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Crackhead_Bob

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,865
Well supposedly it made it's way to NY in mid Feb and it we really didn't start testing till mid March, and that's when we knew the number of infected was high.

I'd imagine it would be slower for other states since they're not as dense as NYC.

Why NY alone and not any of the other large trading and transportation states like California, D.C., or Georgia?
 

Charcoal

Member
Nov 2, 2017
7,523
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I hope all textbooks in the future will be digital so this will follow him for all time.
 

GaimeGuy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,092
Pretty sure America just topped the 1 year total for Swine Flu deaths, too

Trump administration just breaking a whole lot of records this year, huh
We toppled that a long time ago. Only 2000-3000 H1N1 deaths were actually confirmed. That 12k figure you see cited a lot is a backwards-looking estimate based on statistical modeling

The US total is probably in the 30-50k range, or even higher. We aren't doing any testing post mortem, so anyone who is hospitalized with an unknown respiratory illness and dies doesn't get counted unless a diagnosis is made before death
 

Zombine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,231
We won't have any semblance of normalcy until 2021. NYS is in for a long road of hurt and recovery.
 

WedgeX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,201
The true tragedy of Georgia, Florida, and LA won't be known for years

Yep - it'll take until at least January of 2022 to get updated mortality data for 2020, much less detailed causes of death. We'll be able to infer...which might be all we're able to do.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
3,250
NYC
I have lived here all my life and it's always one disaster after another. I'm just so tired. I just want boredom for the rest of my life. I'm sick of something always happening.

and all I hear are police sirens now. I'm in Brooklyn in a somehwta hard hit area. my office closed and I'm working from home but my girlfriend has to go work everyday.

I'm filled with dread and anxiety and weariness every single day since this happened, what if she catches it. What if my mother? or her mother in the Bronx? A diabetic who loves to guilt trip my girlfriend into visiting her. I hate that woman....
cant we just one decade where nothing happens? Just a super boring decade of nothing...
 

NESpowerhouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,680
Virginia
Rochester still (mostly) hanging in there. For a major metropolitan area, things could definitely be a lot worse over here. I'm still going into work 3 days a week since my job is considered essential, but afterwards, I almost always just head directly home
 

LQX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,871
We often brag about not needing a car to get around NY and I suspect that is the culprit in why so many NYers have this thing. Damn near everyone uses or has friends, family and or co-workers that use the MTA daily thus this thing got spread all over the city like wildfire.
 

WedgeX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,201
Why NY alone and not any of the other large trading and transportation states like California, D.C., or Georgia?

DC is trending towards bad right now (although the District is projecting a peak around June/July).

But anecdotally DC started social distancing early on - minus some instances around the Mall and Southwest Waterfront,
 

Aomame

Member
Oct 27, 2017
475
I am in NYS and so is most of my family. My mom is an essential worker and is, as of yesterday, a confirmed case. Losing her would devastate me. I'm in a more remote/rural area than her, but I know we've still been hit and I know people who are likely infected. Things are still going to get worse from here.
 

PanickyFool

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,947
Because it is run by shitty machine politicians and NYers are dying for it. Rather than have an effective beuracracy with effective leaders loyalty matters before capabilities.
 

TaterTots

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,968
Pretty sure America just topped the 1 year total for Swine Flu deaths, too

Trump administration just breaking a whole lot of records this year, huh

I don't like the Trump administration either, but I'm not sure how anyone can magically make this go away. Devastating viruses come along almost every 100 years or so. It sucks.
 

gcubed

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
We often brag about not needing a car to get around NY and I suspect that is the culprit in why so many NYers have this thing. Damn near everyone uses or has friends, family and or co-workers that use the MTA daily thus this thing got spread all over the city like wildfire.
yup. perfect petri dish to infect a LOT of people, very quickly.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,746
Yea, it's everywhere in the city. My boss, his wife, and their newborn all had it, and they definitely spread it to other cast members of their other Broadway show.

