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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation |OT10| - We aim to transition those from OT9 at a pace never seen before. [SEE THREADMARKS FOR CHANCE AT GLORY]
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In any case, as I did not know if it was a joke or not, I have made the decision based on events in general, and not based on that comment. I will speak publicly when everything is official. Until then only PM.
Nah, 99% chance it's 12 (or let's say 11.8 to 12.2). Way too much evidence. Known CU count of 56, multiple MS connected insiders including an article that was the "official" sanctioned reveal of Series X saying it, and the form factor all clearly point to 12TF.
Also your statement about Phil speaking in "general" terms and not "mathematical" terms seems very odd when he literally said "When we do the math...". What else do you think he's doing math on if not the TF count? It's not RAM, CPU clock, bandwidth, storage speed, or any other spec, so...
Doesn't mean PS5 isn't same or higher, of course. Just constrains the scenarios.
No one is requesting a ban for you. They were joking about wccftech. Right now people are so thirsty they will make a story out of any information from anyone who may know.
I'm still expecting February simply because things WILL leak come GDC.
But now I'm thinking it is something more in the vein of a video documentary. Likely it will be announced to air just some days ahead.
But now I'm thinking it is something more in the vein of a video documentary. Likely it will be announced to air just some days ahead.
I mean.. entirely possible. They may not want to eat into sales.. but then again, they announced BC in April 2019 to prevent that. As long as we all know PS5 plays PS4 games, all's good.
At E3 2013 they had marketing stuff for Gran Tursimo 6 that released later that year.
You've been thinking this for a while actually. We still have some time for them to announce an event for February.
Wait wait wait so you're telling me that this leak https://pastebin.com/utBUpz5V wasn't true at all and that most of the peope actually make things up? Hmmmm :)
Ha that won't be until 2023 all their consoles have roughly a ten year lifespan.
Wired article focusing on specs prior to GDC and a games focused event in May. Those are my expectations now.
I want clarify here too.
I am very grateful for the treatment received by everyone. And I thank you. It is not your fault. But I can't allow news to be made from my comments. It is something I should have thought.
My decision is exclusively for this reason. I have already said that the ban (whether kidding or not, for me or for the site) is just the point that made me think it was the most convenient.
the fault is mainly mine, and secondly of "some" type of press. I cannot allow news to be made from my comments. It is not your fault.
Don't worry. I'll be back.
As a part is the key. If it replaced the reveal itself I'd be a little disappointed.
I think it'd depend on the style of the documentary. If its interview heavy with not many games being shown/only showing really quick cuts of games alongside X feature then sure. But if it's more so games being shown prominently while voice overs explain the various technologies. I think it could work. Especially if they create a handful of smaller videos that get released alongside it. This means places like IGN, etc can create meaningful content from it, Digital Foundry can do pixel counting and actually dig into what was talked about in the video, other outlets can run stories about the games, accessories, etc. It could reach farther than a simple reveal IMO. It would allow them to go more in depth and answer many more questions than a reveal can where they have to be selective and surface level with details for the sake of time.
All the rumors pointed at a Feb reveal and end of Jan announcement which is the same as 2013 PS4 so expectations were high. Now that's out, things will slow down for sure until actual news thankfully.
And there goes another industry person ran off due to stupid ass games journalism. Hey Wccftech, if you're reading this? Fuck off. I think it's time to ban them from Era.
It's a fine line though because eventually people may think fuck it...get angry. Purchase a gpu. Purchase a switch.
It's a possibility that you end up angering a portion of your fanbase. Silence can instill doubt. I'm starting to think they have the weaker box, and they are now trying to work out how they counter microsofts approach.
lol How you somehow jumped to that conclusion is interesting to say the least.
Much better than any stage event, really. Cheaper to make too and a lot more fun to watch if well produced.
But 90/120 is way too long, I'd say 45 is already pushing it.
Release it on Netflix in 4kHDR.
