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I don't get why the github info is constantly being downplayed. I'm not saying it's certain or anything but it seems like the most solid "info" to be in the thread outside of anything that Sony or MS has already spoken about directly. I may be missing something.
Peopel downplayed because of what Matt said, the same way other peopel only believe in that leak.
Because real as it may be we lack the context to arrive at any conclusion. Most people probably agree it relates to PS5 but it's not telling the whole story, especially when we have credible industry folks saying that the consoles are close (with some even giving PS5 the nod). It's just not adding up.
With the PS5 rumored to have been redesigned in 2017, could the messaging for Scorpio/X1X have been an influence on that decision? It would seem likely.
Looking back though, it's almost eerie how consistent MS's message has been this time around.
While I do think that having no SX exclusives at launch is a bad idea, it shouldn't really come as a surprise. You have to admire their consistency in their messaging!
They've been saying this/hinting at it since 2016!
Looking back though, it's almost eerie how consistent MS's message has been this time around.
While I do think that having no SX exclusives at launch is a bad idea, it shouldn't really come as a surprise. You have to admire their consistency in their messaging!
They've been saying this/hinting at it since 2016!
It's just what seems to be a routine stress test of a chip done not by an engineer, but by an intern (the data available on the repo stated that much). For all we know, someone could have just passed a "here new guy, just run these scripts and do this tests on this chip and report back" as a minor task/test to give the guy something to do.
Some two OTs ago, there was a great post with someone specifying why the GitHub leak should be seen as incomplete data at best.
And don't forget the original Ariel 2.0GHz leak which almost no one believes but has just as much claim to legitimacy.
I haven't followed these threads closely but it seems most insiders have said or suggested that the github leak is not an indication of final hardware.
It hasnt just the 2.00Ghz
First the consoles coulndt have a sdd, then they couldnt be above 1.6GHz. Their has a leak of the ps5 having 1Ghz and peopel said that it has with 64CU just to match the 8TF and then they find out it has actualy 1.8Ghz and change to 36CU.
The amount of times this thread has been wrong you whould expect peopel to have doubst of what anybody says in here.
Era always knows more.......There is a reason why it's era -> internet -> era
Where is this Github repo? I've seen lots of people talking about it - but I've not seen any actual link or dump of info/files from it.
How many people have actually seen the actual source?
It was pulled. Hundreds of people have seen it, and some era members backed it up.
The Crash bandicoot trilogy was a triumph in terms of both critical reception and sales, last I remembered. And the games were technically exceptional for that era...
... except what we actually know, which could keep changing right up to an official announcement. Trying to piece together the big picture when you can only see fragments without context is always going to be error prone.
Kudos for your message clarifying the semi-custom design process with AMD. I think it was presented in a way that makes it really relatable for anyone, which is quite evidently needed here even though AMD is pretty transparent about how it all works in terms that make sense to those closer to their industry. People make fun of "secret sauce" and the importance of console-specific decisions but the decisions made and even small additions can have a significant impact on the final product.
The odds that your changing yields will produce the right proportion of Anaconda and Lockhart APUs to satisfy market demand are pretty much zero, forcing you to either manufacture perfectly good Anaconda-sized dies to ship to Lockhart customers, or stockpile extra Lockhart APUs. Neither one strikes me as a sustainable and cost-effective production process. You would also have to have a memory controller that can adapt to various memory types and bus widths. I think this is a safe "no."
They didn't claim it was more powerful then the pro before the pros specs were revealed. It's different. MS was strictly talking about there upcoming box just like they are now.
I know you're just being (needlessly) ridiculously sarcastic here, but just to be clear, I'm pretty sure those t-shirts were made for the launch of XB1X - i.e. in 2017, after the PS4 Pro was on the market and its specs were fully known. When they first announced XBX1, I believe the words MS used were similar to the unveil of XSX - i.e. 'we believe it's the most powerful'. They weren't definitive with their wording.
But really, this argument seems to pop up at least once a week at this point. 'If MS are so confident they're the most powerful, why don't they come out and say so.' The answer if simply because there's a chance that they might not be the most powerful, and would therefore look foolish once the specs for both consoles are revealed. It's the exact same reason why, between February 2013 and May/June 2013, Sony never once touted the PS4 as being the most powerful console. Even though I'm sure they probably knew what MS was doing and knew they actually were the most powerful, they waited for the official unveil of the XB1 and for things to be set in stone before actually saying so and using it in their marketing.
Although of course, just like most people who make similar posts to yours, I'm sure you already knew all of this.
Do you mind giving me a timestamp to where they said that, because I don't remember that at all. I'm pretty sure they unveiled all the specs, but I don't remember them actually confirming the PS4 to be the most powerful console.
I must have missed that. These threads are moving so damn fast. It's impressive how fast the the thread moves considering how little info is actually leaking.
He said that is has glad that peopel had move forward because the github info has not representive off the final hardware, something like this.
