Durango and Orbis codenames in January 2012, complete specs for both in January 2013.
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Orbis leak
Durango leak
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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Durango and Orbis codenames in January 2012, complete specs for both in January 2013.
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Orbis leak
Durango leak
5700 is $379. Probably 5700 Lite?
They need to allocate space for Ray Tracing.
yeah, there's always that chance.
I would think the introductions to both companies were made by each respective PR teams though, but I'm going to outright say that doesn't mean I'm rejecting there's a possibility Microsoft's collaboration with AMD is much more significant than Sony. Everything is still up in the air.
XB O X even had near complete specs and Tflop count a year and half before release.
Seems things are different now with these next-gen consoles since literally every component in them is new technology even the motherboard tech and things need to be teste , checked and tweaked a lot further before the final decision.
He got banned for the same shit on gaf and rightfully so. Was suprised he was even holding up that long.
Comparing which card (well technically the GPU chip) forms the foundation of next gen console is less about price and more about features that is part of future proofing it for usage over their lifespans especially. None of the cards showed off yesterday featured any HW RT solutions.
And now I am wondering whether the upper end cards will feature it or whether MS and Sony and AMD partnered with another tech company to integrate HW support for said feature in their SoCs.
Kayle, is that you?no way there is microsoft gave chance to a sony be the Performance Leader I more trust in the BIG hint phil spencer do at them conference then a only tweet exciting unconfirmed (first party haha lol) developers they can call fanboy because I chose to believe vp head of xbox insted of random change of narrative anonymous sources
I present my evidence:
when vp spencer take the stage in announce crossfire he was only not announce new game but teasing the incredible work see will from Panay just think about it panay has added crossfire to P R O J E C T S C A R L E T T anaconda (the true performance leader( will actually is 2 lockearts in crossfire just about think it makes much sense and why not I believe just the words of journalist when it benefits PS5 change of narrative Xbox having crossfire locks the definatevly superior console to sony because you will link many xboxes using crossfire with deep partnership with doctor lisa shu and panos panay )))
Can people stop saying this? Matt said this and Matt said that. I feel like people are saying this because they can't entertain the idea that NextBox has something that PS5 won't have. And i think Matt is speculating on this subject as well.
I doubt Sony planned for a 2019 launch. The whole point of the mid-gen console was to help soften the blow of another long generation. Then there are their big titles that are still to be released. Then as we approached, the timeline on when advancements in place can line up with cost started to put 2020 even more into line.
Having broken English doesn't mean that you have to use a minimum of 3 ellipses with every comment you make, to be fair ^^
ok, so we have to wait until Fall to have more definitive info. thanks
The consoles will be based on Navi. They are each their own instantiation of Navi, like the 5700 is. The 5700 gives us an idea of Navi's core performance per watt that you could try to extrapolate from. Navis next year, including console Navis, might be a bit different to Navis this year - in terms of, for example, the inclusion of RT stuff - but I'm guessing the core thermal and wattage characteristics won't be hugely different next year. So the 5700 is probably a good guide on those lines. I think it's clearer to say, though, that each of these parts, be it console or PC, are based on Navi, rather than one part being based on another part. Each is a distinct part, and the 5700 and XT gives us a first idea of what an instance of Navi can be like.
I think this is unwarranted seeing that he was clearly a non-native english speaker. Shame on you.
I for one I'm sad to see him gone even if I had him on ignore for more than a year now. I guess he already caught a month-long ban before. O well
Why ?
Matt has been giving info since Gaf days for years .
He has a proven track record and he does not mice words .
uhhh.. doesnt titanfall 2 supersample above 4k on the X right now? dynamically, but has resolutions over 4k?
"To quickly recap, our first hands-on with the Xbox One X upgrade did confirm that Respawn has deployed dynamic super-sampling technology - which can, in theory, scale resolution beyond 4K pixel-counts in order to keep the Scorpio Engine's six teraflop GPU fully tapped out.... "
so we have seen it already. Is it perfect? No, but it will happen with these next machines. count on it. 120fps is also up to the developer, too.... Talking in absolutes before the machines are even out is stupid af imo.
Forgive me I'm a noob in these things and don't browse this thread regularly but how much Tflops does Navi translate into in Vega's? Also didn't Jason say that both were aiming for above 10.7 so where are these sub 10 flops expectations coming from?
I think that the new GPU's from AMD are said to be max 9.7 tflops or something to that effect. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Damn is the same grammar, isn't it?
I think 1 Navi = 1.25 Vega
Regarding Jason's statement they could aim for 10.7 but fall short 10% and end up being 9.75.
But at the end of the day, does it matter really if it's 11TF or 10TF?
They talked about how much in theory could they render, but iirc in game it doesnt surpass native 4k, but they cant output over a 4k resolution, they can only render above it and downsample, with hdmi 2.1 support they can output in over 4k resolution.