Kinda agree. No wonder insiders don't come here. Even if they just give educated guesses, or dare to vaguely confirm/deny speculations, what they say will be quoted as facts. Disgusting.
It's not going to stop them reading it and doing the same thing, it's just how it is these days, everyone jumps on the smallest piece of info like hyenas.
This is getting boring - let's discuss some actual secret sauce.
Does anyone think either of the consoles will have any kind of machine learning cores? Like the Turing cores in Nvidia cards?
The reconstruction in Wolfenstein was so impressive - to the point where it looked sharper than native 4K - because of them. If next gen consoles used that we would have spectacular games. If one console had it and another didn't it would be a huge GPU advantage too.
That kind of reconstruction tech would actually be a real game changing secret sauce.
Does anyone think either of the consoles will have any kind of machine learning cores? Like the Turing cores in Nvidia cards?
The reconstruction in Wolfenstein was so impressive - to the point where it looked sharper than native 4K - because of them. If next gen consoles used that we would have spectacular games. If one console had it and another didn't it would be a huge GPU advantage too.
That kind of reconstruction tech would actually be a real game changing secret sauce.
At least on PS5 the hyenas will look this good
How do you know?
Have you got info, you have got info haven't you!!!!! I'm writing an article about hyenas.
'not sure - have AMD talked about anything like that? I kinda imagine MS might want to lean on some of that - perhaps leveraging azure/compute in the cloud and then having something simpler on the console for the scaling?
ML is too buzzwordy for one of them to not mention it in their reveals though - don't you think? Even if it's in the most vague, non-specific and non-commital way
I'm an intern at a game development studio. Everyone who works in the games industry and their mothers already know about PS5 specs by now.
Only the first half of my post is true.
Without telling anything concrete, do you have knowledge that your studio has devkits?
Don't hope for any insider information from me. The place I'm working in is very small and I'm based in Malaysia. We're probably the last place to be getting dev kits, LOL
Sony had still to release God of Wars Ascension in march 2013, The Last of Us in June 2013, of Beyond Two Souls in October 2013 and Gran Trusimo 6 in December 2013
That didn't stop them from announcing the PS4 in February 2013
It could also be a possibility that their BC solution is not that good or not ready yet.
We are going to get bits of info from GDC hopefully, it's not official but I still like the drips and drabs and people trying to put it all together.
Aside from the bad ideas they had going on yeah I don't think it would have worked out too badly.
We have been getting drips and drabs and people dont believe, GDC whispers wont make it easier lol.
The only thing we seem to get is the ui that looks exactly like the ps4 version anyway, but I think there will be a clearer idea of what is actually going on, if the flop gap is real we should hear more about it.
The Adam Orth controversy was the first landmine Microsoft stepped on in April, before their reveal and directly as a result of rumours, (although the problem was not the rumour but the true information about the always on connection it referred to, admittedly).
Sony would IMO do well to get the facts out and, with game reveals, hype building before there is much chance for rumour to negatively impact or dilute their messaging, which means before GDC.
I don't see how PS4 2020 sales factor in; anyone potentially buying a PS4 this late in the gen who hasn't already got one is unlikely to be swayed by a PS5 reveal. If TLOU2 (and it's library, and PS5 BC) doesn't persuade them to get a PS4, what would?
I don't believe any leak that doesn't put the XSX around 12 TF's. Question for the techies: Is it possible that the implementation of ray tracing impacts the power/performance of XSX to where it would be more in line with a 9 or 10 TF PS5? What are other ways to bridge this 2-3 TF gap performance-wise?
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'well I'm randomly going to also not believe any leak that doesn't put ps5 at 12TF so there no need for that question :p
(but no not really - RT wouldn't work like that. You could party bridge the gap with better ram bandwidth in case xsx might be slightly bandwidth starved; or faster SSD or more ram may help; or faster CPU which doesn't sound likely)
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