Anyone else been scouring the internet searching for old pre rendered CGI trailers that roughly look like the exact same fidelity as the Hellblade 2 trailer?
AC Brotherhood comes to mind:
AC Brotherhood comes to mind:
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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They won't show there hand early. I think they hope Sony will reveal specs early in the year like they did with PS4 and make last minute changes if necessary.
Quite. He has tried, over and over again, to focus people on what actually matters: the next generation is going to be amazing, and will exceed most people's expectations coming into this year. That's the big news and reason for everyone to come together as gamers to celebrate ... but no. People want to focus on the divisive crap instead, which wasn't what he led with at any time. He let people browbeat it out of him initially and doesn't seem inclined to feed the console warrior hordes one more time. Who can blame him?
It's like winning the lottery only to immediately demand a list of other lottery winners you're now richer than rather than celebrating your good fortune and contemplating how to share it. It's petty and pointless, and a sign of our very divided times.
What's the possibility that XBSX uses multiple chip package layout for CPU and GPU while XBSS uses single chip package for for CPU and GPU?
That case design and talk around it makes me think MS not only wants to emphasize power in the XBSX, but cool it better than the usual set top box design allows.
That case design and talk around it makes me think MS not only wants to emphasize power in the XBSX, but cool it better than the usual set top box design allows.
Man it really feels that a console only needs a GPU sometimes. I still think that both CPU and storage will be the biggest change for the new consoles and I'm looking very forward to it.
Cerny in the tub will come crashing down the stage during the presentation!
About a possible Xbox Series S...
Do people not get that when the likes of Sony or Microsoft commit to enough chips for 10's of millions of consoles they can get extremely good pricing.
Still, we have to remember they didn't show gameplay of Hellblade 2 and I have seen one too many in-engine trailers to be hyped about visuals
This news has shocked the Earth to its core
Yeah, i get the feeling that sony might have some more leeway than MS to come under $499.
One, they said they are making the SSD themselves. Secondly, they were able to create two very cheap and very powerful consoles for less than a $100 compared to MS. Vita was light years ahead of the 3ds in terms of tech with OLED screens and all that, and yet it came in at the same price. Yes, the X1X was the only instance where they were beaten on power, but MS had to wait a year AND spend an extra $100 to get that power advantage.
This might come off as SpinningBirdKick style wishful thinking, but its entirely possible sony gets better prices than MS. Especially if the rumors are true that AMD made Navi for Sony, and that hilarious rumor about Sony getting a good deal on HBM2 chips. HBM2 is the only thing that helps explain the power gap beacuse i think MS is doing their best to push the clocks at the moment. i wouldnt be surprised if Sony goes with 2TB SSD.
Lastly, Sony simply has more skin in the game than MS. Will Satya allow Phil to take a $100 loss? after a bad gen? a massive portion of sony's revenue comes from the PS division. They will be willing to take an additional $50 if their BOM is the same as MS. I've said that its imperative for MS to come in more powerful, but it might also be true for Sony. They need to be more powerful AND cheaper to retain that audience. Any drop in that insane $12 billion a year revenue on PSN alone is going to get shareholders mad.
it's entirely possible they get complacent and launch a weaker and cheaper console, but Jim Ryan himself said hes not going to be complacent.
there is no way MS isnt using vapor chamber cooling. i think the airflow phil talked about is just a precaution to make sure they dont RROD because i have a hunch they are both 200W+ consoles. so we are going back to the PS360 era with high tdps and state of the art machines. the size of the console is the biggest giveaway.
Right when you name you console "series" your bound to have multiple devices. I will not be suprised if we get new Xbox every 2 years or so.
I think there will be 2 mid gen revisions:-
Xbox Series X Pro
Xbox Series S Pro
Didn't many insiders say MS was behind schedule or that they weren't far along in the process of the new system?
They were behind schedule getting devs kits out. Most of the devs already had the target specs though.
No. They said that not that many studios had devkits. Sony was far ahead in that aspect.
Remarkably for a software company, MS tend to really lag on tooling and documentation for their consoles.
