~25% iirc.
He has.
His last few posts sound like someone making their way through the 2nd stage of grief. People are taking this way too seriously.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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~25% iirc.
He has.
His last few posts sound like someone making their way through the 2nd stage of grief. People are taking this way too seriously.
Never mind next gen games being designed for SSDs and what not.
Gonna be a tall order for Nintendo/Switch 2.
hey, non-heated question here: seeing a lot of people say the difference will be small. if the way weve talked about flops in the past is kind of misleading, and a smaller amount of flops could mean more power in the right context, doesnt that mean that ps5 having a few more flops would be an exponentially bigger difference?
like, if these flops mean more than old flops, having more of them should mean more. does that make sense?
like, if these flops mean more than old flops, having more of them should mean more. does that make sense?
So your going to take THAT quote as fact? Isn't that his opinion that he believes it will be more powerful? How would Matt Booty know but not Phil SPencer?
They use these CGI trailers to drop hints, the RAM chips model number was there for a reason :)
If my thinking is correct, no, because they're within the same paradigm. This would only hold if PS5 were Navi and Xbox Scarlett was Polaris or Vega or whatever.
Dude.. No one is taking his quote as fact lmao. We're talking about the marketing and wondering why they're confident Anaconda is going to be more powerful.
Technically speaking, it doesn't, since we can displace non-essential aspects of the OS to make space for debug memory. Like, the consumer kit can load netflix and a game simultaneously, but developers don't need to load netflix while we're making games. So that memory is available for all the extra instrumentation data that makes development versions more bloated than the shipping runtime. Like we have various maps that reverse can convert hashes back into strings or guids for debugging. Those maps don't need to exist in the shipping runtime. We may use some of that debug memory for live edit features as well.
ok thank you, this is helping me better wrap my head around how these specs interact with each other
Kobrille or something? Some document which allegedly said MS wanted the most power? I'm not 100% sure on this.
They aren't confident, they can't say. Otherwise Phil would have come out saying it at e3 where all eyes are on them. They don't know, ps5 could come ahead it could not.
Come on man there was a thread here the day after wired article of ps5 linking to MS insiders claiming anaconda is stronger than ps5. From klobre to agies tweet (spelling)? All were echoing that sentiment
Apologies for the total off-shoot on the topic here... What is happening in the two pictures? What are their sources?
This is how I feel right now. Have things always been this heated? I ususally stop by every once in a while.
If Lockhart and anaconda were to both come out, lockhart would be the one to sell for a loss while anaconda would be priced for profit. They wouldn't both be selling at a loss. You charge a premium for a premium product to make up losses you would be taking on a cheaper product.
That would only matter if they were different architectures.
on the contrary. Ps5 is likely more powerful because of the 1.8 ghz clockspeeds achieved likely due to them going with low power hungry hbm2+ddr4 which should be much cheaper bom wise than 24 gb of gddr6 ram.
I think both will be the same price but bom will be slightly cheaper if they go with hbm2.
Trying to ascribe sales lead to a single factor is like trying to narrow an election win down to a single constituency. It's a fool's errand.
That being said, Xbox 360 had a more powerful GPU and was the domestic sales winner. PS4 had a more powerful GPU and is the domestic sales winner. Xbox One X has the better GPU and reportedly outperforms the PS4 Pro in sales. So I'd say the data directly contradicts your conclusion, despite the best efforts of your typeface.
The rebuttal to the rumor of PS5 being the more powerful system doesn't make much sense. Particularly the "Microsoft wants Scarlett to be the most powerful" and the "Microsoft executive thinks Scarlett will be more powerful" arguments. Neither Microsoft or Sony knows what each other are doing when it comes to hardware, so why is the "Microsoft wants to be the best" used as evidence against the GI claim? Of course Microsoft wants to have the technically superior system as it would be good and effective marketing ammo against the competition. Sony did the exact same thing before the X1X came out. Neither of them know so they wouldn't confirm until both machines are shown off.
Console market is not that way. For premium spec manufacturer has to pay to make the jump. It's not like phone market.. having 12 tf of navi with 24 gb gddr6 at 499 needs more loss than 4 tf of navi with 12 gb gddr6 at 350$
the top is the panel for the adult video convention kidding! i dont know and the bottom is from a movie called green street hooligans during a fight scene between gangs
Didn't someone already post that statistically, pro would be outselling oneX something like >2.4:1?
I know when I was buying my pro and x, they both cost about the same even though it was more than a year after the pro released. You think that based on sales of xbone and percentage of expected x sales, x would hold its price. Not the other way around.
So you think Xbox will be more powerful no matter what?
Xbox marketing fed these insiders due to insider saying Ms sent them a file explaining how Xbox will be more powerful.anyways I know where u r going with the whole nothing official was announced from MS marketing but message they fed their insiders is telling different story . They could have avoided all this with not focusing on this aspect
Perhaps. It's of less important than the main platforms anyway.
Taking a short break from this toxic environment.
Its like kindergarten in here. People losing their collective shit over a rumour that PS5 may be the more powerful next gen console. I wish we didn't know the Reiner tweet. All was fine and dandy when PS5 was believed to the inferior one.
Its like kindergarten in here. People losing their collective shit over a rumour that PS5 may be the more powerful next gen console. I wish we didn't know the Reiner tweet. All was fine and dandy when PS5 was believed to the inferior one.
I seriously don't know what you're doing. Some people in here are seriously need to stop reading shit that isn't there. No where did I say that lol.
And some people are reading books from Reiner's tweets lol.
That tweet really struck a nerve and nothing has been confirmed yet. It's gonna be a real shit show if it's true.
Parent comment was regarding Xbox and Playstation platforms.
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have you not been reading this thread since OT1? its been garbage
a place full of passive aggressive dorks
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Sorry, it's just so hard to tell when it's sarcasm or not.
Not sure what you've seen. The most substantial happenings are that Matt confirmed both PS5 and Anaconda have hardware RT, and Andrew Reiner he heard from devs that the PS5 is more powerful than Scarlett in terms of flops. People are currently losing their minds over the latter.
A speculation thread 2 years out from the consoles launching is going to lead to idiocy, especially once it combined both platforms. I'm actually surprised this thread is even allowed.
PS4 outselled xbox one more than 2:1 but people here are like 4:1 microsoft supporter. Little strange ;)
Why are people losing their minds over the latter? What's the reason?
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