Yeah I think Sony will definitely have the better SSD, should have pointed it out in my prediction. But I think it will lead to like a 1ish second difference in loading time.
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Yeah I think Sony will definitely have the better SSD, should have pointed it out in my prediction. But I think it will lead to like a 1ish second difference in loading time.
Those Xbox numbers are the leaked ones from Windows Central, and the PS5 numbers are derived from Cerny's statement and the patents (which even show numbers going up to 10 GB/s afair).
I think you are going to be proven wrong based on all the details we know about.
I wouldn't hold my breath, there will most likely be a Ratchet game before the next Spiderman game. I am expecting both the next spiderman and GOW games to come in the same year, and sometime in 2022.
I guess common sense only applies to Xbox predictions huh?
From the first Wired interview: "Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs."
Higher than 3.5GB/s is more than 2GB/s AFAIK
I think you're wrong based off of the info we know about. #shrug
I'm really curious what a next gen LEGO game could look like.
Those prices arrangements feel so convenient for a great scenario for MS and a terrible one for Sony. I wonder why...
In terms of their overall output, yes. In terms of how they get there with their specific tech, not quite.
Probably, but I don't this means that the Xbox is going to be that far behind.
Both are 499 what's the big deal? Both boxes will basically be identical.
And we're back to "SSDs are just for loading" . Thought we left that behind months ago.
And please, use multiquote.
SSDs can open up new opportunities in game design, not just facilitate fewer loading times.
Except this isn't just tales from the the rear, which seems to be where you're getting your assurances from.
Please see some of the responses above in regards to the SSD, if you're not sure what that info I'm referring to is.
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Great now we're getting a bunch of troll predictions
PS5 more powerful and less expensive. How's it going Spinningbirdkick? (or whatever his name was)
Why can't Xbox be behind on this? You seem to be fine on PS5 being behind on both CPU clock and TF.
We literally don't have any actual info on what the PS5 specs will be so I'm going off of what has been said.
Ahh my mistake. But I still think his first tweet was legit information just like the other ND Dev.
I said PS5 will be 1TF behind which is like 5-10%. The other guy said the PS5 SSD will literally be 250% faster.
Y'all just talking about the SSD and the man's prediction had a split memory pool setup of 16GB HBM2 and 16GB DDR4. Like, what? Bruh, the HBM2 alone would cost more than half the "predicted" cost of the box, lmao.
I'm sorry but I don't see the "troll" in that post. Might be a bit optimistic from a Sony point of view, but PS4 was more powerful and less expensive this gen..
Both kind of predictions are welcome in my honest opinion pro MS and pro Sony. As a semi-lurker I love to read other peoples predictions.
Except that they aren't... who in their right mind would buy the PS4 when priced the same but weaker in pretty much every other way?
I read your prediction as one of those I can't help myself type posts.
And that's what makes this worse... cause you are very conveniently picking and choosing "what has been said".
But that's what happened this gen? Wouldn't surprise me if it will be similar with next-gen. Microsoft seems to be adamant to split their user base between different console versions (Series X / Lockhart), which might lead to lower volumes for each SKU, and to more uncertainty (which SKU will sell more?), making negotiations possibly harder. Sony won't have any of those problems, and PlayStation is one of the main pillars of Sony, so I think they will be aggressive. That's why I think they might be priced that way. Regarding power, that's just the latest rumors we have heard from devs / insiders.
I think he's saying he is the troll. Only pops in to defend his console;too make sure things are in order. Ignore. Move on. You'll not miss anything of value.
I mean you put the Xbox SX as the more powerful one - which I believe is something completely doable btw - at the same price as the PS5.
Then you go and throw another less powerful plataform and cut US200 cuz reasons.
Your reasoning isn't at least cohesive.
If you at least tried to balance things like better SSD solution, better CPU or whatever.
last time I checked the sole purpose of a mass storage device is to move data to or from the main memory, what should also do a console ssd?
Actually thats the first thing that came to my mind when I read this tweet.
People here are too obsessed with next gen they will read everything as a hint
I probably shouldn't have listed specs because I'm not too familiar with them, but if I had to guess Xbox will probably aim for the most powerful console while Sony will claim the fastest
It seems PS5 SSD is faster than current PC SSD. It was in Xbox podcast chatroom last week in a Xbox Podcast.
He has seen Prospero devkit since he works at Activision Blizzard.
Sony must have upgraded the ninjas, but it is nice to hear some new info. And he used to work for MS. Nice to see unbiased posts.
I mean they did demo it, one would think it was a big deal to them. So...can we take this as a legit speculation point now or......
So much I wanted to say the past few days, folks already beat me to it. Next gen is shaping up to be...next gen. I can't wait for the games, my god.
Love is all we need, the secret sauce is love. If anything Klee said that should be remembered, it's to be kinder to each other. Please don't take all this too serious. Like someone said, it's more trying to solve a puzzle instead of trying to figure out if X machine is better than Y machine. Its kind of easy to tell what posts are in good faith. Be excited for all tech, not just what's in your preferred platform.
