Hopefully mid gen refresh.
I like that more than a 2 sku, powerful/weaker launch.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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I like that more than a 2 sku, powerful/weaker launch.
I'm definitely not calling him a "liar" nor was this my intention. I replaced it with "like you said", if the semantics are a problem. The question remains.
Imagine being so full of shit with a crappy track record (especially if you consider all the off-site shit they spew) and then calling out someone as a pretender who rarely gets anything wrong if at all. Imagine that.
To be fair I think the word was meant to be present? Rather than pretend? English not being Klobrille's native language?
Sure, but I think the assumption is (at least from my part) that the Anaconda would have been a distinctly premium, and thus much more expensive console. It could still be that, or they could keep the same specs, but lower the price by a hundred bucks or whatever, but I believe those options are less likely.
This is disheartening....
Really thought axing Lockhart would cause them to go balls out with Anaconda and throw it all into that.
Hopefully this is still the case somehow.
Semantics are always a concern. Its the difference between doubt and accusation, which is similar in foundation but worlds apart in feeling.
Also, it's basic civility - which is easily lost on forums/twitter/etc.
i remember you saying in march that MS was aiming to match Sony on the price and performance with the Anaconda version. to me, that would indicate a $499 console. Not a $599 console that can be downgraded to a $499 console by changing to a much cheaper APU or less ram/ssd etc.
i guess my question to you is if you ever heard MS wanting to go over the $499 price tag. or was matching sony always the plan?
Yeah after thinking a little bit more about it, I figured that out, too.
And with the new development regarding the 2 SKU strategy it makes even more sense.
There is nothing precluding Scarlette from still coming out computationally on top.
on the contrary. with lockheart gone, their sandwich strategy (having a less expensive AND more expensive console than the ps5) no longer makes sense. now they HAVE to match sony on the price and do their best to match on the performance.
think about it, how can they or Sony for that matter, go with a bigger and better APU AND more RAM or more RT hardware without breaking the bank? both of them are essentially going with the same exact parts with the only exception being the type of ram.
lol im dying here. surely this might get him perma'd here no? whats happening in this thread today. its only a random thursday lol.
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Yeah I actually think these consoles might be the most similar we've seen yet....in components, price, etc.
Says the middle aged dude with a family. lolz
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Or they just keep it as is and take the hit. Both are options.
Just yesterday, on this very thread I stated that it seems like plans change a lot when it comes to gaming. PS4 RAM doubling, Xbox One clocks going up, Microsoft choosing to change plans and have Project Scorpio launch a year later, the Xbox 360 going from 256MB RAM to 512MB, Sony choosing a different setup for the PS3 GPU. And you could go even further out to a time when Sony was looking to work with Nintendo on a console in a deal that cratered, that allowed Sony to come in and dominate gaming as a singular company.
This one thread is one of the most emotional I have seen on this site (there are some that rival it), but there isn't another thread where so much is often taken way off context.
I personally never thought that we would get to a position where we are arguing not about whether information was right or wrong, but whether it was relevant when it was posted.
No one is even debating that what he posted was right or wrong, but the timeline in which it was posted. It is a bad look.
I honestly do not mind some of the insider information we get that pans out at a time when there is so much fake stuff rolling around. If we start calling out people for misinformation when these things can take time to confirm, or people can choose different times when to share, or simply find out things later.....then it becomes a dick wagging contest on who knew what and when.
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What is Microsoft trying to do? Match Sony on price and beat them on performance.
I would be surprised if either Sony or Microsoft knows what they will price their consoles at, do they have target price points? Yes. But they dont have a final BOM from AMD/partners yet to know what it will cost to build this these consoles.
It's still the very early days of actually building hardware, lots will change between know and fall of 2020.
Ain't that dignified. Goes to show that this place's ToS is strict for a reason. If he tried this same shit here, the ban would be notably longer.
I thought Thuway is brit.
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At this point, they've got a good idea of the expected BOM... A year and change out, they're already planning on the production line.
Production, packaging, shipping, takes months.
Well hardware-wise, not much will change between now and fall of 2020.
Why would it? It was in poor taste, sure, but I was under the impression that we aren't even allowed to post user's Tweets in the first place. Of course that may have been a rule at the old house instead, kind of hard to remember really.
Is this why the lead architect for Scarlet left for Intel? Probably didn't want his work to be thrown out and patched just to catch up to Sony - 2 generations in a row!
~6 months of Surface hardware, would expect the same for Xbox.
Hmm. SoC silicon is probably locked, memory type if not quantity is likely to be locked, storage solution the same.
Assuming a November launch, manufacturing testing will be around March to May with production starting around July/August.
So we're talking 6 to 9 months for 'lots to change'.
Yup... So I would expect final/production spec to be nailed down within the next 6-8 months.
I'm not insulting you but I'm am curious for the answer to that question? Why not debunk it though?
Phil has been clear about this during their E3 conference (that behind the scenes dev talk). I think VRR will come into play but they have very clearly stated that the next gen standard is 4K60fps. Even Brad Sams second to last video, covered earlier heavily emphasized that aspect when he drew comparison to performances available on PC.
Personally, I really dislike PR pushing BS regardless of what company. If Sony comes out and says the same thing next year, it would indicate that perhaps it is going to be the standard across the board.
Hey, they said it. "Power and performance you can see and feel....", "Frame rates and resolution like we have never seen before...". Feel free to drink their koolaid or not, I think skepticism has its virtue.
Sony did the same thing with PS3 back in the day with very special math from nVidia claiming 2TF among other things.
Wait. A mod insider knew it all along? Then what was the point of the last 6 months. Could have saved people from wasting so much time the last 6 months.
As someone who railed against it since the debut of its rumor, I'm still not sure why anyone cared for the concept lol
Oh. Well I'm sure you'll have no shortage of people willing to call them out regardless of what they do. I don't recall Phil promising that every 1stP game would be 4k/60 but I also don't care enough to click a link if provided, let alone go looking for it. Thanks for the follow up though!
You mean like " The only thing you gonna hear is 1080/60 on PS4? Or 4K gaming on pro and X? Hold them accountable? LMAO.
That could apply to a lot of stuff though. Think of all the video game speculation. Do you think it would be reasonable to expect them to clear up everything just because they know about it?
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