Hah, yeah, probably just wishful thinking on my part. The world doesn't seem that big, and the island layout could be a good way to construct things more modularly. Who knows!
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New Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Trailer [12 January 2021] (Good Vibes Gaming Analysis at Threadmarks)
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Hah, yeah, probably just wishful thinking on my part. The world doesn't seem that big, and the island layout could be a good way to construct things more modularly. Who knows!
I shamefully couldn't beat the final level of the original. It's the only 3D Mario game I haven't reached 100% in and I was all ready to reclaim my honor. Then today's trailer dropped and completely blew my mind!
Yeah, I can see the cat now lol... It can't be a coincidence knowing Nintendo... :p
I appreciate the faces for clarityMmm... maybe, right one too.
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ah, well... maybe you're right....
Mmm... maybe, right one too.
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ah HA! i knew it!! purrfect rendition hamster ;3
edit: we need someone to investigate the waves... some look suspiciously feline...
I understand why people were expecting an expansion to 3D World but the ' "+" Bowser's Fury' always presented it as a completely separate thing, just like Bowser Jr's Journey that was added with the Bowser Inside Story remake.
Yup, Mario went Super Saiyan. Just like Sonic went Super Saiyan.
lol the Mario Goku memes are flooding Twitter today and I love it.
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There's a snowy area in today's video. Don't know if it's part of a larger map or separate.
It looks to me like the Bowser thing is a recurring event. I don't think we've seen any of the endgame, and we've only seen brief spurts of each area.
"Why would they release this with 3D World"
Geez I dunno maybe to entice people who already played it to buy it again!? And it's not enough content to justify its own release?
Like, it's a bonus mode. They could have just released a straight port of 3D World and people who never played it would buy it, and people who already played it would maybe buy it. They include a new mode of whatever length to it to entice those who bought it on the Wii U, and it's a bonus for those who didn't. They did the same thing with the Mario + Luigi ports on the 3DS.
I don't think even Nintendo expects anyone to see Bowser's Fury as worth $60 by itself, it's the entire package that's worth $60. A 3D Mario title with a ton of content that not very many people played, plus Bowser's Fury. Releasing it as standalone software for people who have ZERO desire to play through 3D World again would be nice, absolutely, but that would probably defeat the purpose of using it as a carrot to get people to buy the entire thing again. Nintendo are a business, they want your money. There's no reason not to wait until it's cheaper or buy it used if all you want is the Bowser's Fury content, right?
Geez I dunno maybe to entice people who already played it to buy it again!? And it's not enough content to justify its own release?
Like, it's a bonus mode. They could have just released a straight port of 3D World and people who never played it would buy it, and people who already played it would maybe buy it. They include a new mode of whatever length to it to entice those who bought it on the Wii U, and it's a bonus for those who didn't. They did the same thing with the Mario + Luigi ports on the 3DS.
I don't think even Nintendo expects anyone to see Bowser's Fury as worth $60 by itself, it's the entire package that's worth $60. A 3D Mario title with a ton of content that not very many people played, plus Bowser's Fury. Releasing it as standalone software for people who have ZERO desire to play through 3D World again would be nice, absolutely, but that would probably defeat the purpose of using it as a carrot to get people to buy the entire thing again. Nintendo are a business, they want your money. There's no reason not to wait until it's cheaper or buy it used if all you want is the Bowser's Fury content, right?
Yes. This is Super Mario 3D World, with Bowser's Fury as a new game added in as a bonus.
I have been watching the trailer dozens of times the past 6 hours... THIS is what I want from a 3D Mario with a sandbox level design approach. I didn't like Odyssey that much for multiple reasons and the biggest was that the level design felt bland and very basic with repetitive exploration and little to no platforming, and when platforming happens, it's under a pipe with basic soulless colored cubes that looks like it was made using Mario Maker 3D. Very little of them offered excellent platforming or interesting ideas and that disappointed me a little because Odyssey felt amazing to control and move around, but I needed to put these movement in action instead of 'exploring' wide areas with little interesting things to do. I know this isn't an odyssey thread so I won't go on that. Let's keep moving for now...
