The high crest of Ambo Naitë looks ever to the light.
Your math is off. No matter RT hardware size, 320mm^2 would leave zero room for it, as that whole area is already consumed by 70mm^2 Zen 2 plus the RT-less 251mm^2 5700XT. In fact, it leaves less than zero room, because 5700XT has no CUs disabled for yield. Getting to 40 active CUs on a console chip will require even more space.
But wouldn't both MS and Sony ask what they can do with a more expensive APU? Although I guess MS was already probably paying this much for the X when it released. But I get what you say now, I thought at first their was a price delta in your explanation.
the other issue is the xt has a 220 tdp, not useable for a apu. the 5700 is, but thats 8tfps. even if you remove board power, my gues is still around 200tdp for the xt.
I wonder what it'll be like, are they just gonna have some dedicated CUs dedicated like you say that could be used for something else if the developers so desire? I don't think we'll see everyone using raytracing anyway.
I was trying to find it for you but its original throwaway account post has been deleted. Fortunately anex saved it:
i have been trying to think about this leak again, and there was something that always felt off for me and i wasnt sure what... now i think i know:
no way that they are going to use bad chips as their plan, how much of those can they even get?
That part was always interesting to me as well.
raytracing only for reflection and some sort of light shaft i mean.
Oh I understood it, it was just wrong and I wanted to explain you the basic concepts why. Your original statement would only be true if for each clock all stream processors would be utilized to 100% for all clock cycles. But this is something that will never happen and In result the statement you made will never be true. There are even two slides in the AMD slide deck that shows you that. Those are the slides 14 and especially slide 15. They call it "effective throughput" while I called it "efficiency".
That's one of the few leaks I actually believe. I am not all in on his reasoning, but I have got a feeling he's onto something.
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Or the interceding design was cancelled.
5700XT boost clock is 1905 MHz. That 1800 MHz figure for Gonzalo can be it's maximum boost clock for all we know, with typical gaming clock being significantly lower, around 1650 MHz.
Sure it could, but we have no precedent for boost/game clocks in consoles.
We do have a precedent of pretty much all GCN designs running on clocks below the specified boost / max though.
Okay I realise I asked it in a dumb way but I think you know what I was asking.
I found this slide (taken with a nice dose of salt of course) which answers it for me:
I therefore revise my guess to 8-9TF for the consoles.
Same - they should focus on 60 fps instead with these new CPUs and throw as much GPU in there as they can for that 60.
