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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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So we've gone from possibly 12-13tf down to possibly 9? Is that the current rumor? Or just speculation?
Alternatively, a concerted effort based on fans attempting to underline numbers, because they point to an outcome deemed desirable.
Both sides are quilty of the same.
I just hope, that if the information turns out to not portray the final product, or if the competitor turns out to be around the same ballpark in RDNA flops, there'll be admittances of being wrong, apologies to insiders who were right after all, and call-outs on execs misleading, like it was with the supposed lack of hardware RT on PS5.
Advances in tech and production costs maybe? Or maybe MS is going to eat a larger loss on Lockhart and make up for it with Anaconda?
But yeah, I think it's just speculation right now on what the possible price of Lockhart would be.
12-13 for PS5 down to 9 and that's now been debunked as no longer applicable so we're free to return to 12-13 TF
Thus the question it was rumored that it was supposed to be in RDNA1 but was delayed so I'm just wondering if it was added onto RDNA1 on the consoles as they had more time to bake so to speak.
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
Just want to calibrate expectations based on last gen. When the PS4 / XB1 launched the top of the line AMD gpu was the 290x at ~5.6 teraflops. XB1 was 23.3% of that PS4 was 32.9% of that. When the PS5 / Xsx launches, I expect the top of the line AMD GPU to be 16.4 TF. This time around we're...
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Correction Microsoft was more money with less power with trying to release system with kinect non operational camera right after crazy us whistleblower talking sbout government spying on citizens many factors went into having Microsoft dig themselves out of a hole. Wierd one wasnt games as they had alot of launch exclusives.
it will be a matter of time before it's going crazy again....xD
pepole never learn at all
I'm just happy for my man AegonSnake ... almost had to pour one out for my man's 14 TFLOPS dreams. #LongLiveTheDream
IMO both Sony and MS will be using custom RDNA and will be very similar in power and features.
I believe Sony was just ahead in distributing devkit. MS was slightly behind Sony but going according to their own schedule. The whole MS was late in distributing devkit because they want to surprise Sony either with RDNA 2 or something thing else always seemed unrealistic.
Even if Sony reveals rue specs during PS Meeting and they are beyond expectations, and then next-gen trailers and demos follows, people will still be crazy and some will find a way to doubt all of those like always. XD
This next-gen effect and trend and it won't change. Now it became even stronger.
Perfect. You've got my vote come poll time!
I think it's safe to say I could enjoy a great game on anything in the plausible range for the coming generation. For that matter, one of the games I'm most excited about for next year is coming on a 1TF system. Sure, there's something to be said for raw potential but at the end of the day I trust both Microsoft and Sony will put together solid systems within similar technical and economic constraints. They'll both have plenty of potential.
I also know that historically there's little or no correlation between how much fun I've had playing games and the relative "power" rankings of the system I was playing on when comparing contemporary systems.
Would 't it be unreasonable to expect any console to be 2GHz+ As what you are saying means 2GHz is the low speed. It would probably be 1/2 the price to just increase CU count instead of paying such premium on case+cooling+psu
Any links to that rumor? Pretty sure RT wasn't planned for rdna1 as rdna1 itself was fast tracked to market. The various fixes supposedly coming with navi12 that were omitted in navi10 give that idea some legs.
Today is a good day to be alive. And I won't even say I told you so.
Not specifically clock speed as the "low speed devkit". The theory goes that for the "early low speed devit" Sony would have needed some hardware from AMD to put it out. Well the figures for the Github leak apparently match a 5700 card, so it's quite possible that AMD used early 5700 chips for the low speed devkits and clocked them higher to 2 GHz to squeeze out some more performance. This is what was used during the first Wired article and I'm guessing for the Github tests (or something similar to it). This explains why people at GDC were hearing 9.2 TF for the PS5 because that's what the devkit up until that point was capable of reaching. After GDC Sony shipped out devkits using the newer V shaped design and since then we've been hearing about figures higher than 9.2 TF and higher than 10 TF for the PS5 from insiders.
