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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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I was reading up on that but i could not find the size how big the chip would be seem to be really small.
Please stop constructing ridiculous conspiracies. No one with any sense gives a single fuck about what company an executive works for, or views themselves on a "side" in some infantile war between consoles.
The general behavior in this thread has been abhorrent, and I'm sick of it.
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I do not understand why Matt's post is immediately taken by so many as being about Cerny and hardware ray-tracing. The discussion was trending towards Sony coming up with their own system for it, not that Cerny was a liar.
Your point? This is literally someone saying others were saying he's lying about HW RT without quoting those people.
Yes AMD will be there that is not exactly anything new.
I think most are getting it out early a few are still at the beginning stages. At the end of the day 9.2.tfs zen 2 for 399-449 is a good piece of hardware
I appreciate you doing this. It was sorely needed in this catastrophe.
I just hope this moderation is consistent next time someone excuses Phil or other Xbox execs of lying about RDNA, 12TF, etc!
Consistency in moderation is key to a healthy thread, especially this one so we can get back to actually interesting and grounded discussion. I'm sure the last thing you want to do is babysit on holiday week. Thanks for stopping by.
It's too late, I'm on the DS5 has backbuttons train now. I'm more certain of this train than the HBM train that I am also on.
I guess we don't know that yet. But I'm assuming they'll be re-programmable buttons, like the recently announced back button attachment does. Or they may be all new buttons that developers can use as they wish. For example, in shooters, developers should map jump/slide/duck to the rear buttons so you don't have to take your thumbs off the sticks while doing those actions.
Couple of things:
1) 9.2 is still very powerful
2) 9.2 makes sense given many speculating the Series X might be 9-10TF RDNA
3) It would technically mean they are both close
As others have stated. Phil would have chosen his words carefully. He never said "Double the Teraflops". He said "Double the performance". So I can understand the argument that it's not 12TF.
I don't personally agree it won't be 12TF, but I can totally understand the argument. I just doubt they'd go with the form factor they have unless they put some ridiculous shit in there. That form factor was chosen for a very specific reason.
I think it's the best thing Sony could do. $399 is the right price to launch at.
For accessibility but also for folk to reconfigure for taste, like moving the jump and reload buttons off the face buttons so you can keep your right thumb on the stick in FPS games.
But it would also need to be backwards compatible to the 1x which would mean it's probably 4.6 or so TF. I just don't think MS would be using that huge PC form factor for around 9 TF of power they could easily be a much smaller box imo.
I know emotions are high or whatever over these plastic boxes but is it worth being an ass about?
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Because more accurate, detailed information came out and people are twisting themselves into pretzels to explain it away rather than simply assume it's old and dated.
Listen Matt, all you need are eyes. You've never seen blatant, outright disrespect for Xbox execs and employees at a level you don't ordinarily see for Sony execs on both this forum and the previous one? It seems the mere suggestion has struck a nerve, but I'm just keeping it real with you if nobody else is willing to. And if you're being honest with yourself, you know full well it's not a made up conspiracy theory. It's the reality of the situation we are in at this very moment. My opinion, feel free to think as you like.
9,2Tf with Hw RT VS 12TF without RT
Which one do you choose for the same price ? Ok we all know here we gonna get RT on both console. But ok if 9,2TF is what we get, it's still 2X the one X GPU. Enough for 1st party game, maybe not enough for 4K/60fps native.
The only thing I'm scared about is if you look closely one X vs Pro TFs, on RDR2 you can see drop on Pro but smooth 30fps on One X.
If Ps5 is really 9TF and XSX 12TF, I'm afraid to see same thing on 3rd party game, more enjoyable on XSX with frame rate.
When that happens, report it. There isn't a lack of consistency in moderation on this topic, because we're adults who genuinely don't care about sides in this pathetic schoolyard fight.
And to a hammer, every problem is a nail. Report violations of this forum's rules and they will be acted on.
It what some people think might happen so the other leak that don't have hardware RT in it make sense.
It not really news per say .
Are those buttons on the bottom? <holds PS4 controller>. Seems like very odd placement...
the info leaking doesn't reach the average consumer. And if it does, why say 2x and not 2.5 times more powerful?
Seems intentional to confuse and generate talk rather than give an exact picture, especially when the ones saying 12rdna are not MS themselves, so if it ends being 12GCN they don't are the ones that were lying.
In fact knowing that the hardcore will dissectionate all info not giving exact details is the clue here, if it is 12 rdna just say it.
In the end this is not as simple as you say. This is MS in full marketing for a while, and marketing is vague or precise when needed.
As a refresher
Can somebody explain what these patents from Mark Cerny are describing? Sounds a bit like vrs to me:
And one from Tobias Berghoff
Can somebody explain what these patents from Mark Cerny are describing? Sounds a bit like vrs to me:
And one from Tobias Berghoff
Tbf matt we had a mod threatening to ban people over a data mined source yesterday.
Like seriously. The hell is that shit. If X series it's really around 12 TF it's guaranteed ps5 will follow the same fate. Sony have already stated to point out to the best hardware possible. There won't be 3 TF of difference with the same year of release. Only fanboy can think it.
The weird thing about this is that it's a DS4 with extra buttons, while the DS5 patent had no rear buttons. So I don't know what the point of a new DS4 is when they've already announced that two-button accessory.New buttons on the DS5:
Via https://nl.letsgodigital.org/spelcomputers-games/sony-playstation-5-wireless-dualshock-update/
If it's supposed to be compatible with PS5 (let's say for PSVR games, which is weird, the old controller could just work) why add a feature that DS5 doesn't have?
By the way, just a question about optimization.
If we take RDR2 analysis on PS4 Pro or Days Gone. It seems there are some stuttering in some place right ? Do you think new API with VRS could help to patch quickly some of those stuttering ?
I mean sometimes these are just about texture of deep of field. I hope we can get enhancements on frame rate because on some games I think it just impossible for dev to get anything better
If we take RDR2 analysis on PS4 Pro or Days Gone. It seems there are some stuttering in some place right ? Do you think new API with VRS could help to patch quickly some of those stuttering ?
I mean sometimes these are just about texture of deep of field. I hope we can get enhancements on frame rate because on some games I think it just impossible for dev to get anything better
Why would the PS5 be 9 and the X 12? I'm seriously asking. Did something new on performance revealed?
You had a mod make a joke.
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I agree with this. There's no way in this world that MS could achieve a better performance. I believe in Klee.
Not really only speculation and some tweet from unknown guys talking about APU named Oberon and other stuff without HW which might not be APU next gen console no worries
I really hope those are buttons/paddles on the DS5. It's shaping up to be their best controller yet.
The same mod makes jokes about permabanning people but bans people for "console war" gifs.
I'm laughing at the absolute belief that there is no way Microsoft would be able to put out more powerful hardware.
For what it's worth, I do think the PS5 will be more powerful, but the idea that Microsoft, of all the companies that exist in the world, can't put out hardware more powerful than Sony's no matter what, is absurdly funny to me.
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