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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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I had heard they would mention teraflops during the teaser video, but it seems they're keeping their cards close.
Hmm maybe they did! Anyone check for Morse code in the blinks during the video?
I wonder why Microsoft didn't announce the number of CPU cores. Maybe that's Anaconda's "secret sauce"? 12 cores, 24 threads??
what if it's less than 8 cores 🤔
You are underselling what the XB1X did.
- 4CU more
- wider bus
- higher bandwidth
- 4GB more RAM
- and also powered a CPU, BR drive, HDD, cooler and USB ports.
Especially when any likely difference will be ~15% or less either way. It really doesn't matter for anything more than PR and marketing. It will be far smaller than the differences between the OG consoles this gen or the mid gen refreshes.
Both consoles are getting fast SSDs, RT hardware and Zen 2 which will be huge factors in determining how games run, look and play. Both consoles will likely be essentially identical in this regard. A 10-15% variation in GPU will boil down to a handful of frames (at best) that are imperceptible to anyone other than Digital Foundry.
I think it will be 8 cores 16 threads for both consoles.
Seems very likely, just curious why they didn't announce it. Sony kind of presented them a good opportunity by just announcing the number of CPU cores, but not the number of threads. So it would have been very easy for Microsoft to one-up them with new info:
Sony: 8 cores
MS: 8 cores, 16 threads
...but they didn't. A bit strange imo.
Yep, both consoles would probably differ very little in terms of power.
The meltdowns has been very fun to read, but think the performance difference wouldn't matter much at all.
I guess his point was that X wasn't as power hungry as a RX 580.
But my point, and perhaps yours too, is that the 5700 XT being 180w TDP doesn't spell doom and gloom for next gen consoles
Any idea about the rumor of Playstation 5 Devkits being more powerful?
And are you privy to the fact that PS5 had 2 different devkits due to a rethink?
Thanks for your work.
No, just saying the comparison is not perfect to gauge the power draw.
But next gen consoles will have more CUs, a wider bus, higher bandwidth and RAM again.
So one should expect the clocks to be lower again. You have to save some power consumption somewhere.
Well I was always on the low clocks train of ~1500MHz max.
I wonder if it'll be more likely to be 7nm+ as they're already working on that for Zen 3. Then again, they'll be using Zen 2 and Navi so if they're going to port those designs over to a new node then maybe 6nm might be the easier/cheaper option.
Although, isn't 7nm+ just the BEOL that uses EUV and the rest stays largely the same?
Booty himself has wrong information about Minecraft in that same interview he says
which isn't true because the Playstation version doesn't have the Better Together update... for reasons, so his understanding of certain things is questionable to me. If you were to read two interviews about the PS5 one from Mark Cerny and the other from Shuhei Yoshida which one is likely to be more useful in regards to hardware information? Most of those guys are given talking points like 8k, 120fps and SSD and are "trotted" out like you said. If you wanted a quote that fits your narrative better then the following one would be better suited.
Hey I presented the only three possible options, there is no narrative - that encompasses all options. Either MS don't know which is more powerful or they are more powerful but are being weirdly coy or PS5 is more powerful. Those are the only options that are possible.
We don't know which will be most powerful, and honestly until the reveal I believed it was likely to be the new Xbox (but not by much), but the fact MS's messaging has clearly veered sharply away from the importance of power after hammering that point home with their XBX messaging is certainly worth noting. I don't think the "Anaconda is going to destroy PS5" narrative that has dominated these threads, to the point where anyone suggesting otherwise was ridiculed, has as much certainty behind it.
Everytime i see Zen 2, i start thinking of AMD Jaguar and chuckle a little.
What a disappointing CPU that was.
What a disappointing CPU that was.
may as well go live in a hole until E3 2020 at this rate....they're not give anything remotely concrete before then imo.
The marketing speak word choice differences used to describe the different consoles was pretty interesting.
You mean the words provided to them by Playstation and Xbox marketing PR?
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