Microsoft has it's own schedule that they're confident in. They clearly are not "behind". Behind in my opinion signifies trouble
i thought it was more ms is on schedule but sony is way a head
I completely agree with all of that, but Microsoft has shown in the past how willing they are to take large losses (not specifically Xbox division but company wide). They are also extremely dedicated to moving all of their customers into a subscription based model. I wouldn't be shocked if they are willing to lose quite a bit per console in hopes of making up the loss several years down the road with subscription revenue.
This was always the came. But I wonder, if we'll see Xbox Series E, too.
Like essential just for streaming or some minor stuff.
That's fine if that's your opinion and all, but that's not what "behind" means in this context.
Yeah I'm questioning the sources of some insiders. Seems like so much bullshit when the system is already designed and in Spencer's home.
Pertaining to XSeX:
Does anyone have an idea how they are designing the motherboard? Can they be designed with 90 degree changes in direction? Or is it a tier based design that is interconnected?
Does anyone have an idea how they are designing the motherboard? Can they be designed with 90 degree changes in direction? Or is it a tier based design that is interconnected?
The whole thing for both MS and Sony is a long process that happens in stages.
Sony is "ahead" in that process by having documentation and kits out in the wild, MS is "behind" only in the sense they're just now getting kits to developers.
Microsoft and Sony have two different schedules and ambitions. Now if series x was having yield issues in march then we can start talking.
Not just SSD, Zen2/Navi as well.People sometimes forget almost none of this will be brand new tech in late 2020 and it will be cheaper by then.
Focus on PS5 and it's appropriate hardware/software schedule. Any more questions?
It's not the rigth thread my apologies so I can't in deep but yes Spencer never convinced me at all although the all prize around him. Could be interesting discuss seriously about it avoiding stupid console war.
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I'm giving the poll another hour before I make the new thread!
I wanted to give people a choice, but since I'm the boss now... The new thread will be called hot milk with cereal, it has been decided! 😎
I wanted to give people a choice, but since I'm the boss now... The new thread will be called hot milk with cereal, it has been decided! 😎
He was replying to my post.
And I asked:
To which he replied:
Now, I sorta asked two questions in one here, but I read his "no" as a response to the second part of my question rather than the first.
Now, I'm not saying that this reading is completely definitive, but I feel that it is a perfectly valid reading of his post, don't you?
I think it 100% will be soldered onto the motherboard. So many knock-on cost savings from the 2.5 HDD bay alone. Though expansion is still an outstanding question.
The SSD will be made up of something like 2 512GB/1TB chips + cache chip + controller chip that Sony and Microsoft will secure contracts in the 10s of millions of chips/month. I think favourable pricing is a cert. Also SSDs aren't new tech lets be honest. Tivo/PVRs will be next!
Yep. Just the sheer economy of scale of contracting for multi-millions of chips a month for multiple years is a huge win.
1. AMD was never going to make an entire micro-architecture arch for Sony. This is the rumor that led people to believe that Navi was going to be exclusive to the next gen PlayStation. Where else were Microsoft and Sony going if not AMD? And if AMD was their only choice why not create something and sell it to them for maximum gain?
2. There are things that are traded, but what will determine where a console lands and what it sports is a given company's pain threshold. We live in interesting investment times where shareholder returns and stock valuations are what is key........do not expect that both will be looking to make huge losses for years to come. That pain threshold will always determine where they land when it comes to pricing. If they all have the same CPU, GPU both have SSD..........Sony may go for more SSD, more expensive RAM, but those comes at a cost of potentially not being competitive when it comes to pricing; the one thing that consumers really care about.
3. Businesses look at things in different ways. From history, I can safely state that every company that was playing catch up always took more risks. You can see that with the added investment in studios, Cloud, subscriptions and having all their games on console and PC. That is a company making more investments because they think that this is what will close the gap. What really matters is whether the established player is willing to also make a loss at times to keep market share e.g. in aviation, there are a number of airlines that will fly to a town where they make no money just to ensure that a new competitor goes out of business.
And it doesn't even say PS5/PC exclusive, to me it seems like it's just a Marketing deal
The new thread is on? Are we there yet? Great choice btw!
And a very good one since now everybody is talking about it xD
I just hope we get that PS Meeting with PS5 specs in the next 1-2 months,i am sick and tired of pastebins,rumors,"leaks","more TF", etc. etc. It's exhausting, really time for us to move on from that.
I believe in the context of it was that it is exclusive to next gen
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