https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/
PS5 devkits is currently early "low speed" version according to the Wired article. So i wouldn't read too much into devkit comparison at such early stage.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread - MY ANACONDA DON'T WANT NONE
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Yep right now we know they aiming for it.
They also got the 2 models so it could also be easier for them to get it done .
But as for right now no one know who is going to be more powerful as a fact .
Man I need a credible and detailed leak because this is looking to be the most obnoxious intergenerationalgaming period ever. I need substance to get me through
Yeah you're right I don't disagree with you. I was talking more about the hostility towards the discussion by some people which comes across more as a personal thing towards perhaps rival platform being better in some way.
Then again I could be reading it into it all wrong. Everyone makes mistakes.
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I miss Matt. No nonsense, pithy and BS free and knows stuff about all three platforms. A shame he stopped posting next-gen stuff.
Hey! I get a vote, don't I? I'm not going to make a huge "stake in the ground" claim on any number. But I have my reasons for believing that's where they will land. I'm voting in the 8 range. But I'm not claiming there is "no way" its more or less. That's just my vote.
There are some people speaking in absolutes, which is more what I'm referring to.
I think there may be a misunderstanding - Sony in particular, historically, has carried their previous gen into the next for at least 3 years. I would be surprised if they broke that model this time around. Therefore my point is, if they moved 100% of their production to the Pro, it would raise the overall bar for development and drive costs down. Basically - they are going to do it anyway IMO, so might as well be the pro.
I won't really comment directly on Microsoft stuff, since I know the plan. I'm not avoiding the questions I'm just actively not answering them :)
See above. I think they would hold the consoles for a few years *anyway* - so moving from a mix of Base/Pro to all Pro *would* raise the bar somewhat is the point.
Wasn't it supposed to be alot of information about scarlet family after GDC this year according to hmqgg posts?! stuff like ray tracing etc
his claims are just fanfictions to me
his claims are just fanfictions to me
I feel like the only people who are gonna be able to answer if Nextbox/PS5 is more "powerful" are gonna be peeps who work for AMD. And tbh, those guys aren't gonna be leaking anything. They have no incentive to try and sway opinion either way and a lot of incentives to keep their customers happy by keeping NDAs. I'd be surprised if they didn't have different teams for each console with minor overlap.
I'm gonna be ignoring any info from any MS or Sony affiliated insiders about which is more powerful. Still way too many variables IMO for that kind of declaration since we're a good 18 mths from potential launches.
I don't see any official numbers / spec sheet coming out until this time next year. Closest we will get until then is if someone from EA (or another huge multiplat) decides to leak if they access to both devkits. Even then you still end up with the "how much of the devkit makes it into consumer model?" question.
I'm gonna be ignoring any info from any MS or Sony affiliated insiders about which is more powerful. Still way too many variables IMO for that kind of declaration since we're a good 18 mths from potential launches.
I don't see any official numbers / spec sheet coming out until this time next year. Closest we will get until then is if someone from EA (or another huge multiplat) decides to leak if they access to both devkits. Even then you still end up with the "how much of the devkit makes it into consumer model?" question.
In my opinion?
Because I don't think that it is possible for one console to be much better than the other.
We are expecting both consoles to launch next year and use the same hardware from AMD.
Zen 2 CPU and Navi GPU. Both will have SSD. Probably both will have ray tracing. And of course both will be native 4K consoles.
Best performance. Hardware leader. Everyone just repeating what Spencer said that is Microsoft's goal.
Personally I strongly believe that any performance difference will not play any significant role for the success of each next generation console but usually this thread is just all about that.
If I was creating a house of wood and someone gave Nibel proof that my neighbour is doing the same but only using materials that would surprise anyone or are unknown to the mass. While we both get a house where we can live in, the one is clearly better option than other.
Im thinking the proof was something technical that could surprise even Sony.
Nibel just confirmed klobre told him his position in the industry and why he would know . Not that he showed anything to Nibel about specs
Fun fact, but looking at the last 26 years of 3d consoles (and handhelds) there's not a single instance of two competing machines(within same 'generation') being within 10% (or 20% for that matter)*. Of course - most of them also don't share price point (and/or release dates).
While under assumption of similar price and release date, 10-20% difference might sound reasonable, it's really betting against the odds based on data to date :P
*Admittedly the measure of computational power isn't as simple with older hw, but I am willing to fight on that hill.
Makes you wonder where the sony guys are...... like we don't even have a single official sony insider.
Thm sony ninjas are real.
It is the Scarlett devkit codename. It reminds me of something though. There is only one devkit for both Anaconda and Lockhart, right? So doesn't that suggest that the base architecture is the same between the two? i.e. CPU/GPU/RAM would be the same just at different clocks and amount of RAM?
Or is this wrong and there will be two separate devkits for Anaconda and Lockhart?
Man, this gets more interesting as we go with Albert Penello chiming in with an "about 8TF" guess on PS5 and of course also knowing the Xbox plan that he can't really respond to for obvious reasons. It sure seems like the master plan that he is aware of was something pretty powerful on the Xbox side.
Just wondering, what would happen if you shared all that you know? :)
Would it be trouble for you?
prity much seems to be that way. the weaker version is most likely a weaker gpu/slower ssd/ less cooling/ weaker psu ect.
Didn't Jason shrier confirmed that both anacando and ps5 are above 10.7 TF ?
yeah I think especially modern urban enviroments will benefit from reflections while wildlands will be refined differently but we're still far away from something that looks like the Lion King trailer but I expect getting a good step closer to that next-gen
He absolutely did NOT do that. I am pretty sure that he was just throwing out his thought that both would want to beat the Stadia number, not really trying to give inside info or anything.
No.
It is the same with all other rumors "I heard they target"
So as much confirmation as everything else.
