Interesting backgrounds don't indicate what gen something is
I think I recognize the background from the Wii U game but otherwise I wouldn't know the difference.
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New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe - Review Thread
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I think I recognize the background from the Wii U game but otherwise I wouldn't know the difference.
I haven't played either of them but the bottom picture is clearly a newer title. I think it's really obvious.
Nintendo just got incredibly strong 2D Jump'n'Run(Roguelike) competitors, NSMBU doesn't cut it anymore when compared to the likes of Celeste or Hollow Knight. That said it's still a great game from what I've seen and I might get it for my Switch when there's a sale. 60 Bucks seems a bit too steep for my taste, even though it includes the Luigi Addon.
Thanks so much! :)
Whoops! That's why you don't reply on mobile right after waking up. Sorry about that :p
No worries - I'm getting older so I had that moment of "oh shit wtf did I say?!"
Of course you will buy it because Switch has no games. /s
That was fairly obvious since her announcement they even went into detail showing she was easy mode, basically that's how Bowsette started.
The NSMBU challenge mode was and still is underrated.
The opposite actually. Moreso that to an untrained eye it wouldn't be readily apparent that they are separate games at all. It was a direct response to a query of that nature.
The poster I was responding to made the suggestion that the aesthetic difference between the two NSMB games was equal to the difference between SMB3 and SMW. I disagreed and made the claim above.
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The real controversy should not be the price, it should be the garbage "jump button also twirls" change!
I think Wii U 1st party ports should a get a pass from people. These have to be the lowest played AAA games of any console ever, so they deserve a second chance and I think full price is justified. Just my opinion though and I'm happy to pay $60 for this.
I'm genuinely curious, do people complain when the 4K version of Star Wars: A New Hope isn't priced at $2.99?
Orange koopas can't jump?
In that case we're in agreement and I misunderstood you.
I think gaming is a very different discussion. It's an inherently more expensive hobby because of all the expensive software you have to own. But I also think that if people can't afford something they should just not buy it and enjoy other things instead so I don't have much of a stance on the "it's too expensive" argument.
I'm ready for the flurry of negative responses this could net me but if you're one of the people outraged that it's $60 - this isn't for you. Don't buy it. Pretty simple. There are people willing to pay that price and therefore they will and your angry posts won't change that.
I own both U and Luigi U and only learnt about challenge mode now, lol
When I saw it in the OT initially I thought it was new in the port.
People complaining about the price of a port of a game they already played will never be not weird for me.
Yes, it does. It already unlocked in my country. Playing it at 1:28 AM and having fun :P Luckily no work tomorrow.
Rather than ranting in the OT for this game I feel this is the only place I can express my feelings, I honestly feel betrayed by Nintendo with all these Wii-U ports, the only reason I buy Nintendo hardware is for first party games, all I want from Nintendo is a new MK game and a 2d Mario and instead of new games we get these pumped out at full RRP, it's a piss-take seriously, I've played these games to death on the Wii-U.
Ports in themselves aren't always a bad thing but Nintendo are blatantly re-releasing these ports instead of making new iterations, I was there day one in Dixons grabbing a NES with duck hunt back in the day but honestly I've had enough now, those that bought and continued to support the Wii-U are just getting a slap in the face with these ports, I can't be the only one that feels this way?
Ports in themselves aren't always a bad thing but Nintendo are blatantly re-releasing these ports instead of making new iterations, I was there day one in Dixons grabbing a NES with duck hunt back in the day but honestly I've had enough now, those that bought and continued to support the Wii-U are just getting a slap in the face with these ports, I can't be the only one that feels this way?
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I feel ya mate I'm in the same boat, but the Wii U bombed so hard it only makes sense for them to do this. Hopefully new iterations have been developing in the background whilst these ports were done.
I get that you might be tired of ports, that's understandable, but they're not making ports *instead* of making new ones, they're simply taking more time to make new ones.
Due to having a console with the automatic added effect of portability and having a stellar catalogue stuck in a failed console that barely no one played, they're in a good position to use these remasters effectively to recover costs while making new games.
It's not like you didn't get a brand new Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Smash and a new IP like Arms released in less than two years. And a new Yoshi soon.
The pricing is terrible but am I missing something who said new games weren't being made?
The Wii U could be a $300 box that had The Wonderful 101 inside with the disk drive welded shut and I'd still be more than pleased with my purchase. The Wii U's library wasn't huge but it hit way above its weight class in the number of all-time bangers in that small group.
Are they? MK8D sold more last year than it did in 2017. Are they really going to be releasing sequels to DKC, NSMB, MK, and CT on the Switch in the future when these games seem to be selling millions and millions and millions of copies and fulfilling the role that would usually be held by a sequel specifically designed for the platform?
Who knows, maybe Nintendo will put out an MK9, DKC6, a NSMB5, and CT2 on the Switch in the next few years, but I would not hold my breath.
People say this but I feel like it's trying to justify the purchase than being objective. Wii u library honestly wasn't that different from any Nintendo library but with all time bad 3rd party support and less games
Depends how much you care about Nintendo exclusives. Personally in every console I've owned, I never had more than 20 games, I'm not a quantity guy. Some of the games I played in Wii U are among my favorites.
I'm kinda jealous of all people going into this for the first time. I will boot my Wii U to get some tonight!
Oof, this old chestnut.
