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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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I think BC is also going to be a huge part of their marketing points
And there was Sony job advertisement that claimed the PS5 will be the fastest or some such https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/ps5-worlds-fastest-console/
Given the more guarded language from both since, I don't think rhetoric is necessarily a good indicator at the moment.
He will be vindicated if it turns out this way. But those were the days......so similar to what we have see the past week when the thread moved with every passing wind.
To your 3rd point I agree but competition the start of this gen is a thousand times tougher for sony. They need to pick up the pace if their output. Is 1 GoW or Lou or HZD per gen enough to keep up the interest of staying invested in an ecosystem for 7 or so years?
So you're saying Phil has already told us everything we need to know?
Now I see where hmqgg got his , "Dante CPU/GPU matches anaconda"
"I think" right before saying that....
Proven
I think that doc mentioned by Klobrille was probably the main source for the 12TF/4TF article/rumour blitz from January and February and again more recently?
Or the most logical, they know PS5 is more powerful.
Even a dev here said everyone already knows target specs for both console.
Oberon 36cu 2ghz info was found out by komachi long ago. We knew most likely MS too, yet they didn't gave exact 12TF numbers. This tells me MS knows PS5 is more powerful and not 9.2TF.
Keep in mind this was Klo prettying up the dev info that was apparently leaked.
I think if PS5 ends up $100 cheaper(than XSX) and more powerful than Lockhart that and it's brand power will be it's biggest selling points.
I still can't see PS5 being more powerful but it would be quite a dramatic way to end all this speculation if it was.
I think that they're going to show their hand a bit at the PS5 reveal or E3 2020. What's coming 2-3 years down the line, so people decide to go with PlayStation.
They sealed the deal on current-gen at E3 2016 when they showed games that weren't coming for years. It worked then and it'll work in 2020.
Were you absent when they purchased Insomniac? I think they'll be fine with them in their pocket.
Indeed this journey has been glorious! 😃
Even more fun than I had with the launch of the current gen and mid gen units.
You don't need PS5 to be more powerful for drama if PS5 comes over 9.2 there will be loads of it .
Truth is if Sony comes in 11TF and MS 12 TF the GPU could be a wash depending on clock speeds.
That's true, and I think most people would be pleased if they're that close in the end.
See I really don't think so. The games MS are going to be offering aren't really in direct competition with what Sony has been successful at. With the exception of perhaps Ninja Theory. Sony isn't in the CRPG business, nor are they really in the FPS business for the most part. Those are two avenues that MS are pursuing heavily.
I am not trying to discredit this. I believe these insiders, although I get really tired with their pot shot console warring.
After all of those acquisitions that MS made they need to be.
If that happen you see what people think more important raw TF.
Things like pixel rate etc etc or compute on MS side.
On thing for certain DF will have great time if that happens.
Yeah Insomniac is going to be a very big asset for them. They put out 3 AAA games in 3 different franchises in one generation (Sunset Overdrive, Ratchet, Spider-Man).
Think Sony splitting both MS consoles might be the smart thing to do. A 9tf machine at $399 could do very well.
The difference will probably be similar to the Pro vs X; 4K vs 1440p checkerboard to 4K (which worked well before). Couple that with a faster SSD and the same CPU, and it will be a pretty decent machine.
Their devs can out develop MS's first party games, and the third party games will have a difference that maybe the average Joe won't care about.
Release a Pro version 3 years into the generation and this could be a very clever idea.
The difference will probably be similar to the Pro vs X; 4K vs 1440p checkerboard to 4K (which worked well before). Couple that with a faster SSD and the same CPU, and it will be a pretty decent machine.
Their devs can out develop MS's first party games, and the third party games will have a difference that maybe the average Joe won't care about.
Release a Pro version 3 years into the generation and this could be a very clever idea.
I happened to piece them together over two months ago! The test data leak just happened to match my deductions.
Brutal.
Edit: the whole convo/thread on Twitter is cringe from Brat. My god, what a bias.
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Nope matt has been saying stuff for years .
For eg he was certain PS5 will have BC for years now before any rumors started about next gen.
Only a sith deals in absolutes ;)
You probably mean DF will say that the best version is on xsx, cause lockhart exists.
I dont think that a resolution gate will be in the same magnitude as in the xboxone/ps4 launch period. The xsx will not be 100$ dollars cheaper than ps5.
How long is 1$ gamepass sustainable? At one point ms needs to charge full price, otherwise people will get to accostomed to wait for one dollar deals and stacking up for years in advance.
Anyway i cant wait for the first DF comparison!
Probably a 2million+ views and trending video
I wish someone leak the unfiltered version, it'll bring more interesting conversations that I wouldn't mind having some day
This ain't a shot to matt ps4pro had BC mode this really ain't saging much lol. X86 makes this possible
Embarrassing from Brad Grenz that worst of the worst warrior type shit. Not to mention he came back weeks later looking to argue again 🤣
This neither explains, nor excuses the shitty behavior from Brat. But that's just my opinion on it so who cares :-)
And thanks to you and hmqgg we managed to put an end to Arden=PS5 fantasy.
Oh no its insanely important but 1 per gen is a lot to stretch out over 7 plus years (maybe longer with mid gen refresh)
Nah it's real documentation klobrille just reimagined andcovered the interesting parts. Most of it is out anyway now
Saying it since the old forum is saying much when you certain it would happen.
Sure some of us were certain Sony would have BC but not certain how it would be.
I am hoping fir this tbh. Ps3 being more powerful was a disaster for sony with what it took. And ps4 being more powerful was just a fluke of ms being intentionally conservative.
Sony should double down on investing in games and value proposition to get into more homes rather than playing a power game ms is thirsty to win.
At the end of the day both ps5 and series x will be well worth it as next gen machines coming from base ps4 and xb1..and in addition..lockhart by default will ball and chain a lot of the potential of things to start with
One good Spider-Man game came out in the last like 10-15 years and it was that one. And Sony bought the studio. I'm sure it'll move units
There will be 2 spidey games next gen you can bet on that .
Since the first one will come out early next gen.
In fact since stuff coming out early you might have 2 of each IP that name there.
Lol why would they make only 1? Insomniac is very efficient and they released a shitton of games this gen, now that they have the importantly parts of Spider-Man figured out we'll easily get at least 2 from them, same goes for GoW and Horizon.
I'm not. I'd prefer both sides have similar levels of hardware/power so that it's purely the games and services that do the talking, and not more bullshit power PR.
5700XT RDNA : TF count
Vega 64 GCN : TF Count
People don't understand that firstly, TF depend on the FP, 16, 32 or 64. Here we are all talking about only FP32.
Then GCN =/= RDNA
So of course we don't care 1TF = 1TF but you don't get 5700 XT performance with Vega 64. 5700 XT > Vega 64 even with less TF.
"Do the math" with only FP32 isn't right enough. We should do with all theorical performance. And it's too complicated, Phil was certainly talking about real performance, not theorical. That's why he said Richard from DF did a good job. Because Richard found that "2x One X real performance" is something like a 9/10TF RDNA card.
The ps3 problem was anything but power. It was hard to develop for the cell processor, launched a year later and at 600 dollars....
I think that you're also forgetting that Guerilla, Sucker Punch and SSM were all making something new too. Foundations were laid in this gen, and the sequel to all of these games should come in shorter order. I think we'll almost definitely see a sequel to all those respective franchises, and another game beside that from all these studios next gen. And that's not to speak of the 9 other studios they have under their wing.
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