Yeah Sony is to scared to enter this Anaconda pit. MicroSnake going for the SonyMouse kill.
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Technically we knew that Microsoft was going to have multiple consoles next-generation from Phil Spencer himself...before we got the codenames for the 2SKUs.
Yeah this has become an X thread. OP even put Anaconda in the title. We need a Sony HW spec thread.
And Albert is confirming 8tf ps5? He did not .u just chose to see it that way cause that is what you want to see .
Albert didn't confirm ps5 is 8tf .he just said it's his opinion .Jason said he has heard from his sources(not his thoughts ) that anacando and ps5 are aiming to be above 10.7 TF of stadia.
Or maybe Microsoft are severely underestimating the PS5 because 8TF sounds very conservative.
Maybe 8tflop of Na'vi is higher performing then 10.7tf of vega.
I wasn't in any way saying that Albert was confirming that, as he himself said it was nothing more than a guess. I do find it interesting that he says that he has reason to believe in his guess though. I don't think that Jason was necessarily going on record with that one sentence as being from his "sources" either though.
He never claimed that Albert confirmed it though... It sounds like an educated guess.
Anyways we r going in circles. Hope we makes things more clear .
Well then what are you doing here bro? Get out of our X thread!
Edit. Hoping the sarcasm is obvious here.
Nice of you to join us, bdsams! Welcome!
Just going by what you said earlier, it somewhat confirms what I've believed to be the case since the Wired interview.
The consoles may be similarly priced, and have similar performance, but still focus on different things. So for example, MS might have invested in a beefier, higher-clocked GPU for their console, but the SSD or RAM isn't quite as fast and advanced as on the PS5 etc.
Which to me is exciting!
It means that it isn't about who spends more, it's about them trying to figure out the best configuration for their vision of what 'next-gen' entails, within similar budget constraints.
The marketing will be interesting... The differences don't seem to be as clear-cut as with the PRO and the X.
Is that a correct assumption?
Just going by what you said earlier, it somewhat confirms what I've believed to be the case since the Wired interview.
The consoles may be similarly priced, and have similar performance, but still focus on different things. So for example, MS might have invested in a beefier, higher-clocked GPU for their console, but the SSD or RAM isn't quite as fast and advanced as on the PS5 etc.
Which to me is exciting!
It means that it isn't about who spends more, it's about them trying to figure out the best configuration for their vision of what 'next-gen' entails, within similar budget constraints.
The marketing will be interesting... The differences don't seem to be as clear-cut as with the PRO and the X.
Is that a correct assumption?
A lot of MS insiders since the semi-reveal of the next PS....So a genuine interest to have more infos in the wild or damage control ? (8Tflops really ? Again?)
Are u 2 serious ? May I ask how old u guys are ? Stop acting like 8 year olds .this is thread for everyone to discuss amd speculate about next gen and if u r joking then sorry for not getting the joke :/
After Sony's PS5 reveal the number of insiders with the word better" performance" has imdeed drastically increased . Hopefully it will calm down soon enough and we see what's happening at e3 and get more solid info.
If you don't want people to act like 8 years old, then you are in the wrong thread.
I just checked this thread last few pages and it is on another level of embarrassment ROFL.
Never change Era!
12tflop gpu
24gb gddr6
3.2ghz 8 core zen 2
Is about what I expected though, a new gen console tend to have gpu power of the best gpu(from the Sam vendor) from 3yrs prior. A vega 64.
Vega 64 is actually a great outcome people were expecting more vega 56 at the beginning of these threads.
It's also odd that that 8-9tflops used to be quite accepted but now it's like an insult?
24gb gddr6
3.2ghz 8 core zen 2
Is about what I expected though, a new gen console tend to have gpu power of the best gpu(from the Sam vendor) from 3yrs prior. A vega 64.
Vega 64 is actually a great outcome people were expecting more vega 56 at the beginning of these threads.
It's also odd that that 8-9tflops used to be quite accepted but now it's like an insult?
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To be honest with you: If this was a classroom and the teacher asked me to give you the answer to this, I wouldn't be able to do so without looking it up in the book LOL
There's this article quoting Mark Cerny back in 2016 saying that, in his personal estimation, the minimal TFlops required to render games in native 4K is 8TFlops. We're talking about current gen games and not next-gen games, though.
I personally don't think the poll means that much regarding expectations because TFlops could be measured differently come Navi architecture. Although, the general expectation is 8*TFlops for any console that's aiming at (native?)4K resolution gaming next-gen, with Mark Cerny quote or not.
*current
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-the-hell-is-a-teraflop-anyway
Sony Samurais are not letting any info coming out of the building alive. Poor fellas have to resort to 4chan, where rumors get dimissed. Later this year, we'll probably find this 4chan leak from 2018 that was spot on with every first year title for the PS5 or something like that. Probably. Did this happen with the PS4/Orbis?
My expectation is next thread after and not before E3, yeah. I don't think something shocking will be revealed in the next 48 days remaining until E3 that will be enough to boost this thread's activity. Either way, I think we're required to create a new thread after E3 whether we close this one or not, though. Hopefully, we'll have a name for the Xbox console by then. If they pull the same thing they did with the X by revealing it as "Project Scorpio" for a whole year... that'd be lame. PlayStation really nailed their naming schemes by keeping it simple, at least compared to the other folks.
Spicy
The reason behind this is because we'll probably know about Anaconda by E3*, as we now know about some of PS5 specs. I could've gone with an Xbox Snek title too, but that would've been too much, IMO
*which will, hopefully, include info on the name of the console, too
If the competition has an advantage of 3-4tflops then 8tflops is definitely an insult in my eyes, I'll laugh pretty hard if it ends up having 8tflops. it'll be all my fault as I was expecting more of course.
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