Osiris may well be right but that article said it was heading to Xbox as well and that was what really stood out for me and proved that part is atleast fake unless something major is about to happen and Sony going third party.
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Osiris may well be right but that article said it was heading to Xbox as well and that was what really stood out for me and proved that part is atleast fake unless something major is about to happen and Sony going third party.
I believe it's in reference to their 3 current projects: Insight Project, Hellblade 2 and Project: Mara.
I was not serious and perhaps you neither? Just want to make that clear my sarcasm meter is severely broken spending a bit to much time in this thread.
Me too. But I am quite satisfied even with my Zen+ 8 Core.
I think it's games that have a direct tie to their mental health stuff. Bleeding Edge also exists and the studio likely has at least one more project they're kicking around.
Mainly because most devs have been using it for reflections only. Reflective surfaces & rain will be next-gen's bloom for a while.
Uh, I'm pretty sure that segment is just footage of their offices. You can see Tameem sitting on those same stairs at 4:42 in the video.
Yep, the baked lighting allows that. But we have big loading times between time of day because of this baked lighting.
Personally, I want day/night cycle and weather PLUS NY under snow (and not just snow flakes, something like the Division).
Like Ryse, The Order is still a looker in 2020. A very linear and tight settings game can allow them to make a really stunning game.
Hell yes. Borrow some of that deformable snow tech from SSM or GG (and I think ND has implemented in in TLOU2 as well).
Indeed, we are aligned on that.
Surely both will deliver great content, and a significant leap over current gen.
Also, not expecting a big difference in power between the 2.
Look at the ghost shadow popping up at 0:13 in the reflection on the left side.
It's not real.
The USB standard is the best/worst thing to happen to tech. Early crappy USB cables flooding the market, USB mini/micro/A/C connectors, slow to adopt standards, power rating, speed, etc, most specs never documented. USB-C connectors made most everyone think that it's faster and better, when some C connectors could actually be using USB 2.x. It's a nightmare. My friends new off-brand powerbrick using USB-C>USB-C connectors is slower with less power than my 3 year Samsung powerbrick using USB-A to USB-C.
If the USB 4 standard forced everyone to put actual specs on the cable or boxes, it may save us. Probably won't.
Then whats going on with the pixel crawl on that panel right here?
And the ghost in the reflection?
I think ya'll are underestimating the power of photogrammetry, ray tracing, and DEM FLOPZZZ
I'm curious though, why do you completely dismiss insider information? Even when the information is right and accurate, on multiple occasions. Especially when they're right, and trusted.
Is it because it's more fun/challenging and feels less like cheating that way, or do you want/need your outcome to be right, so you ignore everything else?
It is a closed environment so I can't see why it can't be in engine. It is been one year that we are full on demo of Ray Tracing and lots of them are above that.Then whats going on with the pixel crawl on that panel right here?
And the ghost in the reflection?
I think ya'll are underestimating the power of photogrammetry, ray tracing, and DEM FLOPZZZ
Who's right and trusted ? Klee isn't verified and not been anything major came out proving one way or another. He's predicted a February meeting (as has everyone) so if that doesn't turn out as true it'll go along way .
the only real insiders on the MS side just now are ones putting there head about the water and claiming 12TF we have heard nothing about the ps one way or the other outwith the GITHUB stuff.
the rest has been pretty vague
Agreed, it's a mess. I can understand the confusion. My iPhone is A to Lightning so I wouldn't be surprised if the ports on the box are A while the other end is C.
This is also me, catching up to the thread after i wake up hoping for a bombshell only to find out that 20 pages of arguing has passed instead lolYay, I'm awake!!!
Every day is like waking up on Christmas morning, running down to the tree and it be like
One day... One day 😢
Well, one reason could be to try avoid the effects of confirmation bias to some degree. Ultimately, a lot of the insider talk is a mix of information passed along and speculation, so you are choosing to trust not only the information, but the insider's interpretation of that information. More often than not, the insiders you are going to choose to believe are going to be the ones confirming an existing belief or desire. It's very difficult to avoid doing this. Ignoring everything not rooted in confirmable fact avoids the issue to some degree.
That having been said, I think including this insider info is going to give you a more complete picture. You just have to be disciplined in what information you choose to believe.
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I tried to explain it earlier: Inside information comes without context the info was given in and very often in such vague ways it could mean anything. You cannot scrutinize it yourself. This has nothing to do with the individual, it is the information that I am skeptical about.