All my coworkers were super nervous when we got the texts, but so far I've had zero symptoms for weeks. Just trying to keep myself from as many humans as possible.
 

PanickyFool

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,947
yup. perfect petri dish to infect a LOT of people, very quickly.
Singapore, Taipei, Seoul, Tokyo, are not perfect petri dishes to infect a lot of people very quickly?

The NYS/C government absolutely fucked this up. Cuomo refusing to allow to city to issue shelter in place, Cuomo reducing 20000 hospital beds, BDB selling the city's stockpile of ventilators that Bloomberg bought, BDB telling people to go to their favorite bars and restaurants to support small businesses. The beuracracies being the definition of unprepared and innefective despite the city having a larger budget than most states. Residents of the city just generally being arrogant unhygienic slobs.
 

reKon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,741
yup. perfect petri dish to infect a LOT of people, very quickly.

I'm surprised that MI is double what we have in IL... (so basically Chicago). Thankfully I can work from home, but I assumed that it was going to be bad because of people needing to take the bus or the L (our trains) for work.

I'm just shocked at the difference between Chicago and New York...
 

Pandora012

Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
5,496
Why NY alone and not any of the other large trading and transportation states like California, D.C., or Georgia?
Doesn't cali have a testing backlog?

Singapore, Taipei, Seoul, Tokyo, are not perfect petri dishes to infect a lot of people very quickly?

The NYS/C government absolutely fucked this up. Cuomo refusing to allow to city to issue shelter in place, Cuomo reducing 20000 hospital beds, BDB selling the city's stockpile of ventilators that Bloomberg bought, BDB telling people to go to their favorite bars and restaurants to support small businesses. The beuracracies being the definition of unprepared and innefective despite the city having a larger budget than most states. Residents of the city just generally being arrogant unhygienic slobs.

Probably strike Tokyo from your list.
 

RochHoch

One Winged Slayer
Member
May 22, 2018
18,920
I work retail in upstate New York

I can only be grateful that my store has been getting way less traffic as of late
 

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,170
Why NY alone and not any of the other large trading and transportation states like California, D.C., or Georgia?

While there are certainly cultural and societal reasons for why NY and California appear to have differing impacts from coronavirus, and this is just a snapshot of two cities within those two states, something like this cannot be ignored:



On the same day the Mayor of SF is telling people to get ready for a prolonged lockdown, the mayor of NYC is telling people to get out and go see a movie.

California has not been immune to being impacted by coronavirus, and the true scope is probably not yet known, but leadership, at the state level and of the two major metropolitan areas, acted relatively swiftly and exercised smart judgement, something that cannot be said for a lot of other places around America.
 

Richiek

Member
Nov 2, 2017
12,063
Singapore, Taipei, Seoul, Tokyo, are not perfect petri dishes to infect a lot of people very quickly?

The NYS/C government absolutely fucked this up. Cuomo refusing to allow to city to issue shelter in place, Cuomo reducing 20000 hospital beds, BDB selling the city's stockpile of ventilators that Bloomberg bought, BDB telling people to go to their favorite bars and restaurants to support small businesses. The beuracracies being the definition of unprepared and innefective despite the city having a larger budget than most states. Residents of the city just generally being arrogant unhygienic slobs.

Agree 100%. DeBlasio waited way too late to order stay at home and close the schools when other cities and states already shut down. Plus the reports of idiots packing the bars and restaurants in NYC just before the shutdown made things even worse.
 

Seductivpancakes

user requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,790
Brooklyn
Why NY alone and not any of the other large trading and transportation states like California, D.C., or Georgia?
Cuomo and Blasio are criticized for taking it's sweet time ordering a lock down or even telling people to get ready for one.

Anyone who had to use our public transportation, especially during rush hours, should have known it was gonna be bad in NYC.
 

