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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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It seems the relation between Sony and Remedy are getting more and more solid.
Remedy will be one of the best company to showcase RT on PS5. I wonder how far their partnership can go: from an exclusive game to fully getting owned by Sony as first party is not ruled out.
Agree, but that is a big difference in usability and one of the reasons it "may" have been a closer competition. Imagine MS having less graphical prowess, but the ability suspend and resume but PS4 did not as just one example. I could easily see people saying "i'll give up a few blades of grass in "grassgate" to be able to get in and out of games in seconds.
It was always a spin. There's no way they could say that they couldnt do what their competitor does.
In fact, I was very impressed that Shu decided to fess up that the reason why changing your name on the PSN was very difficult, because their database system was shit.
Even now after they managed to do it came with its own bizzare caveats.
Who wants to play old games ranks right up there with rumble is so last generation. It was spin, and now that they have BC for PS4 its important.
That interview is still misinterpreted. The Sony representative (Ryan?) specifically talked about Gran Turismo series. It's pretty much the same as saying, who'd want to play PS1/2 versions of FIFA now, instead of the newer and improved sequels.
Since Matt and Zhuge are in this thread, can we get a date on the PS5 reveal conference? i dont want to wait until PSX to get a glimpse of next gen games.
For things to run the same on both imo would mean MS is building the best local experience it can do that people who would subscribe to their cloud service would get an equally next gen experience on their phone/tablet, would make the service more enticing.
Nah, cross platform for the beginning of the gen is different. This will be such a good thing for both systems.
It's probably the best way to smooth the transition between generations. My only wish is that hopefully this doesnt mean that there wont be an exclusive next gen first party game for some time, and that the importance of cross platform only lasts 2 years, max.
That's exactly the context it was offered, the actual spin came from people misrepresenting it for their own needs.
Like this.
It's important now because they have a massive active userbase, huge subscriber numbers, and they want to make the transition into another generation as easy as possible for every one of those people to stay with them. It's that simple.
If both consoles are in fact using HW accelerated RT I don't expect them to half-arse it. There's very little point in adding RT capabilities unless you're adding enough of it to make it worth your while.
I don't expect full blown, picture-perfect RT GI of course, but I expect it to be capable of good quality RT in at least 1 or 2 fields of visual RT at any given time (AO, Shadows, GI, Reflections for eg.).
Given AMD's propensity towards fine-grain compute and general purpose, I'm hoping their solution is flexible in its capabilities.
I don't expect full blown, picture-perfect RT GI of course, but I expect it to be capable of good quality RT in at least 1 or 2 fields of visual RT at any given time (AO, Shadows, GI, Reflections for eg.).
Given AMD's propensity towards fine-grain compute and general purpose, I'm hoping their solution is flexible in its capabilities.
ninja Gaiden black and ninja Gaiden 2 4k@60 tho
a good game is a good game I really love the possibility to play old games from time to time.
Yep, and they've only confirmed backwards compatibility with PS4 so far. Based on that, you still wouldn't be able to play those old PS1/2 Gran Turismos he was talking about. Convenienrly, the gotcha narrative looks past that as well.
I've not even watched the video but I believe the description sources are the same mrxmedia et al conspiracy theories about rdna and all that?
The thing is, virtually every single thing a representative of a company will say in an official capacity is "spin" in one way or another. It's literally their job to present their products in the best light possible. Even if it seems like they are being honest about failings, that is usually a calculated choice to make consumers feel like they are open and trustworthy.
That's not intended as an insult to any company representatives. They are just doing their jobs, and ultimately we're all talking about toys here. But anything a company rep says should be treated with a critical eye.
That is a good point. Especially if you are planning on trading your old console but want to keep a couple of games
The funny thing about this is, you guys know for a fact that he was talking about ps1 games. in some sense he is right who would want to play those games in an age like this? When this was being talked about the guy was speaking on himself playing Gran Turismo, and how bad it looked. Ps4 games are not really old either, and the best way to move people from Ps4 to Ps5 would be making sure you at least have BC for ps4 games, so people can carry them over
100% agree, but I'm sure you can agree that some spin feels worse than others and that there are cases where saying nothing at all is better than bad spin. MS saying "we have a console for people who cant be online, its called the 360" or Sony saying they are "looking out for the children" when not allowing cross play. It's all salesmanship, but it doesnt always have to feel dirty..... at least in my opinion.
