Should be pretty likely as they kinda hinted years ago that once they moved to the PS4 they wanted to make battles fully seamless, after needing to make half--steps in Zestiria and Berseria.
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New Tales of game apparently leaked (including screenshots) [Tales of Arise - PS4/X1/PC]
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Should be pretty likely as they kinda hinted years ago that once they moved to the PS4 they wanted to make battles fully seamless, after needing to make half--steps in Zestiria and Berseria.
Ugh..this hype is killing me. To see tales move to the next step after 9 years, its like a dream
Oh, oh no. It was held back by an engine that was made for Tales of Symphonia. No joke. I forget who it was, when someone was analyzing the engine for one of the later Tales of games for the PC release, found out through research of it that it's engine seems to have been sourced all the way back to Symphonia. It's been heavily modified, yes, but they've been using an engine since PS2/GC era.
I hope it's good. I haven't enjoyed a Tales of game since OG Vesperia. The series really seems to have gone downhill in the last decade.
Even Berseria, which I heard a lot of people like, felt really low-budget to me, with expansive environments of nothing-at-all and a bland plot.
Fingers crossed for this one. Visually, at least, it looks like a jump.
Even Berseria, which I heard a lot of people like, felt really low-budget to me, with expansive environments of nothing-at-all and a bland plot.
Fingers crossed for this one. Visually, at least, it looks like a jump.
I haven't played a Tales game in so long. I absolutely loved Symphonia on GCN and really dug Abyss on the PS2, but just haven't been able to keep up with the series since given the near-annual pace of releases (and my generally slowed-down gaming pace over the years). I like the new art style of this, looking forward to seeing it in action. Might be my first Tales game in well over a decade.
Tales games are standalone except for direct sequels like Destiny/Destiny 2 and Xillia/Xillia 2. The most recent mothership title, Berseria, takes place in the distant past of the last game (Zestiria). Other than references to the latter, Berseria can be enjoyed without playing Zesty.
Oh damn... So the engine was that old? Glad they decided to change and be held back by such a greatly outdated engine.
Apart from Tales of Vesperia, Symphonia's spiritual successor, which is also fortunately availble as an HD/4K remaster for all platforms now, you haven't missed much. After Vesperia the time, money and effort they spent on new Tales games dropped signifcantly. This game is the first after Vesperia that seems to have gotten more time, money and effort again.
Honestly, I was surprised about that when I found out about it. I think it was.. Zestiria and Symphonia's PC ports with how it was found out, specifically. Though, given certain quirks found in the games, it makes sense in hindsight.
But yeah, if they're definitely on a new engine, that's good. Definitely was reaching what they could realistically do with it.
I read the logo as Tales of Arse for a second. Maybe not he greatest name. Happy to see one of these finally get a budget again, but I'm worried those models are gonna clash really hard against the realistic style of the environments. Excited to see more.
Im i the only one that sees lots of cel shading on the backdrop ? 🧐
Edit: or, who knows maybe its just the lightning
Graces, Xillia, and Zestiria have longer dev times than Vesperia did, probably pretty similar in cost if not moreso.
I would say years of staff restructuring and tools they've struggled to keep up to date have disrupted their workflow or held them back much more than time or money.
Lol this was my exact reaction too.
Vesperia was the last one I played and I loved it, but it's been hard to keep up.
I'd call the backgrounds painterly in style, definitely not realistic, like in most anime. So I don't think characters and backgrounds will clash at all but harmonize well.
Yeah i don't see the problem, its a different style sure, but still plenty of anime/cartoonish here and there, if anything its a refreshing change for the series
Will probably be announced at Microsoft E3 later today.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Oh geez. No information yet but just judging by the look of the main guy, I'm worried they'll take all the wrong lessons about what was fun about the Tales-flavored edginess of Berseria.
In terms of comparing with Xenoblade 2, I don't expect Tales to deviate too strongly from the flat traversal options of climbing vines or jumping from pre-determined points and having three dimensional exploration was what Xenoblade excelled at. The ability to defy areas that you'd expect invisible walls to be, the feeling of being able to go high up and jump to land on another portion of explorable land made the environments feel more alive. Tales has had some nice looking environments that look great in screenshots but you can only explore a small boxed portion of it. So comparing the fidelity of grass seems less significant.
Not that I care about exploring big overworlds in a Tales game.
In terms of comparing with Xenoblade 2, I don't expect Tales to deviate too strongly from the flat traversal options of climbing vines or jumping from pre-determined points and having three dimensional exploration was what Xenoblade excelled at. The ability to defy areas that you'd expect invisible walls to be, the feeling of being able to go high up and jump to land on another portion of explorable land made the environments feel more alive. Tales has had some nice looking environments that look great in screenshots but you can only explore a small boxed portion of it. So comparing the fidelity of grass seems less significant.
Not that I care about exploring big overworlds in a Tales game.
I hope the battle system would be as good as Graces F.
It's complex, deep, flashy, stylish, fast, hectic, chaotic, and 60 fps to boot.
It's complex, deep, flashy, stylish, fast, hectic, chaotic, and 60 fps to boot.
Hopefully they stop trying to make unnecessary battle system changes and just copy Graces F, which was perfect.
Could not agree more here, can not wait to see some gameplay.
That doesn't mean anything though. Plenty of games use old engines that are just built upon. In fact, most do when it's a long running series. 'New engines' are a rare thing.
I mean, sure, but using an engine built back in 2001/02 up until 2017 doesn't seem very common. Most of the times there does get to a point where they need to build a new engine with each turn of the generation. Square Enix tended to do this every generation change, for instance.
EDIT: Also, this could probably be chalked up to Sega being Sega, but Sonic had no consistency with any engine and except certain stretches on certain platforms, it often had an entirely new engine for each new game. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are different between games, Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic Riders, are probably the most consistent in this regards, Sonic 06's engine was not reused (outside of bringing over Havoc) outside of that game, Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations do share the same Hedgehog engine, but the Wii games often had new engines (though I believe it was confirmed the Hedgehog engine was running on the platform, but they couldn't realistically do what they wanted). Then I believe the Wii U games were all different engines, and Sonic Forces was a new engine that, while can do modern effects, struggles to be able to load as much information like the previous Hedgehog engine.
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Well, there you have it. The 2-3 seconds of combat looked incredibly different from usual Tales fare. Not gonna lie, it's incredibly different and I'm very excited. Seemingly adult protagonist is a nice plus.
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Yup. The series is completely different now.
I'm done with the series at this point.
I'm always happy for more Tales! I'm exited that they really seem to be trying something new!
That's the deal breaker for me. I play these games to play with my SO and friends so if it's real time single player the game is basically dead to me sadly :(
Lol why do people say this every time a new Tales game announced? Been hearing this since (at least) they announced Graces, and all of them have had co-op.
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