JaseC64

Enlightened
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,008
Strong Island NY
I posted this on the main thread but some are not following social distancing still. My cousin's gf just came over and I dont believe she washed her hands when she came in. Also apparently there her mom and herself were in quarantine at one point because her moms place had a confirmed case. Both their results came negative but i suppose my cousin gf feels she is immune or something. Christ I really wish she wouldn't come here just for everyone's sake I mean she can still get it or we could get it and pass it to her. It's just not safe. Either way, I'm boned of anyone in the house gets the virus as much as I try to be super safe about it. Sorry for my rant. Wish more people cared.
 

PHOENIXZERO

Member
Oct 29, 2017
12,095
Michigan is on further lockdown after tonight until May 1st (almost definitely to be extended again in a couple weeks) and dumbfucks are still coming from down state to my area so I'm 100% expecting the number of cases in my county to jump significantly after the next couple weeks. We're not getting out of this anytime soon because so many people don't give a shit.
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
Member
Oct 25, 2017
50,050
I still say that is only because we(USA) are not testing nearly as much.
I think when you start comparing populations to confirmed cases of the disease, that becomes more evident. Honestly, it's kind of unnerving next to the US right now.

www.worldometers.info

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

This website seems to let you sort data over population; take a look for yourself.
 

MoonScented

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
685
I wonder if American's will start rethinking the fantasy of "big city life" after this? I've always thought packing so many people into the least amount of space possible was a recipe for disaster. Those old high-rise apartments where you're basically living in a box stacked up on top of each other, all taking the same cramped old elevators, riding the old & filthy public transportation options... it never seemed ideal to me.

I hope with all my heart it only starts getting better.
 

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,170
I wonder if American's will start rethinking the fantasy of "big city life" after this? I've always thought packing so many people into the least amount of space possible was a recipe for disaster. Those old high-rise apartments where you're basically living in a box stacked up on top of each other, all taking the same cramped old elevators, riding the old & filthy public transportation options... it never seemed ideal to me.

I hope with all my heart it only starts getting better.

It's not ideal, it's often a necessity.
 

louiedog

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,299
I wonder if American's will start rethinking the fantasy of "big city life" after this? I've always thought packing so many people into the least amount of space possible was a recipe for disaster. Those old high-rise apartments where you're basically living in a box stacked up on top of each other, all taking the same cramped old elevators, riding the old & filthy public transportation options... it never seemed ideal to me.

I hope with all my heart it only starts getting better.

There are pros and cons when it comes to health.

I can walk to a world class hospital with specialists that can tackle any problem that I might come in with in a quarter the time my parents can drive or get an ambulance to take them to the shitty local hospital where they'd then have to catch a helicopter to a better facility.

People where I grew up are heavily dependent on cars but in the city I live in now, I know tons of people who walk and bike to work every single day. I also have much better access to good, healthy food than they do. These factors contribute to the overall health of these communities. Obesity and heart disease are less of a factor.
 

TAJ

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
12,446
This is incredibly sad

thehill.com

New York hires laborers to bury coronavirus victims on Hart Island potter’s field: report

New York City has hired laborers to bury coronavirus victims in its Hart Island potter’s field, as the death rate in the area continues to break records each of the last three days, Reuters re…

They're claiming that they brought in new hires to do that, but the video I watched had a prison bus parked right next to the mass grave, clear as day.
 

darkhunger

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,270
USA
I wonder if American's will start rethinking the fantasy of "big city life" after this? I've always thought packing so many people into the least amount of space possible was a recipe for disaster. Those old high-rise apartments where you're basically living in a box stacked up on top of each other, all taking the same cramped old elevators, riding the old & filthy public transportation options... it never seemed ideal to me.

I hope with all my heart it only starts getting better.
NYC isn't even that big or dense compared to some of the cities out there in the world... that have way less corona cases. And the densest parts of the city actually has the lowest infection rates. Right now the highest death rates are in Queens, Bronx and Staten Island, which are more suburban / low-rise in nature.

Blame how poorly this crisis was managed and how nonseriously people took this a few weeks ago and not the fact that it's a big city, which made this a lot worse but isn't the root cause.
 
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