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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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We'll know about RDNA2 and big Navi. That will tell us a fair bit.
Those ps5 specs seem about right for 399 machine and games would be great. Remember these are mass market consoles guys. I've bin saying series x is not gonna be 12tflop Navi all along. 12 tflop Navi is so much more than 2x Xbox one x. I mean why undersell.
Plus for me personally I'd rather no Ray tracing. I have a 2070 super and ryzen 3600, which is pretty comparable to new consoles. I play with raytracing off most the time as I don't think the performance hit is worth it. Raytracing is gonna bog these consoles down and we're gonna be stuck with 30fps games because of it.
Plus for me personally I'd rather no Ray tracing. I have a 2070 super and ryzen 3600, which is pretty comparable to new consoles. I play with raytracing off most the time as I don't think the performance hit is worth it. Raytracing is gonna bog these consoles down and we're gonna be stuck with 30fps games because of it.
You hope I'm trolling in response to someone telling me to stop posting garbage and insulting me?
Interesting view. But okay.
I'm simply telling you and the other poster what DF said. He was saying DF confirmed RDNA. I pointed out they didn't and posted what DF had said.
The 12TF number is not in contention. I have never contended that.
For sparkman, it's not 100% confirmed to be Lockhart, but it has the same estimated bandwidth as scarlett and is reportedly weaker than both Arden (anaconda/series x) and Oberon (PS5)
For Oberon, there is big reason to believe it is some version of PS5, whether just some in development version that isn't representing of the final APU or otherwise, because it includes backwards compatibility GPU clocks that are an exact match to the PS4 and the PS4 pro.
i told you to stop posting garbage, not that you're garbage.
stop trying to make yourself the victim when you're just spamming this thread with the same fanboy drivel because you're concerned Sony might have a less powerful kit
is this a hardware speculation thread or a public opinion shaping brainstorm thread?
I just don't buy it.
I barely can type in english but I'd like to try and ask something.
Do those results showing up in June/July imply that the gpu/devkit was being tested by that time? Could them not just be old results from previous tests?
There could also be the possibilty of those results belonging to and older devkit/gpu setup with missing features that were not available at that time (i.e. RDNA2 features). It's the same excuse Tom Warren used for explaining why Ms were so late in shipping devkits to developers.
Doesn't seem unreasonable.
After this new info, my expectation right now
PS5 - $399.99
zen 2 8/16 @ 3.2
9.2TF navi/rdna
16GB gddr6 (3GB OS)
1TB SSD 3GB/s
XSX - $499.99
zen 2 8/16 @ 3.5
12TF navi/rdna
16GB gddr6 (3GB OS) with more bandwidth than PS5
1TB SSD 2.4GB/s
Are reddit posts allowed?
posted after the info from last night
posted after the info from last night
Power VR would be a separate chip .
Which make things more expensive than just going with AMD.
Here the some info on it
Okay. Are you going to negate what I said or are you simply incapable of doing math?
It's okay if you are.
So it may not be PS5 and PS5 Pro, but PS4 Pro, and PS5. And thus, nobody has found the PS5 chip?
No need to be so strident. The 12 tf has been rumoured by a few sources, but not confirmed. DF is legit but is second hand info, so not verified as they confirmed themselves. If they think it is is plausible then it definitely has credence. Windows Central and Tom Warren come across as pretty darn partisan. Maybe what they say is correct, but they are pretty clearly MS leaning. Spencer tweeting DF's article means nothing, it is publicity. He points the direction and people do the interpretation.
I think that makes sense, internally, for streaming purposes with the PS Now service but not sure the public wants (or needs) a new (more powerful) PS4 Pro model releasing close to the actual PS5.
But again, internally it does make some sense. Just like Lockhart only makes sense for me in terms of them having a base instance for the streaming service.
That user has submissions related to ReRAM too. They're guessing.
Posts like this really reduce the quality of this thread. How many times does it need to be mentioned that Godfall is basically an Indie game whereas Hellblade is first party.
Also, Shinobi already said that Godfall is not representative of what is possible on the PS5.
These facts have been established since TGAs and now you are spewing old nonsense again?
Because PS5 is 599 and PS4 will keep giving them profits for the long run. Time to get that 2nd job. 😂
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is this a post about gaming hardware or politics
i'm not exactly sure what you're getting at as I have not huffed as much cocaine as I need to understand it.
Exactly, why waste money on such high bandwidth for an APU which doesn't need it? I can't see 18Gbps chips or wider than 256-bit bus inside Lockheart.
I'm guessing it's just our own speculation being slightly repackaged and reposted on Reddit.
This thread is a rollercoaster.
*cant find the gif of the old woman on a rollercoaster*
Damn it!
*cant find the gif of the old woman on a rollercoaster*
Damn it!
Sonys answer to a budget next gen console is a more powerful last gen console? Not sure about that one.
I'm the one playing dumb?
Sorry I don't consider my gaming hardware to be a political "side" like you do.
What I posted is either in the video or the DF article. But let's listen to your time stamp. Moments after the time stamp, he says "assuming this is true."
So again, my point, assumptions, leaks =/= confirmations. DF has not confirmed it.
Are you going to keep asking useless questions.
Let me show you something:
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/10065...eux-prochaines-xbox-devoilees-a-l-e3-2019.htm
This was in February of this year. Prior to E3 but more importantly, prior to RDNA reveal. This leak says Series X is 12TF and Lockhart is 4TF. Which are the numbers we have now.
So, we have this leak that got the numbers right back in February, which would be in GCN. We have the multipliers provided.
But you are telling me that the thought of me thinking it might be 12TF GCN is crazy?
Absolutely ZERO sense.
but I do hope we get two PS5 SKU
the main general purpose PS5 and the beefier GPU one with more storage.
yes, it implies they were still testing these gpus in june when the devkits were already out.
both ariel and oberon are 36 cus. oberon is a newer revision of ariel which is almost a year old. so sony did update their older devkit/gpu setup and still did not include any rdna 2.0 features like vrs and rt, and kept the counts at 36. all they did was a clock speed boost which gets us from 8.2 to 9.2 tflops.
right. this lines up with what cerny said. a dedicated hardware for rt. it does not invalidate the oberon leaks from yesterday.
lol everyone quoting me is disagreeing with me. i dont think anyone is taking my posts as gospel. its a speculation thread and every post of mine should be taken as speculation.
i did post several qualifiers last night and even today. i just cant be bothered to do it in every post. this news does not please me in the slightest but there is nothing wrong with connecting the dots and speculating on the leaks imo.
When Phil does these coordinated interviews like the Gamespot one, I think particular attention should be paid to what he is saying.
He's the master of foreshadowing, lol.
Oh sure, but he just tweeted an article that gave positive coverage. I don't think that confirms anything. It doesn't deny anything either.
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