Yeh that's certainly an option I guess! But I do hope then that they dont longer too long on current-gen and move the industry forward so to speak.
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Yeh that's certainly an option I guess! But I do hope then that they dont longer too long on current-gen and move the industry forward so to speak.
God I just reread the big HBM argument.
Let's hope February wont break my heart.
Let's hope February wont break my heart.
February will break my heart.
I'm really hoping for HBM just so the consoles are at least somewhat unique even if they're similar on power. Plus I'd like to see HBM prices come down and a product pushing massive volumes will help with that.
It's also a question of volume. The kind of volume Sony is asking for may well be bigger than the entire market is now. It would be a massive undertaking and require spinning up capacity and probably whole new factories.
yea, HBM being in a console will be a strong positive move for the industry. it will mean AMD and NVidia will be more likely to adopt it too and it shows huge potential right now.
Uncompress data from a SSD for streaming is a big task
I don't remember the exact SSD speed but it is probably 1 GB/s or 2 GB/s but it needs a full GTX 980 to follow the SSD speed and a core of an intel i74790 at 3.66 Ghz is too slow to do the job in realtime.
I don't remember the exact SSD speed but it is probably 1 GB/s or 2 GB/s but it needs a full GTX 980 to follow the SSD speed and a core of an intel i74790 at 3.66 Ghz is too slow to do the job in realtime.
Believe.
This is true. I think there would be some issues along the way just because of the sheer scale, but the end result would be beneficial for everyone involved.
SO you have to be a fanboy just because you don't automatically agree with Klee and believe the leaks/speculation
lmao
People always saying everybody's so hostile towards klee but what do you call this? Either you're on the leaked spec sheet from Klee side or you're a damn fanboy. This shit needs to leave the threads
No passthrough, just a HDMI on the back as usual for TV and a second accessible HDMI for headset.
Besides load times or transitions between levels or between fast travels and the speed at which you actually enter the game for the first time, the major benefit of having a game fully designed around an SSD will be in how much and how quickly they will be able to stream different information in for the game to take advantage of in meaningful ways. Trees, geometry, highest quality textures, parts of the world out into the distance, visible enemies.
Hell, it can change the range of enemy detection and how they engage the player possibility in that they may be capable of more complex behavior from much further out distances because the console as well as the SSD can "activate" them faster if that makes any sort of sense. Either way, the worlds should be able to look a lot more rich and dense as a result of an SSD. How you can maneuver through it can likely also be drastically enhanced, as demonstrated by Sony's spiderman demo.
Hell, it can change the range of enemy detection and how they engage the player possibility in that they may be capable of more complex behavior from much further out distances because the console as well as the SSD can "activate" them faster if that makes any sort of sense. Either way, the worlds should be able to look a lot more rich and dense as a result of an SSD. How you can maneuver through it can likely also be drastically enhanced, as demonstrated by Sony's spiderman demo.
I assume they should be able to scale down for current gen consoles, and adjust the game for the capabilities of the older, weaker hardware. I would assume that Halo Infinite can still benefit from all the capabilities of Series X and lockhart without being held back by Xbox One X or Xbox One S and lower.
Right, but at that point why not just put in the USB-C port instead? It's smaller, cheaper (iirc), and eliminates the need to run a second cable for USB. And it might even conform to a VR headset connector standard, and/or possibly even be usable as a regular USB-C port which could come in handy for other things.
I am quoting this bit from your post in particular.
" But start to think about things like bringing a bigger density of life to a world. We know the kind of game Halo is, the kind of detail in there. Think about bringing more density and variety to the light inside its world. Think about not having to create artificial design things to mask some of the limitations of the hardware and just bring things off of the SSD as fast as they're needed on screen."
Yeh it really depends what's the base platform they went for. If its xbox one then all the stuff they talk about is a bit bs. If its indeed Series X then we need a port of sorts for current gen since the game seems more ambitious.
Uh huh, talking about agendas if people don't believe the spec sheet rumor. Pls...
You seem overly hostile/dismissive of one leaker in particular, it's weird.
I'm not hostile at all, actually, just a little peeved every time I come in here I have to read yet another snarky remark that people who aren't convinced of the spec sheet are hiding an agenda.
