Amazon are the worst.
I can't even imagine how traumatic that must have been, expecting a new console , opening it up and instead finding a baby you hadn't ordered.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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Amazon are the worst.
I can't even imagine how traumatic that must have been, expecting a new console , opening it up and instead finding a baby you hadn't ordered.
I think you made a logic jump there: Games for xsx will work to exploit the SSD, and have fallbacks for having to run on other systems if they indeed run on them. Even if its not exploited in the same way as on ps5, it will be exploited, and an off-the-shelf part over usb wont cut it. (and huge chance the SSD is soldered on the mobo)
At this rate, we will go through two more threads before the PS meeting, lol.
PS5 in any case because I'm heavily invested in their ecosystem and because I like their exclusives. I might get Lockhart with Gamepass down the line.
PS5 in any case because I'm heavily invested in their ecosystem and because I like their exclusives. I might get Lockhart with Gamepass down the line.
I will likely have to buy a physical collector's edition or custom console if offered for Halo Infinite with the Xbox Series X. But Game Pass is going to be such a big driver for Xbox at launch to be able to tell consumers that you get to play the entire launch lineup as part of the subscription along with tons of other games, rather than spend an extra $120 or $180 potentially on launch games with an already expensive console. That is going to resonate much more widely than on these enthusiast forums where we all nitpick over TF and such.
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I see now why you said to me the other day it would be controversial to say what you thought current PS5 and XSX dev kit specs were.
I see now why you said to me the other day it would be controversial to say what you thought current PS5 and XSX dev kit specs were.
Yup, being able to play the next-gen version of Halo Infinite on launch for $299 (possibly) with Lockhart and a free month of GP is pretty mindblowing. I will be buying Series X, however. I think it'd be cool if they could preload all launch consoles with Halo Infinite so you don't have to install when you get home.
I actually happened to be in Vegas during launch week in 2013, a bunch of us crossed the pond to celebrate our 40th birthday, and we just went into a store at some casino and bought 5 of them...I didn't know this was such an issue tbh.
This time around I'll pre-ordered it from Amazon
This time around I'll pre-ordered it from Amazon
I thought wrong because I saw some controversial stuff being posted. The thread got locked!
I ended up posting my updated predictions a few pages back.
I dont think sony using azure entail them giving their upcoming console specs lol that would be scummy on ms's part lol
Yeah to me there's no way on earth you're going to get Karen to go out and buy a $500 (+120 for games and accessories) console with all the same games as Xbox. Then she has to buy games all year for the kid. Karen is going to go on YouTube and be like dang. Xbox is so cheap. I pay $500 up front and then maybe $180 for a year and don't have to buy any games.
Simple.
Old bc games (non next gen enhanced) can run off external.
New games + next gen enhanced BC games have to be on the internal (or possibly some externals that meet a speed requirement)
everyone should temper their talk about ps5 being the catalyst for some new ram technology. 20mil consoles in a year is a drop in the bucket on total ram sold in a year.
if they do it, and it's good, more power to them, but hbm2 might need to be in a whole lot more devices to ever see good prices emerge
just practicing temperance
if they do it, and it's good, more power to them, but hbm2 might need to be in a whole lot more devices to ever see good prices emerge
just practicing temperance
Hopefully when Karen asks for the "new Xbox" the cashier doesn't get confused by the name and accidentally sells her the OG Xbox from 15 years ago.
HBM2, HBM2E is being used innrender cards, data centers and ever growing AI centers. Which Sony is heavily invested in. Plus you have Micron, Samsung, Hynix making it. So .......
Eh. I think people really underestimate news cycles around new gens
Based on what I deducted from Komachis information, ad the die size leak from AquariusZ, I am.
Caveat is that Komachi and AquariusZ can be wrong due to misinterpretation, mistake, or fabrication. They are strangers on the internet after all.
Grains of salt and all that.
Sorry. So many real honest takes around that the past few weeks it's hard to tel
I think the main reason I still hold out hope for HBM isn't because I think it's a sure thing, but rather because I'd prefer having two different designs in the market that could potentially enable different gaming experiences rather than being cookie-cutter clones of one another with different corporate logos stamped on the box. It's inevitable that they're starting from a common technology pool but if they don't make some different decisions as a result of reaching different conclusions or making unique trade-offs then IMHO the unavoidable conversations about which is superior will be even more insufferable.
