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Disagree completely, the format is fine. The lack of meaningful new announcements is the reason for tepid response to the SoP events. Obviously with the next generation coming that's going to correct itself.
Please read what i said..... It's not the format or concept i am against.. I just think their execution is horribly bad! Has nothing to do with games.....
Pacing, information, what and how things are being presented. The only good thing about SoP is the voice over.. Right now it's just like watching a youtube playlist.
They've had RE3, TLOU2 and other notable games at their SoP. If you don't like it now then nothing will change next gen.
Classic Era....
Of that, I completely agree. Sony needs to find a way to do it right. But I believe doing it at al is the right step to take. I do believe though that the issue with SoP so far has been the content.
No tone here friend, my apologies if it came off that way.
WiiU was also revealed at a live press conference.
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You said they'd be in trouble if they continued with the current format, and then went on to say it wasn't a content issue in a following reply. I'm saying the format won't make a lick of difference because content is king.
I'm blasé about SoP because for the most part it showing stuff we've seen before with few exception's like RE3. Unfortunately RE3 got leaked beforehand thanks to the own incompetence.
That's a you problem. You admitted that it won't matter if the revealed 10 GoTY contenders. At the ended of the day there to reveal content you want to play. If the show that the rest is insignificant.
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It's all good and perhaps i'm a bit touchy today.....Sorry
edit: Also i agree and i hope that they fix the problems that i think they are having.
No, i did not! No they will be in trouble if they think that the current SoP is good. Not that there is any problem with the format or concept itself.. again my dear brother, i am going to make it as easy as i can. talking about PRESENTATION!. Not talking about the format!
Look at the way Nintendo does is... It has everything, from concept/format to personality. Sony's SoP has none off that.
edit: You know what...go argue with yourself. The person who responded to me got it. So i'm fine with that.
Than why discuss anything? Or have any sort of opinion as long as they provide you with something?
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But stuff will leak at GDC, it always does.. so I would assume Sony will have the console reviled by then? instead of second hand info.
I'm not sure why everyone is expecting anything.
The consoles probably won't release until November, so I'm not sure why we expect to know very much about these consoles.
well there's a lot of insiders that said it would be in Feb. That's why there's expectations while Sony haven't said shit. It could still be Feb but I doubt it.
I know we didn't get anything today but I am not changing that Feb vote in the poll until the end of next weekend at the earliest. I still feel really confident in a Feb reveal.
Yeah. Remember the hottakes, Cellphones are going to match Xbox 360 and PS3 graphically by 2013, and so during this generation (PS4/XBoxOne), at the rate phone SoC company Qualcomm innovates, they would overtake our current gen consoles lol.
Funny thing about that is the present rate at which the Switch is selling. It is a portable device going toe to toe with phones in a mobile space and it's selling gangbusters. Consistently. Worldwide.
And even though phones have 4K OLED screens, great graphics etc etc, the Switch still dominates in almost every market. with a humble 720P non OLED screen. So yeah.. games talk, games dictate what people buy. You provide great games, people will follow.
Stuff is going to leak at GDC no matter what Sony or MS's plans are. This is especially true if Sony and MS will be debriefing developers on what to expect from the PS5 and XsX, which is almost certain. No amount of safe guards and secrecy they have in place will be able to prevent leaks from an event where thousands of people are talking all at once. The PS4 Pro was leaked almost immediately at GDC 2016, for instance.
Sony knows this, which is why they did the Wired article in April 2019 after GDC 2019 when the first PS5 dev kits went out, so at the very least, we should expect some official new from them about the PS5 just before or immediately after GDC 2020, which is in mid-March.
Sony knows this, which is why they did the Wired article in April 2019 after GDC 2019 when the first PS5 dev kits went out, so at the very least, we should expect some official new from them about the PS5 just before or immediately after GDC 2020, which is in mid-March.
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I agree with this. SoP would get more praise if they dropped Megatron bombs on there. The format itself is fine.
I agree. The past two years have been somewhat light on big announcements, almost certainly because the really big stuff is being made for PS5. They've only been able to offer maybe one big reveal for each SoP along with some nice smaller. Once they can start talking about PS5 projects, we'll be getting similarly huge announcements multiple times in each video.
I am not so sure though, each SoP since the second one had a "megaton", FF7 Remake rereveal, TLOU2 release date, RE3 announcement etc. and yet their engagement metrics pre SoP for each episode have been consistently dropping. I am sure that if they said the PS5 reveal will be there it's views will skyrocket, but there is no denying that the interest and engagement from the community around State of Plays has consistently weakened, so I really don't think it's the smart choice for them.
