I'd say MS is just going a different route. Console sales are not becoming less and less important for Sony and Nintendo.
All it will take is the first next gen only game from a studio like GG or SSM to make the PS4 seem like an afterthought.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
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All it will take is the first next gen only game from a studio like GG or SSM to make the PS4 seem like an afterthought.
Yep at least for next gen .
Gen after next gen it will be less important for Sony .
Still that will be at least 7 years from now .
Of course. What I'm trying to say here is that if the casual gamer gets a good Halo game at 4K/60FPS with some neat bells and whistles, they won't worry about the hypothetical improvements that could have been. Emphasis on the "good Halo game."
This depends entirely on how Halo Infinite turns out, along with the various next-gen only games. If there ends up being a substantial number of PS5 exclusives that are both built heavily around the capabilities of the SSD and properly marketed, it's entirely possible that Halo Infinite could end up appearing underwhelming compared to them. And even if Halo gets away with it by still being a good Halo game, what about all the other games (assuming Scarlett really does get nothing but cross-gen games for a couple of years, which is hardly guaranteed)?
And even then they would still be rather important. Sony has markets in areas that won't be ready for a full streaming takeover. Heck, even places like US won't be ready.
To add to this, people overestimate how big of a franchise Halo is outside the US.
The big problem MS has ww is that most of the properties it has don't appeal much.
I think that is something that would just benefit Sony a lot, but it wouldn't necessarily detract from MS. A high quality Halo game with proper buildup will draw people in regardless of what is around it. Gears 5 pushed Game Pass quite a bit, for example.
With the type of ecosystem MS is building, it is becoming more about quantity. So, even if the majority of their 1st party games are cross-gen, they'll be looked at as just part of a larger whole rather than a specific piece. Of course, as always, the games have to be quality for it to work. They can't release poorly received games.
Just a random question but I figured it's not worth a separate topic.
What's Next-Gen likely to be on the coming consoles? Is it mostly a graphics boost? I've honestly been rather disappointed with the evolution of games over the past few decades. It's like gameplay/mechanics takes a seat behind graphics most of the time. We're still often looking at pitiful AI in games for instance.
What's Next-Gen likely to be on the coming consoles? Is it mostly a graphics boost? I've honestly been rather disappointed with the evolution of games over the past few decades. It's like gameplay/mechanics takes a seat behind graphics most of the time. We're still often looking at pitiful AI in games for instance.
The relatively much more powerful CPU and having a very fast SSD as the new baseline should result into some impressive improvements, but it wouldn't surprise me if the start of the next gen is more a continuation of current late gen games. It usually takes a few years to really see those results. But still, next gen looks to be a way more solid and powerful package than the current gen so I'm optimistic.
Mm for ps meeting could be? That would be cool seeing assasin creed running on the ps5 i think the rumours were that it was cross gen too
Nice, and damn!! And look out, you'll probably get 200 followers and 30 pms after this, lol.
It is cool they are reaching out to universities.with dev kits.
If you can see one and just describe it, no pictures, we'll take that. See if it does or still looks like the rumored dev kit floating around.
AC Vikings. Bring it.
ACIV was a great launch window game for PS4. Having a big open world game like that on day 1 is a big deal to me.
Unlikely because I have very little info to share. It's just what I heard, but sure, if I hear anything else more specific, I'll post it here
Yeah, was brilliant(and cross gen).
I'd prefer both companies went all in on next gen games but I think divergent strategies is best for us customers.
Otherwise we just get 2 near identical boxes with 2 near identical software line ups (which in practice is probably what we'll get anyway, regardless of what they're saying now)
I'd expect we'll see a lot of rumors about Scarlett dev kit specs in the next few weeks. They started going out to more external folks recently, but they're definitely not final kits. Microsoft is also being clever this time to stop leaks, but I'll jump in here if I see anything that lines up to what I've seen and heard.