Hits and Misses: Nothing is confirmed yet. But I also see them being wrong on something they doubled down on multiple times (Lockhart). Apologies that I stay skeptical.
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I kinda regret it.
Ray tracing and SSD are going to blow people away imo.
My humble opinion?
The Ps5 is closer to 11 than 10.
Just my uneducated guess based on nothing more than what I think and not current data/leaks whatsoever.
Then whats going on with the pixel crawl on that panel right here?
And the ghost in the reflection?
I think ya'll are underestimating the power of photogrammetry, ray tracing, and DEM FLOPZZZ
Real environment...
No they have not and all have basically said that there is not a 9 to 12TF difference and they are extremely close or PS5 is/was even stronger.
Also you seem to have missed the fact Klee said he was not needed anymore and we would get an update very soon (the day before VGA) and when someone posted a picture of Scarlett Johansson he replied bingo.
I wish there would be tech demos to download on the PC which are programmed with raytracing, the current CPUs and SSDs in mind, just that we can have a sneak peak into next gen.
Either you are being obtuse or you just haven't been paying attention. Interesting that you mention Klee, though, considering I didn't... And you immediately went out of your way to try and dismiss him. 😊
I'm referring to Jason, to Matt, to Reiner and yes, absolutely, to Klee. And no, he hasn't been "vague" at all. He's been right about basically everything he's said, except for Lockhart (he wasn't the only one who thought it was dead, for that matter).
If you believe the SX to be a 12 tflops console, then you ought to believe Klee.
*sighs*
I didn't want to have to take that detour, wasn't my intention.
I was genuienly curious as to why someone would ignore so many people that are either trusted and/or have been right about stuff. I know Colbert doesn't like/trust Klee, but it wasn't about him.
40 at 2 ghz would need insane yields . Much more expensive than going wider and slower . So to me that defeats the purpose
I mention Klee as it's who the only main insider on here seems to post .
matt has never mentioned the difference between the two consoles and has clarified this multiple times just that both will be very good.
jason again another one people have said he has stated somewhere about their relative power difference but no one has shown receipts for this.
they all can't be correct and it annoys me as an outsider who's been reading these threads for what feels like years now people's quote being twisted into facts (ala Matt and Jason)
I think both consoles will be pretty similiar with differences on vrs, RT etc being the main differences but can we stop quoting facts that are not facts about insiders
It's only that expensive if yields are terrible and it doesn't offset against some of the other possible benefits you get like having the chip be a bit cheaper (relatively).
Of course you will have to make up for the heat somehow.
Unless of course its cheaper to throw away a taped out chip and restart rather than focus on maximizing clocks and yields.
When Kojima made the Fox Engine, they used their office as model / showcase.
Real environment...
How many insiders said Lockhart was still alive ? It is officially not a thing at the moment. We can extrapolate that it makes sense with the new "non exclusives" policy, but this is still not a thing.
You know what would be ideal? The slot everyone thinks it's for devkit debugging? Retail version should have 2 USB-C ports there. That makes 3 USB-A for most things and backward compatibility, and 2 USB-C. It's unlikely that we'll get USB 4 or Thunderbolt for data, but the C connector may allow them to use USB Power Delivery (PD) to push really fast power charging speeds.
This. I thought we've already established that [email protected] wouldn't make sense outside of the test environment that they've used during the GitHub leak...
Yields are only half the equation. The amount of cooling that would be needed for that clock speed is the other half.
Going on this thread everyday, wishing for the emotional release of new information, it is very definition of mental terror.
Well I guess they redid the marble on the stairs then?
Real environment...
Also looks like there's some raytracing noise in the reflections immediately next the steps, it's only really apparent in motion though.
Fair enough, but Lockhart seemed to have backfired on a lot of people. Even Schreier said as much.
But as you're clearly referring to Klee, what about before then? The things he got absolutely right? RDNA-based consoles + over 10 tflops (almost confirmed, judging by what MS has indicated about the SX), VRS, HW ray-tracing (not the first to say this). You still dismissed not only him, but by extension, several people saying the same things. But nevermind, we'll know soon enough. 😊
It's beautiful - I can't wait to see what horrors are in store. I loved that they modeled project MARA from their office location. Many people here were fooled thinking it was video.
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