I wonder why that is......on that note, where is the thread about the Series X and similar info? Legit question. Did they move it to OT?
It really does help.
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If the PS5 is better in pretty much every way like in your prediction, Series X will be less expensive than it. There's no reason to think that Xbox won't be just as aggressive, as they have a renewed backing from MS.
Imran speculated that it's coming "earlier than you expect" and guessed Holiday 2021, though it could get pushed to 2022. If it's 2021, I expect it to be announced some time in 2020, I think a PSX announcement a year out would make sense. Also gives PS5 an extra little jolt soon after launch. Nothing too huge, just a little announcement trailer.
Really? How do you feel about mine?
I think we all have the same rights to make our prediction. You don't have to agree but a prediction doesn't fit in somebody's point of view isn't trolling.
So despite Mark C stating definitively that the SSD would be faster than anything available at the time of that article we're just going to low-ball it because "hey, why not?" And PS5 is going to be better in every category but also come in $50 cheaper? Hey man, are y'all alright?
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"KLee was right" will be repeated often. And it will be glorious to the see the reactions/meltdowns. Some are barely holding it together right now.
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Wow, seeing some names I haven't seen in a long time pop up in this thread. Xbox-era on high alert or something?
just some notes:
Xbox CPU was 3.6 GHz
16 GB GDDR6, but 3 GB reserved for OS.
your PS5 prediction is fairly optimistic.
Now that's something that I can see.
Each team targeting different aspects and getting the edge in what they are focusing more.
Common sense for them is believe Phil and good xbox news but no one else.
What is funny is Cerny is a hardware and software guy and knows more about that stuff than Phil ever will.
No it won't since the price of HBM2 has gone down .
It's in the thread if you want to read about it.
I'm not so sure about that, like I said:
- Sony knows that their next console will probably sell 80-100M -> Helps with negotiating contracts.
- For Microsoft this isn't guaranteed (XO sold 45M), they likely have to be more careful -> Makes negotiating contracts harder.
- Microsoft wants to have different SKUs from beginning, which means lower volumes for certain parts ordered - > Makes negotiating contracts harder.
- MIcrosoft doesn't know how XSX and Lockhart will sell. Will XSX sell more? Or Lockhart? - > Makes planning and negotiating contracts harder.
That's why I think they will initially price XSX at $499, and Lockhart maybe at $349, which is similar to current gen. Of course they will try to reduce price if Sony turns out to be cheaper, or will try pack-ins with Game Pass. But initially I think it's $499 for XSX.
I'll be made my predictions in the past so I'll just update them since the reveal is around what I predicted in March this year, Lockhart not so much:
No chiplets this time!
Xbox Series S:
8 core Zen at ~3.4 ghz, 16 threads, 7nm+
12GB of GDDR6 on 192-bit bus, 330gb/s, 3GB reserved for OS
24 CU at 1400 mhz, 4 teraflops,
1TB SSD at 2+GB/s
$299
XBOX Series X:
8 core Zen at 3.6 ghz, 16 threads, 7nm+
20GB of GDDR6 on 320-bit bus, 640gb/s, 4GB reserved for OS, 1GB extra for full 8k buffer for OS.
60 CU at 1600 mhz, 12.3 teraflops, 7nm+
1TB SSD at 2+GB/s
$499
PS5 prediction from May adjusted with Komachis leaks and other deductions:
8 core zen 3.2+ ghz
16GB GB GDDR6, ~500GB/s 2-3GB reserved for OS
4GB DDR4, 2GB for OS, 2GB for SSD Cache
Navi GPU 36CU, 64 ROPS at 2-2.15ghz, 9.2-9.9 TF
1 TB SSD at 4+GB/s
$399
No chiplets this time!
Xbox Series S:
8 core Zen at ~3.4 ghz, 16 threads, 7nm+
12GB of GDDR6 on 192-bit bus, 330gb/s, 3GB reserved for OS
24 CU at 1400 mhz, 4 teraflops,
1TB SSD at 2+GB/s
$299
XBOX Series X:
8 core Zen at 3.6 ghz, 16 threads, 7nm+
20GB of GDDR6 on 320-bit bus, 640gb/s, 4GB reserved for OS, 1GB extra for full 8k buffer for OS.
60 CU at 1600 mhz, 12.3 teraflops, 7nm+
1TB SSD at 2+GB/s
$499
PS5 prediction from May adjusted with Komachis leaks and other deductions:
8 core zen 3.2+ ghz
16GB GB GDDR6, ~500GB/s 2-3GB reserved for OS
4GB DDR4, 2GB for OS, 2GB for SSD Cache
Navi GPU 36CU, 64 ROPS at 2-2.15ghz, 9.2-9.9 TF
1 TB SSD at 4+GB/s
$399
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Yes only 150 MB/s per core on a modern x86, prepare the ThreadRipper. GPUs are better with it and it is only a 1 GB/s SSD here the faster is the SSD, the more power you need but specialized ASIC are a better solution.
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