He said that so long ago though and we're still talking about it.
Hopefully tomorrow brings good news.
Sorry, but that's not exactly the proof I was looking for. '... consistent with our heritage in gaming, delivering the most powerful platform ever' isn't exactly any clearer than MS saying the XSX is the most powerful console they've ever built. I was looking for a definitive statement of the PS4 being the most powerful console in the world. The sort of thing that Sony only started saying after E3 2013.
We are still talking about if it is gnc or navi, this thread goes in circles.
Are you serious? He literally says PS4 is "the most powerful platform ever". Not theirs, but the.
You asked for it, and you got it.
"Our fastest, most powerful Xbox will set a new bar for performance, speed, capability"
"Graphical power isn't the only thing Microsoft aims for, but it's definitely something it cares about, which is apparent when Spencer stated, "Our goal has always been to build the most powerful console we can, and I think we're there. We like leading in power and performance and I feel like we're going to be there again.""
Lots of confidence from Phil. Let's see if they can deliver.
I am. It's not a definitive statement. I'm literally just asking for a single example of where Sony actually say the words, 'the PS4 is the world's most powerful console'. To my knowledge, they never committed to saying that until after the XB1 was unveiled. That's all my point is. You're obviously going to want to be 100% sure of your competitor's capabilities before going off and shouting it from the rooftops. They make no mention of the PS4 being the world's most powerful console in their official press release from February 2013 either, which you'd think they would do if they were so confident of it.
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At that point, they were probably comparing to the PS3, Xbox 360. And not the Xbox One. Xbox One wasn't announced at the time.
In some territories they had advertising calling the Pro "The Worlds Most Powerful Console". I'm on mobile but if you image search you will find it. I don't think they ever did that for base PS4 that I can recall.
Pro was the world's most powerful console at the time.
I know. The poster was asking about those specific words and I was just saying that was only used with Pro that I remember.
Those "I witnessed" shirts were from e3 2017. That was the year after PRO released.
Yep, and post X1X launch they added the year on the badge as well.
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They used it for the OG PS4, albeit rarely.
It took Sony 15-20 years to have a stream of 10m+ sellers like they do now.
To be clear, it doesn't have to be that that exact wording. That was just an example. All I was really asking for is direct acknowledgement/advertisement from Sony that they have the most powerful console. As far as I'm aware, it was only at some point after E3 2013 that they actually started doing that. Which, to go back to my original point, would make sense -- since it was only after E3 2013 that they could be sure things were set in stone (barring a clock boost here or there).
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Thanks, that was the way I remembered it. Which is why I was saying I wouldn't read into MS not crowing about the power crown yet. If E3 comes and goes and they're still on their humble shit we'll have a better picture. I expect them to use multipliers, talk about their services and show some games because I don't personally think they'll be the most powerful. But who knows at this point 🤷🏾♂️
Or maybe Sam Lake and Frank Ocean hang out and listen to Joan Rivers
The closer we get to all of this to more likely I think we're getting a massive State of Play in February with the press being invited to a location to do interviews and try things out for their articles on the same day. It worked well for the TLOU2 release date State of Play and would work out really well here.
Here's how I could see it going. Do a 45 - 60 minute State of Play where we have Cerny talk about the PS5 and show off the box. In addition to that we get about a dozen or so trailers for some of the games that will launch on the PS5, some first party and some third party. It'll be a tight program with little to no filler like a stage show might have. After that ends we'll be able to look forward to hundreds of articles and videos from the press who attended the event and we'll get a ton more details to sink our teeth into.
That will tide us over until Sony's E3 replacement event sometime later this year when they do a MASSIVE blowout.
It almost feels like the previous SoP's have been building towards this. At one SoP they have the press there to try out TLOU2. They also deviated from only having the disembodied voice by having Ken Kutaragi directly address the fans in his little video segment which means it wouldn't be a stretch to have Cerny, Hulst or Ryan in there as well.
Here's how I could see it going. Do a 45 - 60 minute State of Play where we have Cerny talk about the PS5 and show off the box. In addition to that we get about a dozen or so trailers for some of the games that will launch on the PS5, some first party and some third party. It'll be a tight program with little to no filler like a stage show might have. After that ends we'll be able to look forward to hundreds of articles and videos from the press who attended the event and we'll get a ton more details to sink our teeth into.
That will tide us over until Sony's E3 replacement event sometime later this year when they do a MASSIVE blowout.
It almost feels like the previous SoP's have been building towards this. At one SoP they have the press there to try out TLOU2. They also deviated from only having the disembodied voice by having Ken Kutaragi directly address the fans in his little video segment which means it wouldn't be a stretch to have Cerny, Hulst or Ryan in there as well.
I'd be okay with this
Makes sense, seems logical and the whole "see you again next year" could've been a nod to the first Sony PS event of 2020 being a new SoP for the PS5
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