So MS 100% hands off? I would assume they would have some involvement while the racks are built.
Sure but you seem more confident yourself based on the B3D thread? Flutter was discussing it in this thread this morning and asked you a question. Did you miss that post?
Well, yea. It would likely be a mix of the Azure engineering and network teams if Xbox isn't involved at all.
I feel like I need to ask a question of those making some relatively out there guesses.
Is your speculation coming from a place where the rumoured 2019 PS5 did or didn't exist?
Is your speculation coming from a place where the rumoured 2019 PS5 did or didn't exist?
I asked this some time ago and it went unaswered so I thought I might try again.
Concerning Ms' Backwards compatibility solution, is it feasible to expect a boost for non-X-patched Xbox One games (especially early gen games like Ryse and Sunset Overdrive).
The X did this with some 360 games (I know we are talking about a HUGE power gulf) but given how much efficient RDNA architecture is compared to GCN and XSX' 12 Tflops Navi are a nice boost over XOS' 1.4 Tflops gcn it wouldnt surprise me.
For patched X games I would expect a boost in texture filtering and performance boost + games with dynamic res would receivr an inmediate upgrade
Concerning Ms' Backwards compatibility solution, is it feasible to expect a boost for non-X-patched Xbox One games (especially early gen games like Ryse and Sunset Overdrive).
The X did this with some 360 games (I know we are talking about a HUGE power gulf) but given how much efficient RDNA architecture is compared to GCN and XSX' 12 Tflops Navi are a nice boost over XOS' 1.4 Tflops gcn it wouldnt surprise me.
For patched X games I would expect a boost in texture filtering and performance boost + games with dynamic res would receivr an inmediate upgrade
Correct me if I'm wrong but they only signed a deal to potentially use azure a mou and haven't actually done anything in regards to that at scale I would think?
Thank you for going into detail on this. I was wondering - do you know if there are any particular types/genres of games that have a tendency to benefit from FP16 more often?
I assume there'll be some "built in" boosts but who knows what they could be. Any game with an unlocked frame rate will go up I assume as a start.
So is that a Made in China wall, or the Great Firewall kind of connotation.
"Chinese wall" is a business term. It means to put up legal and procedural barriers so one team is unable to share any outside information with the rest of the organization.
I would've thought they'd be a number business rules/regulations about this and basic business etiquette?
ETA: Oh, I hadn't heard that term before.
Not good enough, in this case I would expect at least a Trump Wall.
I just can't wait to see more next gen gameplay footage. Games already look incredible on PS4 and XB1.
Forza Horizon 4:
Shadow of the Colossus:
Forza Horizon 4:
Shadow of the Colossus:
There are, it's called a Chinese wall (or ethics wall, which is a better term).
Estimate the units a year? PS5 would probably be by far the biggest usage in a year at least for a while. I have no doubt it will become mainstream, just probably super expensive right now
Yeah, I feel RedGamingTech's theory on Komachi's Oberon A0 leak could be wrong because it's not as easy as downclocking the CPU or limiting the CU count. Cerny decided against upgrading the CPU and GPU and decided on a butterfly design for the APU because of it:
From the Digital Foundry PS4 Pro interview:
What Komachi probably found was Cerny's BC system. Downclocking the CPU, AND a few other stuff including spoofing the CPUID for BC purposes (although the latter is in another patent)
From the Digital Foundry PS4 Pro interview:
That 'experiment' was patented a few months before that interview:
What Komachi probably found was Cerny's BC system. Downclocking the CPU, AND a few other stuff including spoofing the CPUID for BC purposes (although the latter is in another patent)
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One good thing about this gen is that I am still impressed by it's graphics.
Last gen I got at the end the feeling that everything is looking samey...
I have half a mind to beg Phil Spencer on Twitter to put FH4 on Steam for those of us who live in a country that doesnt support Game Pass...
Dunno if thats at all accurate, but just some numbers for a little perspective and soda
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