Ok, so what's the consensus on the WCCFTech article? You know what I find.. just a bit funny. In 2012... and in 2020...
Whenever there were rumors of PS4 and now PS5 being weaker than their competition.. these articles spin "It's over, Sony is doomed,they misjudged the competition etc"
But.. if theres articles sayin the PS4 is stronger like they said in the runup to 2013 PlaystationMeeting.or if they say PS5 is stronger today, the articles say "That difference is going to close by release, the competition will get stronger and close the gap" Just a weird thing I noticed.
I for one am glad it's looking very likely both consoles are alittle north of 12TFlops. And it will be closer than ever. Great thing for multi-platform games especially.
Whenever there were rumors of PS4 and now PS5 being weaker than their competition.. these articles spin "It's over, Sony is doomed,they misjudged the competition etc"
But.. if theres articles sayin the PS4 is stronger like they said in the runup to 2013 PlaystationMeeting.or if they say PS5 is stronger today, the articles say "That difference is going to close by release, the competition will get stronger and close the gap" Just a weird thing I noticed.
I for one am glad it's looking very likely both consoles are alittle north of 12TFlops. And it will be closer than ever. Great thing for multi-platform games especially.
I believe mid of february invites will go out and in march the event. Watch Sony send out the invites on the 14th.
Lots of those were leaked too though. The super great Sony E3 and PSX shows were filled with big titles that were also surprises.
A surprise or a shadow drop of something is always going to be hype compared to something people know about or gets leaked a couple days before. I think SoP is fine.
But I also don't think PS5 will be revealed that way either.
Chill?
How about everyday we hold outlandish expectations only to be disappointed each day we awake!
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I find it ridiculous that the Xbox Series X would be 12Tf. I mean, Phil Spencer says that it's twice as powerful than the Xbox One X, and someone was like "I know math: 6x2= 12!!" Of course it is, but it's likely that Phil meant it in a general way and not in a mathematical one.
There was one rumor that said the PS5 would be 9-10 Tf and the Xbox One X would be 10.X Tf. For me, that is the most believable. Many people say that both consoles are very close in power. That is something a lot of rumors have agreed on. If the Xbox Series X was 12 Tf, then the PS4 had to be 11.X - 12 Tf. However, many rumors have agreed that the PS5 is between 9 - 10 Tf. If both consoles are very close in power, it makes sense that the latter is more believable. Even if the PS5 gets to be more powerful than the Xbox, there is no way any of the consoles reach 12 Tf.
There was one rumor that said the PS5 would be 9-10 Tf and the Xbox One X would be 10.X Tf. For me, that is the most believable. Many people say that both consoles are very close in power. That is something a lot of rumors have agreed on. If the Xbox Series X was 12 Tf, then the PS4 had to be 11.X - 12 Tf. However, many rumors have agreed that the PS5 is between 9 - 10 Tf. If both consoles are very close in power, it makes sense that the latter is more believable. Even if the PS5 gets to be more powerful than the Xbox, there is no way any of the consoles reach 12 Tf.
I still think Sony holds back on the reveal because they still have one hell of a release year with Playstation 4. After Final Fantasy 7 and The Last of Us 2 is the time to promote their new hardware. Perhaps a few weeks before TLoU2 with the argument that you can use your library on PS5.
Until then I only see Hardware talk on higher level without a full reveal..
Until then I only see Hardware talk on higher level without a full reveal..
Why not wait until Ghost is released of they intend to do that?
I think a big State of Play IS more likely for 2020 Sony. And I wouldn't be opposed to that. And the thing is, all they would need is to give people two to three days heads up since people wouldn't have to travel for it.
The only thing I wouldn't be big into is a private press preview event where we get articles and videos from press like we get for some games.
The only thing I wouldn't be big into is a private press preview event where we get articles and videos from press like we get for some games.
I just don't see how this tracks with what they did with the PS4.
The PS4 reveal was Feb 20 2013. TLoU came out after E3 that year I think. So they had the reveal AND an E3 PS4 blowout right before TLoU launched.
And it makes even less sense to do it differently this gen, since backwards compatibility is going to be a thing for sure now.
The people who aren't planning on upgrading will buy TLoU 2 on PS4 regardless, and the people who do want to upgrade can still buy it knowing it will work on their shiny new PS5 later in the year.
You don't give exact numbers to the public until you've locked them down. If you put out a bunch of information then change that information it muddies the water and creates confusion which is something they want to avoid this time around.
My intention was not to be part of a story. Having seen it, the best thing will be to stop giving my opinion and dedicate myself only to reading until everything is official. If anyone has any professional questions send me a PM.
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I really hope you are right and my may reveal theory will be corrected.
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