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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
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Most "insiders" just seem to be piggybacking off of Warren's scoop and then adding their own little twist
No thanks
But that's another Shakespeare reference, presumably named by AMD? Or did Sony just follow suit to AMD naming profiles that were used for both MS and Sony?
This thread reads like everyone looking at what Windows and Warren confirmed and creating specs based on what they want to happen.
Problem with your pastebin is it doesn't jive well with the 7-15 % differential that Matt and Klee have been referring to. A 10.24 vs 12+ is more in the 18 % territory.
On the other hand, a 12.1 vs 12.9 would be, you guessed it, about a 7 % difference. Oh, and both Klee (directly) and Jason (indirectly) have essentially said the 10.24 number is BS (both consoles will be above Stadia numbers). I'd personally want the difference to be as negligible as possible; I'm rooting for a 7 % difference -whichever way it goes! 😊
Either way, these consoles, man... They'll be incredible!!
So according to some posters here Microsoft has already got next gen on lockdown and has a no loose strategy with gamepass and two sku's even before any competitors have shown what they have to offer?
4th times a charm maybe?
4th times a charm maybe?
What's the reason(s) for not believing Gies? Does he have a history of being wrong on stuff like this? I only know him from the Rebel FM podcast
there is absolutely no hints at all that this was a surprise to devs from anything I've read. Schreier, Matt, Gertsmann, Brad Sams, Digital Foundry, etc.
Is there anyone I've missed that said differently.
A better question is why when these random pastebins come out, they still refer to PS5 as Oberon when Prospero has been confirmed by Schreier for months now? My super hot take? Someone leaked something out earlier this year about PS5 and Sony locked down all communications out and have only dripfed the info they want to come out. We have no actual clue what's in the PS5 outside of what Klee may possibly know (and he isn't talking).
It's just too quiet this time around and as much as Cerny has told us about PS5, we still practically know nothing, yet we know almost everything about Series X, moreso with TGA reveal.
The thinly veiled attacks on Klees credibility are endless.
I am sorry, that doesn't make any sense. How are you going to use an SSD for "something else""???
I'd say the two things we know for sure are that:
1. MS is targeting 12TF for XSX from Warren
2. The consoles will be close in power from Jason's interviews with devs
Nothing thin about it, the insane thing is hes not even attacking their brand of console he says its so close it doesn't matter
Don't know about the others, but...
Digital Foundry was surprised. They were on the 12TF GCN train until today.
I've not seen anyone mention this from Tom Warren yet
"Microsoft has been working on SSD tech that allows devs to load larger data structures than the available GPU memory. The address space jump will be very significant, and it will help in terrain mapping and open worlds. VRS then steps in to render the parts that actually matter "
"Microsoft has been working on SSD tech that allows devs to load larger data structures than the available GPU memory. The address space jump will be very significant, and it will help in terrain mapping and open worlds. VRS then steps in to render the parts that actually matter "
Are we seriously going into the teraflops GCN vs RDNA discussion again. Well ok, but in a different way.
Because I wouldnt be surprised if DF was playing it safe (as always, being doubtful when you're reporting doesnt hurt) but the rumors have been 12 teraflops Navi.
You think my comment is an attack? Lmao wut?
i just wanna see all the data dude. Lol
we did, a few pages back. Good stuff. Exclusive games on it and PS5 will be wild.
I've always believed people overestimated Playstation's market leadership position, and I still believe this. So many things went wrong in the lead up to Xbox One that it was at times comical in nature. Xbox 360, even with ps3's missteps, proved that with the right strategy and combination of games to offer people out the gate, xbox can compete and compete very evenly or even beat playstation. Sony and their first party is excellent. They are far from beyond Xbox's reach for legit competition. Xbox did it with the xbox 360 on multiple fronts, jrpg offerings and the like. It was a while before PS3 really started hitting its stride and xbox 360 started to wind down.
For people saying Microsoft is already doing gamepass and xbox one s + xbox one x and sony is still winning, that is not the same thing as entering an entirely new gen with the proper focus, launching with a big gun like Halo, the offering that is gamepass with all those games plus your entire xbox one collection along with BC games available day one. Toss in xcloud and it becomes more interesting. A console that even if it should not have the performance crown, will not be as disadvantaged as xbox one was in likely price or performance. And possibly with a cheaper model available to undercut the competition day one, it can gain momentum even without the higher end model outselling ps5. These things are not as impossible as some think. Microsoft fell into a weakened or down position, but they were never completely out of true contention with playstation. Maybe they were if all you were counting was console sales. We know microsoft needed to do better on first party, but clearly we've seen they've taken serious steps to correct that, and I have faith they will strike true in those efforts.
Lastly, people always underestimate the importance of price to the larger market. They don't all think like us who want the most powerful thing we can buy.
Read your post again. If you can't see how that's an attack, then I don't know what to tell you.
He's said on rebelfm he doesn't know much about the next gen consoles as he's was out of games for a while focusing on finishing his masters of fine arts. However he did recently work directly with Microsoft and the coalition writing a gears book.
It should be noted he sometimes gives warnings when talking about Sony as he has received a lot of threats in the past when the hornets nest doesn't approve. Many on this forum among others have him made out to be a Microsoft fanboy/shill even though he's not. He was a consultant on Spider-Man after all.
Forgive my ignorance re: leaks, but I've gotta ask; if this Klee bloke knows exact numbers, why does he not share them?
GPU/CPU specs guess work is beyond pointless. What they can do with these and SSDs is what we should be discussing not which console is better. Leave that for the DF videos released in a years time.
Apologies. This thread moves so fast I must be missing pages now and again.
Could you imagine how large that would have to be? The surface area required to efficiently cool it would be insane.
It's funny... People are conveniently forgetting about Klee saying both consoles will have double digits tflops and be Navi based - this was when the first Navi GPU's were announced. He said the console GPU's would be more powerful. Give the man the credit he deserves! No one else was saying it! I honestly believe a lot of people will be eating crow for the not so subtle digs at him.
Twitter is full of MisterXMedia types that I'm not surprised. I think it's worse on MS side because of the MisterXMedia forum and following.
Seriously, it's not a dig at any Xbox fans here or anywhere, but while trying to find info on next gen these types are like locusts on twitter.
no worries, you should go back and read it, we had a pretty good discussion (before some decided to be snarky so I just went to sleep). Gofreak did some good posts on how HBCC could help :)
I'd prefer an external brick for both, no matter what. But passive cooling on this scale, you're looking at a bigger and heavier console. Logistics costs would be passed on to us.
That whould be tru if you talk about the USA, in EU, is not even close.
This is super fascinating. I'm wondering if the SSD itself is customized on a hardware level, of it they're using "something else" like ReRAM/Optane 3DXpoint-like solution.
Would eSRAM help at all here?
Someone at 4chan had this rumor that a white Xbox is coming. People are calling it fake (and probably is) but I really like how the box looks like and think the white Series X looks awesome.
Someone at 4chan had this rumor that a white Xbox is coming. People are calling it fake (and probably is) but I really like how the box looks like and think the white Series X looks awesome.
I'm pretty that ripped straight from one of the hundreds of mocks that are being posted on Twitter.
who is no one else? back when Stadia was revealed Jason already said both were aiming to be over 10TF
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