That would make sense. I'm sure Sony would like to fully announce the PS5 before Destination Playstation so they don't have to fear leaks from retailers.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation |OT10| - We aim to transition those from OT9 at a pace never seen before. [SEE THREADMARKS FOR CHANCE AT GLORY]
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I'm sorry, I had to screen grab this post because of the ad.
Literally pissing ourselves with excitement.
Retailers will want to know before May, holy shit people really considering that there wont be an event in a month or two?
Yep, Huge, but i think series x and ps5 are both getting huge APU's if were getting 12TF.
I said this before and I'll repeat for the new OT: AMD has never done a 3 SE GPU and I feel it's very unlikely it can be done without issues to work scheduling. Navi architecture kinda mitigates most of the need to go with a higher number, too, since it changed cache structure and the backend so they scale with shader arrays, instead.
You can click on the tweet and read his bio, it took less time than writing a post here...
Godfall CEO said "Spring" when asked "when will we see them / have news next", that's why I haven't hope for next month. But I am ready to be surprised.
52CU with 3 SEs will actually be bigger than a 56CU XSX iGPU because of the 3 SEs and the extra WGP that will need to be disabled.
Maybe god fall will be at second event about price and games etc... and not PS meeting reveal ?
I don't know if 3 SEs will be a thing or not, but we don't really know what RDNA needs or can do because we have so little GPU samples to draw examples from. If RDNA is very flexible, maybe the SE count is more flexible than before too. We did get the 5500 with a single SE, so we know the SE count doesn't have to be even. But I do agree that it's most likely 2 SEs, especially now that we know that a single SE can handle 12W WGPs, so 2 SE can probably handle at least 24 WGPs which is pretty close to the XSX's 30 WGPs.
Me too. Jaffe 4 weeks comment and checking the 10th, 11th, 12th of February still empty on Sonyhall so hopefully the 12th.
I get this... but then i am thinking:
"With all the silence on leaks that sony are doing around their PS5 plans, they just let a third party dev give a ballpark of when to expect the event when even they arent willing to?"
I think he just says he is happy that Niners go to Super Bowl..
edit. I should have refreshed the page.
I expect both to be 60CU chips, so it would only be the extra 23mm2 between the chips? But yes ps5 would be slightly bigger in this scenario.
Yup, because Sony has no reason to show anything publicly anytime soon.
He should understand the sensitivity of these days for ps fans and choose his words wisely 😂😂
Didn't ZhugeX say that final Devkits would be around E3? Seems in line with 3rd point
Yea and we know the leaked dev pics were called prototype 1(so prospero)
If they have 3 SEs while MS has 2 SEs and both are 60 CUs, then the XSX will be 56 CUs while PS5 is 54 CUs and has a bigger iGPU. On the one hand, MS has 4% more CUs, on the other Sony has 50% more SEs, and we don't know which one has higher clock speed. In that scenario, the PS5's pixel fillrate will destroy the XSX's.
But the more reasonable scenario is that both have 2 SEs, we already know from the Github leak that XSX has 60 CUs (56 active) and we have no idea what Sony has if the Github leak is outdated.
How about some SSD speculation? We had a rumor about the XSX using a Phison controller. If we assume it's a PCIe 4.0 controller, and I think it's safe to assume that, then we only have three options. The mid-range option is the E16, and we already have some SSDs on the market which uses it. One example is the Corsair MP600.
Here is the Corsair MP600 VS the launch Xbox One HDD - the Samsung Spinpoint Momentus ST500LM012:
As you can see, x44 times the sequential read speed (which matches Phil's 40 times faster statement) which is a good example for resuming a hybernating game out of a non-compressed memory dump (around 4 seconds to resume if we assume 13GB-17GB memory available for games) or initial loading of a game if the developer duplicates data and/or takes the time to arrange the initial loading data on the drive in a sequential order.
As for streaming randomly accessed data, like in Star Citizen (which Dictator has pointed out), we get over 100 times faster data read which is an indicator of performance during the streaming of a large open world.
This looks very likely, good find!
Timing:
Before end March - Sony end of financial year report. Likely to include a look ahead to next year (April 1 onwards) and some discussion of PS5. Maybe less relevant to get ahead of this as the name at least has been mentioned along with release window of 2020.
Before Mid-March - Pre GDC to allow for streams if needed or even just to get ahead of technical discussion on engines etc that will be relevant for next gen.
Before end of Feb - Pre Destination Playstation which is normally end of Feb where Retailers will want to know more about content for rest of year
(Godfall Spring comment doesn't impact that - they've recently shown so could easily miss a February reveal and come back for a later presentation in June)
Scope: This would be for providing enough initial information to get traction/news and avoid leaks/spoilers from those two events. looking at what PS meeting did I think thats a good idea of the scope you'd be looking at.
For final price/game announcements you wait until MS has shown its hand at E3 so you go later in June
Before end March - Sony end of financial year report. Likely to include a look ahead to next year (April 1 onwards) and some discussion of PS5. Maybe less relevant to get ahead of this as the name at least has been mentioned along with release window of 2020.
Before Mid-March - Pre GDC to allow for streams if needed or even just to get ahead of technical discussion on engines etc that will be relevant for next gen.
Before end of Feb - Pre Destination Playstation which is normally end of Feb where Retailers will want to know more about content for rest of year
(Godfall Spring comment doesn't impact that - they've recently shown so could easily miss a February reveal and come back for a later presentation in June)
Scope: This would be for providing enough initial information to get traction/news and avoid leaks/spoilers from those two events. looking at what PS meeting did I think thats a good idea of the scope you'd be looking at.
For final price/game announcements you wait until MS has shown its hand at E3 so you go later in June
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When will they say how many SE they have .i have never seen it mentioned in spec sheets . Is it considered in calculation of TF(i doubt )
PS5 is able to produce sweat. To make next gen feel look and smell more immersive.
Damn feb 12 .maybe feb 20 again ?
For feb 5 its too late to send invites now .
Pushsquare article in an hour: "Developer at DICE confirms real sweat interactivity for Ps5 . Makes camping the most immersive experience ever."
I can hear the furious typing.
"EA DEVELOPER CONFIRMS PS5 CAN PRODUCE IMMERSIVE SWEAT"
22nd january converted from the roman GCN calendar or natively coming from the RDNA gregorian calendar ?
lmaoo, indeed 😂😂
I'm sorry, I had to screen grab this post because of the ad.
Literally pissing ourselves with excitement.
Are you sure? I though GDDR6 uses two 16bit channels per controller:
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DrKeo is correct. The GDDR6 PHY on the 5700 XT and 5500 are all 32-bit. If you look on the die shots of those chiös you see 4 pairs of it on the 5700 and 4 single ones on the 5500. If have no idea how you come to the conclusion the bus-width has to be divisible by 64.
First 5700, Second 5500. Green highlighted areas are the PHYs
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i could go for some chiös right now. mhm, with some guac and creme fraiche on the side, fuck yeah.
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