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New regular Switch model with upgraded battery life announced! Same price, launches end of August (Old model: 2.5-6.5 hours, New model: 4.5-9.0 hours)
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People have already hacked the original model to increase speeds at the expense of battery life, so it's not out of the question for either, really.
They have already added in new modes since launch.
Remember how many models of GBA, DS, and 3DS there were. I don't know if it's something people will agree is a Pro, but there will definitely be at least a couple more models of the original generation Switch.
Great news. I'll stick with my older-model unit (I don't have nearly enough disposable income for such minor upgrades) but my roommates have been entertaining the notion of adding a second Switch to our household later this year and this will be a pleasant incentive for them.
I don't trust those numbers. The current model is 6.5 hours? I don't get that much juice on indies with low brightness.
I'll take that 4.5 hour battery life for the new model and accept it but doubt the 9 hour claim.
I'll take that 4.5 hour battery life for the new model and accept it but doubt the 9 hour claim.
I see what you're saying - dev modes are certainly possible and would be great. I was more thinking along the lines of PS4 Pro's user enabled boost toggle.
Everyone is saying "mid-August", so do we not have a firm release date yet? I've got a week-long trip right around there so this new model would be perfect for that.
Any chance of slightly better quality screen (not resolution of course) or would different LCD panel be asking too much for console revision/update like this?
Battery life is tempting to upgrade but not really needed. I usually play in bed or on couch where I have easy access to the wall adapter to stay plugged in if I'm running low on juice.
Better battery life combined with a slightly better screen (slightly better contrast or colors) and I'd do it though...
Battery life is tempting to upgrade but not really needed. I usually play in bed or on couch where I have easy access to the wall adapter to stay plugged in if I'm running low on juice.
Better battery life combined with a slightly better screen (slightly better contrast or colors) and I'd do it though...
The battery is the exact same one as the OG Switch. They are just using a much more efficient processor.
I guess most important complaints for Nintendo were the price, portability and battery life. They gave their answer to each.
Now time to sit back and see how the market responds. Neither announcement really renders OG Switch obsolete so sales should still be steady for the next month or so.
Now time to sit back and see how the market responds. Neither announcement really renders OG Switch obsolete so sales should still be steady for the next month or so.
Do you also put it in airplane mode to save on battery usage?
Exact same capacity.
I can't wait for the teardown and comparison. I'd love to see what those show.
Except that would involve playing a WiiU. Tried it again a few months ago. It was painful.
Wait a minute, only the launch Switches have a JDi display? I thought all switches do. What the hell do theuly use now and is it a noticeable difference?
yes the colors are now more warm at least on the secondary switch that I have.
Launch switch is a cooler hue
If you already have the OG you can just grab a power bank for cheap.
The OG Switch screen is an IPS one I think? Which is one of the better ones out there. The only better panel they could provide over this is an OLED one.
Yeah I know we have all this time to enjoy the switch which is great, but I'm still a bit salty about it. Its just me.
Oh god damn it, I hate using warm tones on my phone LCD, it just feels so wrong. Is the warmer hue like the 3DS on a lower brightness or is it at least 3DS high brightness warm?
The rough number I have is 3 hours for Zelda to 5.5 hours for Zelda, a ~83% battery life increase.
If they changed the CPU out, 12nm could make sense, there are other components using less energy too, the screen and memory are likely using much less energy.
The power consumption going from 9 watts for Zelda to under 5 watts, it's a feat on 12nm imo. Having said that, being anything newer than 12nm would make it the first chip Nvidia put on a newer process node. We will be able to know for sure when the device comes out, the T210 is 121mm^2, if it's something newer, it will be more dense, smaller.
The question here isn't whether this thing can run higher clockspeeds or not, because it can (definitely in docked mode and in handheld mode only at the expense of battery life). The question is whether Nintendo lets it.