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Microsoft switching from a 2 SKU to 1 SKU strategy is somewhat reminiscent of them switching from a media box to a game focused box last gen. Of course them changing their plan this early is much much better than changing year 2 but it doesn't exactly Inspire confidence in there ability to Envision and enact on their platform plans. This kind of shift is not a small thing and compared to Sony's very clear and focused approach Microsofts position in the market is reflective of their ability to execute on clearly established plans.
All I'm going to say as someone who has been reading this thread as a Silent in looker is that there are a subset of Xbox fans who are absolutely insufferable and, as a result, habitually run folks with any modicum of insight off of these forums when they say something they don't like. It's happened in sales threads and it's happened in HW speculation threads. Y'all know who you are. Stop this nonsense. Stop taking every single thing that you don't like as some sort of affront to your personal self worth. Grow the hell up.
And before y'all both sides this comment I'm well aware there are folks who are obnoxious in all fandoms but from what I have seen here on this forum only a select few have been so infuriatingly immature and petty to drive people away and then turn around and literally celebrate it.
And before y'all both sides this comment I'm well aware there are folks who are obnoxious in all fandoms but from what I have seen here on this forum only a select few have been so infuriatingly immature and petty to drive people away and then turn around and literally celebrate it.
I didn't see any choice but to duck out for a few days. That was not healthy. Glad to see Matt and Zhuge setting the record straight on a lot of things.
Agenda clear within first 30 seconds. Verifiable false technical information in the first 2 minutes. Standard YouTube gaming channel.
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Utter nonsense doesn't even begin to adequately describe that Colt video (not because it supposes that Scarlett might be more powerful, which is entirely possible) but because it presents this as 'objective' fact by assumptions that are so fundamentally wrong or unlikely that it is pure wishful thinking. Or just ignorant fanboyism. Pick your poison.
If anything this makes it more of the truth that the ps5 will be more powerful than the next xbox based on that Colt guys rep. Those guys never get anything right. E3 was their biggest blunder. lol
Oh of course. Just like anything, there are people and companies that are better and worse at "spinning."
It's just always good to keep in mind that these reps aren't your friends, and don't have your interests at heart.
Yh, I think this all started due to someone saying something about either of these companies making engineering mistakes and used the OG XB1 and PS4pro as examples. And the person was saying something to the effect of hoping it doesn't happen again with the next gen consoles. I was just trying to point out that what most may refer to as engineering "mistakes" (XB1 using DDR3 or PS4pro not being higher than 4TF and loud) were not mistakes at all. And were actually a reflection of these companies doing the best with what they had ad to meet their targets so in effect people shouldn't worry about next-gen consoles to that effect.
While I can see the logic in that school of thought, I tend to disagree. I will not say there isn't some truth to it at all, yes; XB1 was designed as a media center and having as much RAM as possible was paramount to that target, however, I lot leaves to be said when you consider that the PS4 ended up with a RAM reserve equivalent to the XB1. Maybe my perspective is skewed somewhat though because I have seen android TV boxes with 3GB of RAM whose general versatility runs circles around either the XB1/PS4. Whatever the case though, the XB1 was not an engineering mistake.
Anyways, I'm gonna drop this lol.
I was being funny. I just posted because it seem relevant.
You've been around here a LOT the past few days. Just waiting for someone to drop the right question?
When Phil said that he was referring to the current xCloud offering in testing, which is based on Xbox One S hardware. So of course a game is going to play locally better on an Xbox One X. Phil also said, very clearly, that "Project Scarlett and all of its power and all of its performance is the foundation of our future in console and the formation of our future in cloud." So, aligning the hardware in both the datacenter and what's under your TV means xCloud is about to get far more powerful. It now depends how long it takes Microsoft to move from Xbox One S hardware to Scarlett hardware in its datacenters, and that will probably depend on how fast Google moves with Stadia etc.
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Ahhh nvm!
Matt,do you think there will be some big event (PSX/PS Meeting/whatever) later this year for 25th PS anniversary or we shouldn't expect anything from them till 2020?
MS already announced X019 in London in November.
Was around during E3, and now on a staycation.
I'll be slipping away soon enough.
Can you at least share your thoughts on next consoles? Am talking about your thoughts and speculation and not leak data.
What's your expectations? :)
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