Surely you can see the irony in that, but hey, carry on and enjoy. I'm moving on.
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People just need to grow up. Most here are probably adults and I'm sure are capable of having mature and respectful conversations. Just report fanboy drivel and move on.
c'mon man..... move on.
You made your point..there is no need to repeat the same stuff over and over again...we already have the thread closed.
I think if everybody just chills out on the snark and allow people to be open about all directions of speculation this thread could be far more entertaining and engaging.
What I really want to hear more about is the rumored dedicated ray tracing cores. I feel we've overlooked these, hard.
I said I was already. Move on.
Yeah it's going to be amazing. Also been thinking about that 0.8 second Spider-Man boot up. It means games can shift from one location to an entirely different one, in real time, in as much as a very short fade to black. Going to be immense seeing what narrative driven games will do with that sort of ability.
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Very true. After the blowback from the PS3 launch, Sony's caution is understandable. For Microsoft, a premium console was the only option. It was the right move. The 900p narrative that dogged the Xbox One for years after launch just had to be changed. The Kinect was such a misstep (one among many).
Very true. After the blowback from the PS3 launch, Sony's caution is understandable. For Microsoft, a premium console was the only option. It was the right move. The 900p narrative that dogged the Xbox One for years after launch just had to be changed. The Kinect was such a misstep (one among many).
I mean its fine not to believe in Klee. I dont believe what Redgaming concluded with the Oberon BC either, but you dont see me bringing him up every time.
After a while, it is snarky because all they do bring up is his name.
(It's way worse on twitter)
After a while, it is snarky because all they do bring up is his name.
(It's way worse on twitter)
I'm certain PSVR on PS5 will require the current breakout box and camera. No way does Sony build legacy PSVR requirements into PS5.
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How do separate ray tracing cores even work? Or rather, tie into the currently rumored cores. Are we talking separate chips? Or software (I guess not since hardware RT has been officially? Thrown around)
Twitter... there's your first mistake. Filled with assholes worse than even here :p
which you wouldnr need because of the SSD - just swap 1-2GB game ram out and use that. You would still need some unified memory for the OS but I think the SSD could remove the need for the separate bank of ram that ps pro uses
I've learned that if you ignore the overzealous people in the thread, it's a more enjoyable experience.
Anyway, with Proven, he always mentions Klee. So much that I just put him on ignore. Not surprised, he mentioned him again, and people just gotten sick of it.
Double edged sword. MS has talked about power so much that if ps5 is ahead (even by a sliver) there will be more of a breakdown. Currently if MS is ahead I think people would be relatively calm
this is talking about Era - normal people out there in the real world wont give a shit either way. Like any enthusiast forum we're in here arguing about the 5% differences
I'd guess you can't have a confirmed HDCP chain if the final display (headset) is not hdmi.
And sony would never want that.
I hope we get Spider-Man 2 but realistically that's probably an E3 2020 thing at the earliest. Still, they chose Spider-Man for the first Wired article so it'd be fitting to show the sequel when you actually reveal the console.
Can't imagine how it'll look AND play on PS5.
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I didn't single anyone out and wasn't even talking about you. It wasn't meant to be hostile in the slightest.
The fact you saw yourself as a Target in my post might be a clue in how you see yourself however. Probably somthing to reflect on I would think.
Sure, that'd work too. Considering the PS4 game was a $40 title and ended up being one of the best looking games of the generation, I'd be interested in seeing how close a PS5 game can get to the movie.
Ha! MS has the power of Energizer Batteries on their side! SonyPoniez am cry!
Lol Ok this got me.
I'm a big fan of Sekiro and think Soulsborne games are decent, but I never really got into Demon Souls. But I'm pretty excited about this (potential) PS5 remake though and I am really interested in seeing how this looks on next-gen hardware simply because of the scale of the fight --
I loved this game. Absolutely stunning.Sure, that'd work too. Considering the PS4 game was a $40 title and ended up being one of the best looking games of the generation, I'd be interested in seeing how close a PS5 game can get to the movie.
It's beautiful. The blargian snagglebeast fight was honestly the closest we've gotten to an animated movie.
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