.
....boy is it bad. It's like wading through a pool of LSD laced shit.
We have enough system power to bring Scalebound back now. Right??? Right! Dragon power.
I have serious doubts about the financial viability of small scale HBM but I'm willing to be proven wrong. PS5 will be great and may even be a little more powerful than the SX but HBM may be a folly to chase right now. Who knows...
I have serious doubts about the financial viability of small scale HBM but I'm willing to be proven wrong. PS5 will be great and may even be a little more powerful than the SX but HBM may be a folly to chase right now. Who knows...
creaking along
I'm so old I remember when the South Park movie had a joke about MS PR numbers.
mm, that said, i remember playground fights about spectrum vs c64 vs bbc b, but that wasn't so much power, as just general awesomeness
He was along with Herman because of Death Stranding getting an award...
It still amaze me that after all we've known about the XSX, some are still refusing their crow.
Anyway...
I've not read any convincing argument as to why this would be a good idea. HBM only makes sense if it's WAY faster than GDDR. A set up where they end up with similar speed but have a lot less memory of said speed...? Nah, I don't see it happening.
Anyway...
I really don't get that rumor at all. I don't think HBM is as off the table as the peeps who've been wrong all the time think... But why bother if, according to the rumor, the result isn't that far off from what they'd probably get with GDDR6, and it's only 8 gigs out of TWENTY FOUR GIGABYTES!
I've not read any convincing argument as to why this would be a good idea. HBM only makes sense if it's WAY faster than GDDR. A set up where they end up with similar speed but have a lot less memory of said speed...? Nah, I don't see it happening.
Some already mentioned it, but have you missed the Reiner tweets? The meltdowns in the OT at the time have been the most intense we've had all year.
Do you think a 2080 Ti costs Nvidia a thousand bucks to make?
When you can use only 256 MB of texture with virtual texturing it makes sense... And it makes even more sense with a very fast SSD.
This sums it up rather well.
Yes, both can't be compared. Hellblade was a cinematic running at probably 30fps and godfall (the gif) was gameplay running at what looked like 60fps. I have being totally indifferent to custcenes since a long time ago. And history tells me that cutscenes in a trailer mean nothing about the game.
A real-time cutscene running most likely on a 2080ti, like most probably godfall anyways. But at least they showed 60fps gameplay.
Here is an explanation for the trailer from an interview with Phil:
So can you tell me what is the purpose of specifying TFlops if it's useless and means nothing? Are RX580 and 5700XT exactly same architecture with no improvements? I pointed you to two examples of how benching games is all over the place too and depend on game engine etc.
Well if they were comparing performance why wouldn't they include RT since it is physically part of GPU and is a benefit?
Can you explain why for xbox one x they said that it's 4x more powerful than xbox one? Because if you account for everything it's more than 5 times.
I think that their past relevant remarks are more important than some random numbers we can come up with to conclude what they really meant.
Haaaa, the Gameinformer editor, now I remember yes, first I believed you were speaking about a forum member and a debate I would have missed. But I would differenciate that from the internal forum aggressiveness between members, it's specifically what I was thinking about and some isolated posts here testify in the same way.
One thing this thread has made clear is that Sony definitely needs to start to drop some controlled leaks. The lack of information makes everyone think that somehow their hardware will be worse for no reason.
A year ago, some said the PS5 would hardly have an SSD because it would be too expensive. Not long after, everyone claimed that its ray tracing wasn't hardware based either. It won't be long before some insider or pastebin shows up saying that Sony has decided to rollback its plans and will now use a updateded version of the Jaguar CPU, and a lot of people will believe.
A year ago, some said the PS5 would hardly have an SSD because it would be too expensive. Not long after, everyone claimed that its ray tracing wasn't hardware based either. It won't be long before some insider or pastebin shows up saying that Sony has decided to rollback its plans and will now use a updateded version of the Jaguar CPU, and a lot of people will believe.
Every time one rumor emerges saying either XsX or PS5 is strong another seems to pop from know where saying the other is slightly better.
this Fanboy drama is making this thread unreadable.
I only leak I believe is the one Matt said which was there was a 10% difference between these two and that is nothing serious.
this Fanboy drama is making this thread unreadable.
I only leak I believe is the one Matt said which was there was a 10% difference between these two and that is nothing serious.
The second wired article was specifically to address the scuttlebutt surrounding the first one. Not sure what else they can do. They're going to reveal in just a few months anyway.
Lol I'm hoping this backfires on them ala 2013
Edit: Nothing personal, just enjoy people eating their words.
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Thanks for all the kind words on the OP! 😃
In the video he said that these aren't confirmed stats and that they could just be talking about the architectural improvements.
From the video
In the video he said that these aren't confirmed stats and that they could just be talking about the architectural improvements.
From the video
I think his prediction for memory bandwidth is wrong I think they will have a take 16 1gbps or 18 Gbps GDDR6. And he is probably wrong for the HDD too.
And why should they care in those cases? In fact, those examples are even a positive for them. It is easier to make people excited when they've lower expectations. They'll reveal the truth anyways, so it doesn't matter if 1 year before launch someone thinks the PS5 will be a 6TF machine or anything like that.
It would be only bad if it is the other way around: everyone expects a 10TF+ machine because of rumours and they are releasing a 8TF thing. In that case they should maybe really use a tactic like that to get people back to reality. ;)
The MHz on clock speed shows attention to detail ain't his strong suit.
Please, they dont care about us freaking out/flaming them about this.
So close to reveal anyway, and if there's any PR to be done, it's AFTER it (good or bad)
Can we refrain from spreading console war Twitter fanboy shit out of this thread already infected by this shit?
If Series X is not 12TF NAVI, then that also means that Lockhart is likely not 4TF NAVI. Lower than 4TF for Lockhart, a system that is supposed to play next gen games at 1080p -1440p does not seem likely. This to me is the big evidence pointing toward Series X being 12TF NAVI.
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At least 60CUs at 1575MHz is a lot more reasonable than 90% of the figures that get thrown around in here.
It's pretty clear the posters doing this. The thread reads better without them.
Thats a good point, 4TF GCN is PS4 Pro level. i wonder if we will get more leaks of Lockhart soon or even a confirmation finally.
Oof. 2.5ghz Jaguar is only capable driving 8TF GPU.
If PS5 was a $399 Jaguar 8TF console Era would have ended. Thank God it's not that timeline.
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