I'm kind of in the fence when it comes to full priced WiiU ports on Switch. I never owned a WiiU, so on one hand I'm stoked to have the chance to enjoy Mario Kart 8 DX, and I'd happily pay full retail for ports of Twilight Princess or Wind Waker HD. But when it comes to a port of a platformer, full price is hard to swallow. There's just no way something like DKTF or NSMBU cost as much to make as something like BotW or Mario Odyssey (edit: or MK8). $60 for a port of a cheap-to-make game feels a little insulting to me.
However, if you're super into platformers and are fine with the price, more power to you. Have fun!
I'm kind of in the fence when it comes to full priced WiiU ports on Switch. I never owned a WiiU, so on one hand I'm stoked to have the chance to enjoy Mario Kart 8 DX, and I'd happily pay full retail for ports of Twilight Princess or Wind Waker HD. But when it comes to a port of a platformer, full price is hard to swallow. There's just no way something like DKTF or NSMBU cost as much to make as something like BotW or Mario Odyssey (edit: or MK8). $60 for a port of a cheap-to-make game feels a little insulting to me.
However, if you're super into platformers and are fine with the price, more power to you. Have fun!
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ahhh this old chestnut, equating production costs to the retail price of a product. Should Rockstar have charged significantly more than $60 for RDR2, considering it was one of the most expensive games ever made?
No, because it was clearly going to sell like crazy, thereby making its money back handily.
Troll harder.
Edit: also RDR2 will no doubt be crammed full of MTX soon (if not already, I don't play it). So the game isn't really just $60 anyway.
lol
you definitely don't understand how the market works
This forum's insistence on calling people who disagree trolls is maddening.
The Wii U sold like shite. These ports are for the audience who never bought them. It's an easy move from Nintendo and the profits will go into new games for you to enjoy.
Which...is why they know they can port these games for full price...this is everyone's point who is buying this game.
Go on then, John Maynard Keynes; explain it to me. I'm honestly interested in reasons for why a port of an old platformer is worth $60. I get that for many people it's very much worth it and they're happy. I'm just saying that, FOR ME, $60 isn't a price I'm willing to pay for this title.
So... Leave? The dude just made a hugely mocking/dismissive post without actually providing any context or counter argument. But if that's just "disagreeing" to you, maybe you'd be more at home elsewhere?
You answered your own question there.
NSMB U Deluxe will sell 10 million copies at full price so why should they sell it for $40?
If you've already played it or don't feel it's worth the price then wait for a price drop (lol) or don't buy it and move on with your life.
It's fine you aren't willing to pay $60 for this title. You made the argument retail price should be linked to development and production costs. Outside of things like cart costs, this is not how the entertainment industry as a whole determines price. You don't pay more for a standard ticket to see Infinity War because it cost hundreds of millions more to produce than the latest film from Quentin Tarantino.
If they're not working on sequels to those games, then they're working on either other IP or making new IPs. It's not as if they're sitting around and doing nothing. At the very least, if Nintendo is fine with making sequels on the same system for a 3D Mario, I don't see why that'd be an issue for 2D Mario, Donkey Kong, and Captain Toad, albeit I can see the latter being more of a one and done type of game that they don't plan to explore again
Play with Mii didn't exactly stand out as a great option - much like some of Kirby menu designs it just doesn't make sense to me to choose my game mode before I choose my save file? Anyway lesson learnt I guess (many years too late and as someone who was a full supporter of Wii u)
The fact you somehow never realised that the option labelled Challenges would lead you to Challenge Mode is Nintendo's fault...?
Yep totally my fault, and also something many reviewers in retrospect have mentioned they didn't know about (inc Alex from nintendolife) still had fun with the main game and Luigi u back on release
How likely is Nintendo to patch in a toggle option? They seem pretty stubborn with that sort of thing, and I'm not familiar how responsive they are to patching issues like this.
Games aren't simply priced in accordance to how much they cost to make. There are a lot of other factors involved there.
Granted, I am in the same boat that the only WiiU port I bought full price was MK8 but I had a WiiU and passed on TF and NSMBU so full price late ports dont work for me either.
But the assumption that cost of production should be reflected in sales price is flawed. The price charged is in relation to what the publisher believes will deliver maximum profit.
Wonderful 101 is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time and 3D World is up there with Galaxy as my favorite Mario game so I don't think I'm trying to justify anything. Breath of the Wild is in my top 10 too depending on if you want to count that.
I'm not saying the Wii U is the best library ever, or that it's better than many other Nintendo consoles — I'm just saying that for me personally it was EASILY worth the upfront cost for the 10ish games I really enjoyed on it.
I'm not sure Galaxy 2 9 years ago is really them being okay with making sequels to their evergreen games. I'm sure they are working on stuff for the Switch, I just don't think it's sequels to games people have been waiting 5-6 years for at this point, which is understandably a bummer.
Well the Wii U had its life cut rather short and there was a lot of crossover in software between the Wii U and the 3DS, so there wasn't much room for sequels on the same system for a lot of series. If it's not sequels, which stuff like Mario Kart and whatnot are unlikely to receive, than they're at least working on something different. I mainly used Super Mario Galaxy 2 as an example because there's precedent for them doing so and, in this case, due to the likes of NSMBU and DKC: TF being ports, there's room for making a brand new 2D Mario or DKC as ports don't take much resources
There's something so satisfying about the UI on the Wii U Mario games. Hope Nintendo returns to that style.