For now it doesn't. Which info is most reliable: an info from an insider who knows crap about PS5 or tweet from a well known journalist who talked with devs which work on both systems?
Funny thing is that he said he will buy the most powerful system out there next year, whichever platform it would be in the end, yet he lost his mind after Reiner's tweet.
I agree that those statements by Lisa Su yesterday at E3 were likely provided by both Sony and Microsoft, but that is kind of the point that I was making. Microsoft is not shying away at all from putting out the clear message about this co-engineering approach and even "ultimate gaming experience" goal in what Lisa said yesterday. In fact the official Project Scarlett page on the Xbox site says "Project Scarlett will set a new bar for console power, speed and performance". So Microsoft is definitely not shying away from their goals with Project Scarlett in their messaging so far.
Oh yes, I completely forgot about titanfall 2. One thing to remember that X and Pro run games designed to run on base console with feature parity with higher resolution.
Are we truly expecting next gen games with never before seen fidelity in console space featuring RT usage (depends on which devs implement it and to what extent) to run at resolutions beyond 4K natively or be run at 120fps? As a reminder I did mention there being exceptions (so no, I do not speak in absolutes) but assuming that these numbers will be reflected in big budget traditional AAA titles feels thoroughly unrealistic.
Thank you. That sounds very reasonable. Can you speculate whether limiting the GPU to 40 CUs provides area for something akin to Turing cores?
No. The Naught Dog Dev confirmed this a while ago. So no people will not stop saying that. Obviously Matt knows something.
Best part is consoles need to reduce clock for thermals, allocate space for CPU and HW RT cores. Without console restrictions, vanilla 5700 is 7.95 TFlops, which could be the best a console can reach.
Pretty sure he never confirmed anything and he only assumed
It's all just rumors at this point. And most powerful doesn't necessarily mean best performing.
God damn, you've done it. You've asked the question aloud. Prepare for another 10 pages of pointless banter😉
Yeah, rumours surely. But one is more reliable than other
I know it game.... but it also secret code from panay and spencer to xbox family can be confident we are Performance Leaders we can make our own SKU... remember xbox said they invented something new for there conference... something new... panos panay, phil spencer under direction of nadella and unprecedented partnership with doctor lisa shu invented crossfire... exclusive to project scarlett ... power is important to xbox and MS for next generation... no way they allow sony to be undisputed performance leaders... inventing crossfire for console ensures the dominance of the teraflops and gives choice to gamers...
you can call a fanboy but then we also have:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/9yr10p/next_gen_consoles_in_crossfire/
https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2019/2019/06/09/crossfire-x-blasting-onto-xbox-one-first
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/aoswrw/future_of_crossfire_and_navi/
seriosly people on these topic underestimate the monster that is Microsoft of a company... like lego, not, like minecraft, scarlett will be the building block of new era of gaming...
also not related totally... people in this topioc insult people with broken english.... but I preffer get broken english than broken heart...
Who to trust.
Journalist talking to devs, or
Guy who claimed GPU decompression is being used in PS5 SSD while not having PS5 info but also having PS5 info.
Kayle? Kind of strange to see you only start posting after he got banned.
Reiner himself said it was a rumor. And what hmqgg has said doesn't really contradict what Reiner heard. It's possible one is more powerful but the other performs better.
Reiner called it a rumor because he spoke with devs and that is, according to him, what others have heard as well. But it's obviously not a fact at the moment.
hmqgg doesn't know anything about the PS5. Let's stop pretending like he does. This threads fascination with fake insiders is a bit too much.
He said he heard it directly from DEVELOPERS working on next gen games
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Hey truth of Kaylee .shame to see ur other account getting banned .....yea ur dots gave u away .....haha .keep it cool so this account also doesn't get banned
How is he a fake insider? He clearly has inside info on at least the Xbox side.
Just when we were getting back on track. There is so much fodder for speculation that goes unexplored. I can't even comprehend what on earths name you are fighting about at the moment.
no way there is microsoft gave chance to a sony be the Performance Leader I more trust in the BIG hint phil spencer do at them conference then a only tweet exciting unconfirmed (first party haha lol) developers they can call fanboy because I chose to believe vp head of xbox insted of random change of narrative anonymous sources
I present my evidence:
when vp spencer take the stage in announce crossfire he was only not announce new game but teasing the incredible work see will from Panay just think about it panay has added crossfire to P R O J E C T S C A R L E T T anaconda (the true performance leader( will actually is 2 lockearts in crossfire just about think it makes much sense and why not I believe just the words of journalist when it benefits PS5 change of narrative Xbox having crossfire locks the definatevly superior console to sony because you will link many xboxes using crossfire with deep partnership with doctor lisa shu and panos panay )))
Yea everyone just keep confirming what Matt said, so that people are informed. Not sure why people are in here upset over what Matt has confirmed. Like i said before even the Naughty Dog Dev confirmed it.
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