Welp, that's the theory at least :)
Can't believe I forgot about Death Stranding. I put 100+ hours into it too. But yeah, it looks incredible. Character models and environments are crazy impressive, as are the fluid effects. Hope to see even more of that in the next Horizon.
The only thing I found in between playing Witcher 3 (sorry) is a article from around E3 speculating that 5000 series cards could still have RT according to Lisa Su. I may be miss reading that however.
Yep. Oberon lacking RT makes it unlikely to be the 2020 PS5 chip.
I take Matt's comment as confirmation that there is still yet more to be uncovered. Just glad that the battle of github is coming to a close...
confirmation that the ps5 is indeed oberon and that its 9 tflops?
is oberon the gpu or an apu?
As usual, it's all rumors and speculation.
However, if Klee's words still stand, then it may well be between 12-13TF.
Debunked in the sense that it's not necessarily applicable to the final PS5 we'll get. Before Matt's post a lot were acting as though the PS5 was going to wind up being 9.2 TF. That is no longer a guarantee.
After getting games like horizon, Spider-Man, rdr2, gt sport and more on a console with what, less than 2tf I think, I'll be fine if PS5 has as little as 8-9TF for $399.
8-9TF will be alright for 2020/2021, but mid and late gen will struggle to deliver next-gen experiences. 12+TF is desirable.
I am happy with 10+
Few year back wanted SSD we get it and it really fast one ,wanted hardware RT get it .
Plus some other stuff we did not expect .
It never even made proper sense but what else were we going to talk about for days?
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PS5 specs
15tf rdna
100gb gddr9
10tb sdd
in practice 90x faster than the og ps4
Literally gets to know you with bleeding edge AI tech. You become actual fiends.
There is a V on the final hardware. A soft, synthetic v***na right in between.
the PlayStation will ask you to f**k it.
those are my last predictions until feb
15tf rdna
100gb gddr9
10tb sdd
in practice 90x faster than the og ps4
Literally gets to know you with bleeding edge AI tech. You become actual fiends.
There is a V on the final hardware. A soft, synthetic v***na right in between.
the PlayStation will ask you to f**k it.
those are my last predictions until feb
This is the winner. I leave for a few hours to watch football and come back to this hot mess. Firstly, to any of you who was disrespectful to Matt or took his words out of context, shame on you seriously. This is about video games and the moment you hear something you don't likeC you start shitting yourselves in anger. Grow up.
Secondly, nobody is debating the validity of the GitHub info. It's obvious it's true or else it wouldn't have been deleted and Rogame, etc. wouldn't have deleted their tweets. What Matt is saying is that despite having this information, none of it confirms anything about PS5, kid that the testing for these things were done.Someone was in here trying to say that Matt and others were having some concerted effort to downplay the info. Like really? We all started to calm down and the moment Matt says the GitHub info is not confirmation, everyone started questioning him all of a sudden. Some of you are super transparent and need to quit it.
I think hmqgg was saying XSX>PS5 based on the same/similar info as the github stuff.
I'm still sticking with PS5 being ~13TF and slightly more powerful.
I'm still sticking with PS5 being ~13TF and slightly more powerful.
It's possible, multiple posters have forwarded this idea.
That is what some of us were saying .
Sony need hardware to test BC so they over clock a RX 5700 until the get better hardware .
Also for dev kits.
fyi, some dude got banned for mocking predictions like this last week.
I never believed the 9.2TF rumor, it contradicted what Klee and Jason Schrier were saying for a while, and the lack of hardware RT (already confirmed by Mark Cerny) was a huge red flag for me.
I don't particularly expect Series X to be 9 given the form factor Microsoft are going with. The One X shows MS has the engineering chops to put lots of shit in a small form factor.
Which would suggest that using a PC tower most likely means they're going balls to the wall.
But in the end, it seems somewhat futile to focus of teraflops? Given we have a native 4K box we can go out and buy right now, I don't understand why more and more and more teraflops will matter much.
What's been holding these consoles back for the last 6 years? The CPU. That's where the excitement and focus should lie. Given both will allegedly have the same one, then we're effectively getting 2 of the same box for all intents and purposes.
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