Are these devkits based on PC parts running the Scarlett SDK?
thank you for hopping by and for future replies.
i was wondering:
a few days ago you said in a tweet " Microsoft won't be doing any Project Scarlett news at XO19 tomorrow afaik. So nothing about 12 teraflops etc", was that just in a reference to the scorpio reveal or is 12TF something you actually heard?
i get the impression that MS seems behind sony as far as dev kits go. perhaps this contributes to why there seems to be a lot more discussion and info surrounding sony than MS and this is about to change as you say
Yeah, I think it is fine for them to explore different routes. It is just that people get caught up in one way being "better" than the other. There are pros/cons to whatever direction the Big 3 go. It is just a matter of which you prefer.
Yes, Klee told us the release was scheduled for 2019. He also told us the plans were scrapped in 2017. Are you suggesting silicon hasn't been touched since then?
Irony. This whole new narrative of your started cause of the cross gen/lockhart discussion.
Don't fall for the bait.
Nice. Can we expect to see more rumors about PS5 dev kit specs as well?
I hope we just get small teases/leaks at this point. The full reveal is just a few months away. We can make it!
The Diablo stuff was for a series of behind-the-scenes content, I believe. Of course, that doesn't rule it out from being at the PS5 reveal or for the PS5 reveal being in February.
"We are working closely with sony on a next generation version" should work in that context + early footage of the next gen version
Revolutionary gameplay is almost never a feature of new hardware and more often than not is introduced by indies and people working far from the tech bleeding edge.
AI is entirely a matter of game design.
January-March is by far my least favorite time of the year (in general, not just gaming). Next-gen reveals would make it much easier to get through.
Actually given the timing it would more likely be current gen kits. Devkits aren't sold when they're in alpha/beta stage, those are loan-only (and 'free'). The purchase becomes available from 1.0 onwards, and that's usually quite close to launch (there were even instances of it happening after launch - like with the PSP).
It gonna be a cross-gen title and not representative of next-gen like Black flag so don't get much hope for it. they just gonna showcase how PS5 is great improving the current-gen game in Native 4K with RT effects and other minor things but it won't have next-gen graphics with new or overhauled engine. I hope to be wrong though.
It's an interesting question - how many 'leaks' were actually there to date. A 100? A 1000?
99% would put the number of non-guess work really low - like we may be talking about a single actual leak (which presumably would be whoever first talked about Lockhart/Anaconda by name, as that's the one thing that is not a guess).
I don't expect next-gen consoels to have final devkits right now for both Scarlett and PS5. Even the leaked PS5 devkit was labeled Prototype I which means there will be at least another before the final devkit which will be distributed after the console reveal and nearing release when the final specs are locked.
Nice, have heard some interesting rumblings surrounding the dev kit rollout and approach.
Even final dev kits are labeled prototype:
I wouldn't be shocked if the leaked 'V' PS5 dev kit was final spec for the RAM/APU but not in other ways like the case. For example it seems the January 2013 PS4 dev kit had two cameras on the front but only one on the final dev kit.
You forget the mention about playing over lte/5g. Negates you're whole idea of it being niche when the experience is to be virtually the same on any mobile device (Android atm in testing)
Sorry, not sorry, but this is very narrow minded and negative way to think that an initiative to bring console quality gaming to people with only mobile devices across the world is niche and basic level stupid.
what else do you downplay because it isn't your thing?
Even final dev kits are labeled prototype:
I wouldn't be shocked if the leaked 'V' PS5 dev kit was final spec for the RAM/APU but not in other ways like the case. For example it seems the January 2013 PS4 dev kit had two cameras on the front but only one on the final dev kit.
The PS5 devkit was clearly labeled Prototype I and not just Prototype (Prototype mostly means this is not a dedicated PS4 or PS5 console so it can not be sold as customer product and it is even highlighted next to that) and if there is something prone to change for the final hardware then its the GPU clock and/ or the RAM amount and this happened for both PS4 (doubled VRAM) and XB1 (increased GPU clock) so this is mostly not the final devkit that was leaked.
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