They don't want to say a specific number because things can change.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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The Github repository contains RT and VRS testing data. Was that for Arden or Sparkman? Or none of them?
I am not at my desk at the moment but I sort of remember some pass/fail testing on Arden or Sparkman
All i'd take is whether it's double digits or not at this point.
Absolutely. I posted this last night:
I think Sony has something huge brewing and secrecy is of the utmost importance right now. Just like MS kept Series X under wraps for TGA? Sony is about to respond.
The quoting system is broken. I've misquoted so many people many times
I'm having trouble understanding the implications of the events of the past 90 minutes or so.
Would someone mind summarizing where we're at now?
Would someone mind summarizing where we're at now?
I mean, it's their personal repo, not an AMD repo. You would think these tests would go to a corporately held GitHub account and not his own personal one that has literally almost nothing else in ib and is new as of a year ago.
You don't accidentally `git push personal master`. They knew they were pushing to their personal repo, and they can clearly tell it's a public one.
They've since removed the repo or made it private. But it's too late. That person is in for a lot of hurt @ AMD.
this is a good question. the anaconda 12 tflops number has been out for almost a year. only benji mentioned the 13 tflops number and even he deleted it asap.
maybe it is 8 tflops and they dont want to incur the wrath of disgruntled sony fans.
klee knows the tflops and he said nothing has changed. its 13 tflops.
I don't think any insider will "confirm" anything let alone the radioactive TF figure.
If there is water to the whole 1.8GHz core clock for GPU holds any water for the final package, the worst case scenario with 36 CU active is just about 8.3 TF. If as previously mentioned, (presumably) GCN dev kit's (rumoured) 12.9TF were worth their salt then a RDNA card with a TF value of about 10.3 would not only do the same job, but exceed it due to other features like VRS.
So, with half a pint of salt- Worst case is ~8.3TF and personally ideal (because it breaks the 10TF mark making brochure worthy) is ~10.2 to 10.3 TF RDNA on a GPU featuring 44 to 48 CU active.
Now, how does this fit into the early rumours of 300mm2 die space... well others are better prepped with that knowledge.
PS5 is over 10 Tflops and has HW RT and VRS. You can settle for that and you will be fine and sane till the full reveal.
I would say that makes sense but what do I know. If Sparkman is essentially the next gen Series X and the current Xbox One S combined into one, you could start swapping out the One S blades for the Sparkman blades when Series X hits, yes? The lower-tiered Lockhart would be able to stream Series X games with Sparkman/Series X specs through xCloud?
I was told last night or the night before that it couldn't be just BC. But what if if it was PS4 BC, PS4 Pro BC (for games patched for the pro), and a PS5 patched PS4 games mode?
With that patent we discussed earlier, the 36 CU would make sense for testing purposes, whatever other CUs wouldn't need to be there for these tests and in the final gpu/apu they would reduce down to 36 CU when you play a PS4 game using that patent technique.
Probably still not it. But I had to write it out.
DukeBlueBall can we hear your thoughts on hmqgg's assertion that XSX is RDNA1 (7nm)? That's going to be big...
Klee was the only one to straight up give us a figure for PS5 which was 10+
Other people were aiming etc etc
hmqgg said he has Sony info but it don't look like he want to share .
As you can see Klee is the only one that do that on the Sony side.
If the banana is not taped to the console then it's gonna a be no from me.
I'm glad to see we've moved pass thinking the Github leak was confirmation of anything.
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It can't be different. We have nothing on 7nm+ and the node is not mature enough to have consoles production on April or May.
And this imply if they are pushing 11-12 tflops this console will consume more than 300w like df said.
I've also thought 7nm euv was a pipe dream until the past few days. 56Cus active sounded too much for a 350mm chip.
I switched over to team 7nm+ RDNA2 as a result but that was a mistake.
The Arden chip must be massive ~360-380mm2.
Technically speaking (and upon recalling previous events), Dr. Lisa Su presented slide shows of next gen console gaming comprising of 7nm Navi (RDNA) tech when unveiling Navi and latest Ryzen processors earlier this year. Next gen consoles were, iirc, never rumoured to be on the 7nm+ (upon which RDNA 2 is based). And so.... when did people start assuming XseX (or PS5) would be using RDNA 2 and not a customized version of RDNA?
People did not think that way for Sny from what i seen .
It when MS start using RT and VSR that some say MS using RDNA2.
It always made the most sense that both using custom parts that will pick and choose stuff.
There it is.
The preceding discussion that took that leak as incontrovertible fact is really funny.
To be clear - I certainly appreciate that the leak was far more interesting and of greater potential value than random Pastebin bullshit, but it never, ever remotely comported with the things you, Schrier, Warren, and Klee have said. When you have that mismatch, something is amiss.
Yeah, going to be tough hitting 12 TF on RDNA1 it would seem, unless they moved to 7NP.
Sounds like the same state of affairs as when PS4 and XBox One and then PS4 Pro and X's specs came to light.
Well even that worst case scenario doesn't sound so bad to me.
I think you're too optimistic about people letting go of things that help them tell a story they like.
This doesn't really seem to add anything useful to the discussion at this point honestly. Of course we don't have formal spec reveals/confirmation by the platform holders yet.
Thank you for walking everyone back from that. It never made any sense.
Is there anything else you can give us though...
Less than three hours after your message, we now have two insiders hints for the price of one. Enjoy the ride 🎢
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