I know lol. This little argument is so weird. We'll find out soon what he meant by latest/greatest tech.
I know lol. This little argument is so weird. We'll find out soon what he meant by latest/greatest tech.
If Sony had a released a lower spec console one year ahead of a more powerful Xbox, it would have been a PS2 repeat. Sony would've crushed Microsoft unmercifully, and the snowball effect would have been in full swing before the xsx was even on the shelves.
The PlayStation brand is strong enough to weather any difference with ease. Sony knows this, Microsoft knows this, we all know this. That is why I have a hard time believing that Sony got spooked and reworked their console.
Even an 8tf vs 12tf console (highly unlikely) would have been a supreme victory lol for Sony. A 399 next gen PlayStation with a full year of the market to itself would have been a bloodbath.
Disclaimer. I don't think that the difference will be anything like that though.
I know lol. This little argument is so weird. We'll find out soon what he meant by latest/greatest tech.
Because 2019 was never the target, and that there is some truth to the claims of the differences being minimalI largely agree with you which is why i'm wondering why you think 8tflops is unlikely at this current time?
Because 2019 was never the target, and that there is some truth to the claims of the differences being minimal
yikersI just dont believe the high clocks. So if the leaks are true then it will be below those clocks and so 8-8.5TF.
Like I said before that would be a huge disappointment but I will still buy it day 1.
To me it's a bit of fuck up on Sony part (I would still buy it ) to look at AMD road map and see they will be launching 60 and 80 cu gpus to market in summer 2020 and say we r good with 36 cu for holiday 2020. That's basically low end Navi by holiday 2020. Ps4 was even mid range amd gpu in 2013. So with all the money from PSN they decided to cheap out more on gpu this time compared 2013? We ll see I guessI just dont believe the high clocks. So if the leaks are true then it will be below those clocks and so 8-8.5TF.
Like I said before that would be a huge disappointment but I will still buy it day 1.
Yes! Im a fanboy and like to support PlayStation but Im allowed to be disappointed am I not? So yeah day 1.
what where?Are we still ignoring the fact that a verified Dev came in and told us the PS5 was performing better at the start of the year? Why on earth are we still discussing the Github leak then
Yes! Im a fanboy and like to support PlayStation but Im allowed to be disappointed am I not? So yeah day 1.
If PS delivers 8TF and Xbox 12TF that would be a big letdown for me.
I just would be upset because they spent money on haptic feed back, resistive triggers , 3 d audio chip, fastest ssd in the market yet they decided to say fuck it to the core of the console (according to cerny himself based on his talk with devs they wanted a powerful gpu first and foremost)Ehhh, I'm with him on that one. I will absolutely be getting PS5 day one due to the ecosystem and the exclusives that I absolutely cannot go without (plus I can trade in my Pro to save $$$), but I would absolutely be disappointed in a $399 8-8.5TF machine. I know that massive upgrades to the CPU, storage, etc would still make for a good machine, but I would also spend the next 7 years wishing they'd gone for a $499 box with a huge visual upgrade for that price - just like how I still wish the Pro had been $499 with matching specs.
Are we still ignoring the fact that a verified Dev came in and told us the PS5 was performing better at the start of the year? Why on earth are we still discussing the Github leak then
Haha this is perfect title if ps5 is more than 36 cu 😂😂
Agreed.Ehhh, I'm with him on that one. I will absolutely be getting PS5 day one due to the ecosystem and the exclusives that I absolutely cannot go without (plus I can trade in my Pro to save $$$), but I would absolutely be disappointed in a $399 8-8.5TF machine. I know that massive upgrades to the CPU, storage, etc would still make for a good machine, but I would also spend the next 7 years wishing they'd gone for a $499 box with a huge visual upgrade for that price - just like how I still wish the Pro had been $499 with matching specs.
Are we still ignoring the fact that a verified Dev came in and told us the PS5 was performing better at the start of the year? Why on earth are we still discussing the Github leak then
Jason, Klee and others can actually say nothing substantive. All we have is a githb leak which most people are assuming is real. And most also dont belive that Sony can ship with GPU at 2GHZ. So a slight downclock to 1.8 GHZ atleast, making the machine's GPU end up in the high 8tlflops.
No one said that though. I said that no matter what the power of the machine, i hope the PS5 in particular is a balanced machine because the Pro was very lopsided in multiple directions.
I just believe the PS5 will have 8tflop RDNA GPU firmly so i am basing my perspective on that.
|OT11| Much Github about Nothing
Yea i feel you wouldnt say that if you have 4tf advantage (8 vs 12) over your competition . You would say gpu is also extremely important .
True . Agree on that .Its maybe more a reflection that the general GPU jump isn't as large or obvious a leap as previous gens so they aren't focusing on it. Doesn't need to be a comparison to Sony - even if they were 50% more but still 'low' compared to last gen they may not see any point crowing about it. Better to emphasise the big leaps (CPU, SSD) that will really impact games and developer options
It is nice to see all the new stories and theories after some of the insight given yesterday.
Can't wait for the reveal ....
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If it's exactly 36 the "But " wouldn't make sense haha
Are we still ignoring the fact that a verified Dev came in and told us the PS5 was performing better at the start of the year? Why on earth are we still discussing the Github leak then
How sure are we Oberon was ever connected to PS5, and not tests for PS Now servers?
This is another thing I was thinking about. It fits with Booty and the no Series X exclusives from xgs, ppl speculating just acquired studios not really showing what they can do until 2 years into next gen. It all fits IMO.the focus on framerate stems from the fact that their first year lineup will be cross gen titles most likely.
In the running for the next OT title.
True . unfortunately here few people get rude and passive aggressive toward insiders/devs when they don't like what they hear. Hopefully we can improve on that here so they feel welcomed and safe to do so here .Okay my bad noone posted it here but on the other side .
BGs said that the PS5 had the better performance but this could have changed with the new Devkits ( which makes the Github leak even more irrelevant considering this ). Obviously i won't link it but it's there.
There must be a reason why Insiders prefer the other place, y'all are pretty heavy on them
Not a recap but the full blown text . ...Is there a recap of these insights for people who have missed them?
Please grant me eyes.
Okay my bad noone posted it here, but on the other side . Since Carmelozi posted the other post of him, i guessed he also posted this one.
BGs said that the PS5 had the better performance at the beginning of the year, but this could have changed with the new Devkits ( which makes the Github leak even more irrelevant considering this ). Obviously i won't link it but it's there.
There must be a reason why Insiders prefer the other place, y'all are pretty heavy on them
Can I link the post or post a screenshot of it here or would that be frowned upon?
and this mean it's not 8tfOkay my bad noone posted it here, but on the other side . Since Carmelozi posted the other post of him, i guessed he also posted this one.
BGs said that the PS5 had the better performance at the beginning of the year, but this could have changed with the new Devkits ( which makes the Github leak even more irrelevant considering this ). Obviously i won't link it but it's there.
There must be a reason why Insiders prefer the other place, y'all are pretty heavy on them
I still don't know how this will shake out - sub models for games could be very different from movies/music etc. But isn't there a risk if something like gamepass takes off, it could devalue day one sales which could really hurt some devs?
True . unfortunately here few people get rude and passive aggressive toward insiders/devs when they don't like what they hear. Hopefully we can improve on that here so they feel welcomed and safe to do so here .
True it's combination of all those things . Hopefully we learn and improve over time 👌👍And also insiders getting tired of people asking for information that they've already stated they can't give, plus using the info that they were nice enough to give for fanboy fuel. Mustn't leave that bit out.
Yes, especially considering a mod came in a day or two ago and said if you want to discuss the other place then go and do it at the other place.