Back to the topic, I was happy with how Bowser's Fury looked like, an open-world yet dense with platforming and neat ideas! I hope 3D Mario titles moves in this direction because it satisfies both parties, as the level design is great and changes due to what currently is happening with Bowser, and the exploration and moving around between islands is great as well. What was shown in this trailer alone featured more pure platforming than what Odyssey offered me so I'm glad the focus on platforming and fun level design is back. Of course I haven't talked about how Bowser is REALLY intimidating!! Holy shit bowser is FUCKING PISSED!! I like the idea of him disrupting your exploration and gathering of these power suns or whatever they're called. I really hope that the battle between God-Slayer Bowser and Super Sayian Mario is a real boss battle and not a chase sequence (not that I mind the chase sequence type of boss battles, but they don't fit here imo). The soundtrack is really awesome here, from the joyful track in the beginning to the death metal orchestra bowser theme. Overall, even though we still know nothing on how BF will exactly play out, the trailer made way more excited than I should, but I don't care! The theory about Bowser's Fury being a rougelike really blows my mind, but I don't think it will happen... But if it did? that would be extra sick and something to play for so long! either way, less than a month to go and I really can't wait!!
Back to the topic, I was happy with how Bowser's Fury looked like, an open-world yet dense with platforming and neat ideas! I hope 3D Mario titles moves in this direction because it satisfies both parties, as the level design is great and changes due to what currently is happening with Bowser, and the exploration and moving around between islands is great as well. What was shown in this trailer alone featured more pure platforming than what Odyssey offered me so I'm glad the focus on platforming and fun level design is back. Of course I haven't talked about how Bowser is REALLY intimidating!! Holy shit bowser is FUCKING PISSED!! I like the idea of him disrupting your exploration and gathering of these power suns or whatever they're called. I really hope that the battle between God-Slayer Bowser and Super Sayian Mario is a real boss battle and not a chase sequence (not that I mind the chase sequence type of boss battles, but they don't fit here imo). The soundtrack is really awesome here, from the joyful track in the beginning to the death metal orchestra bowser theme. Overall, even though we still know nothing on how BF will exactly play out, the trailer made way more excited than I should, but I don't care! The theory about Bowser's Fury being a rougelike really blows my mind, but I don't think it will happen... But if it did? that would be extra sick and something to play for so long! either way, less than a month to go and I really can't wait!!
Great trailer. I hope the open world is zoned as others have suggested.
Also, the memes have been glorious. More please.
Also, the memes have been glorious. More please.
I went searching the Japanese internet and didn't see any mention of "God-Slayer Bowser". Most places are just referring to it as giant bowser. If someone finds it, let me know, but right now I don't think it's real.
Me too! My patience with the Wii U hardware did not last the amount of attempts I needed to beat the final level.
Maybe I'll go give it a try one day... or I'll just replay the whole game on Switch
That all sounds good on paper, but the logic falls apart for a couple of reasons. Largely, there is no need for them to attach this to 3D World for it to sell. They've already proven they can port over titles with minimal additions and still have it sell incredibly well. It's a 3D Mario title that's going to be new to the majority of people, not some random RPG spin-off that a fraction of the regular audience cares about, and Nintendo fans are notorious double dippers so this game didn't 'need' anything.
Secondly, and the part that seemed to maybe go over your head in relation to some of the reaction, was that this trailer didn't really do much of a job explaining what this is to begin with. You call it a 'bonus mode,' but there's nothing here to indicate it's just a bonus mode. It seems like it's being treated as its own standalone thing, and it's not even clear if the co-op aspect of the main game is even part of it, and it also looks to play vastly different than 3D World. That's mainly what has confused people as to the nature of the expansion, not so much a 'why put this with 3D World' in the financial sense. Anybody can figure that out lol. I think it's more about the lack of clarifying details about what it is. That may have been what Nintendo wanted, too, who knows, maybe they want to have some shroud of mystery over it for marketing reasons. But it's less the confusion about the why and more about what that I think people are perplexed by.
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Deep Dive - Bowser's Fury Gameplay Trailer Analysis (Super Mario 3D World)
Nintendo has finally revealed what to expect from the new Bowser's Fury mode in the Switch port of Super Mario 3D World and it looks amazing! But what is the...
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Feel that this deserves its own topic especially under the current circumstances that people may not know where Derrick is at now.