TSMC doesn't offer a 14nm node and their so-called 12nm process is in fact just an optimised version of their 16nm process that they're calling 12nm purely for marketing reasons. 7nm is probably still too new of a process for Nintendo to use at this point, so it's gotta be the 16nm node.
What's interesting is that a 20nm->16nm die shrink cannot account for an increase of total battery life by 40% to a maximum of 80%. There's gotta be something else that they did. Maybe the LPDDR4x clinches it, maybe the NAND draws less power or (hopefully not) they went with a cheaper display. I guess we'll just have to wait and see until someone does a teardown.
TSMC doesn't offer a 14nm node and their so-called 12nm process is in fact just an optimised version of their 16nm process that they're calling 12nm purely for marketing reasons. 7nm is probably still too new of a process for Nintendo to use at this point, so it's gotta be the 16nm node.
What's interesting is that a 20nm->16nm die shrink cannot account for an increase of total battery life by 40% to a maximum of 80%. There's gotta be something else that they did. Maybe the LPDDR4x clinches it, maybe the NAND draws less power or (hopefully not) they went with a cheaper display. I guess we'll just have to wait and see until someone does a teardown.
I'm assuming it will phase out the original. After all it does have a new packaging. So it's easier to detect.
When I played Shovel Knight in the launch month I had the impression it would last more than 5 hours for sure.
there probably isn't a set release date, they'll just show up on shelves when they show up on shelves
I don't think a cheaper LCD display would account for a battery savings. They could have changed out backlighting maybe to something more efficient I supposed, but that would probably be at a higher cost for the part.
5.5 for Zelda really does feel more like 12 than 16, it's pretty big. But I wonder how efficient those new RAM chips really are
I want to learn from early adopter commenters in this thread. I feel I can achieve new states of meditative rest if I can learn to void my mind in the same way that you've managed to void your mind to make this post of yours.
I'm a bit disappointed at no performance uplift (I was expecting a little boost) bu it's cool for new owners. I'm not upgrading I guess.
I didn't like it at first but I adjusted super quick I actually forgot about it until you asked about it...
I would compare it to the launch 3DS cool hue to the warmer 3DS screens that came later yes... I don't have my launch unit with me to snap a comparison photo though... Its still a pretty good screen and going back makes me think maybe the screen WAS a bit too cool to begin with ... But yeah ... I prefer cool tones as well
I think speculating is useless when it's coming out in a month. The SoC is different, but so is the LPDDR4X memory, maybe the display is new as well, and newer LCD displays are more efficient. (That's a huge power sink as well)
To really know what's in it, we will have to see teardowns and measurements of power consumption.
Yeah at 25fps 😂
It's great to have owned it at launch, then be able to afford both the Lite and updated standard model 😊
It's not rocket science I have a launch switch, and now I want the one with nearly double the battery life.
But to answer your post, not much thought went into it because its a very obvious thing.
So the only mental void is coming from your lack of intelligence.
I think I'm gonna sit this out for a bit and see if:
- There are any quality issues with the screen or controllers
- There are any performance boosts in existing/new games
- Nintendo decides to swap in new colors for Joy-Con as part of the bundle
Might revisit whether it's worth it around the third anniversary of the system in March.
- There are any quality issues with the screen or controllers
- There are any performance boosts in existing/new games
- Nintendo decides to swap in new colors for Joy-Con as part of the bundle
Might revisit whether it's worth it around the third anniversary of the system in March.
It's the same battery, its the chipset that makes it more energy efficient
Such a shame they couldn't get this into the Lite. 7 hours isn't so bad compared to 9, but still, the whole point of the Lite is the portability, you'd think they'd have gotten such a huge bump on it.
But of course it's all due to the battery size, plus the vents being smaller on the Lite. Was it not possible to use the same battery size at all, or better a smaller one physically, but with the power of the normal one? I guess that might not exist yet or is too expensive. Plus again the smaller vents would make heat production an issue.
But of course it's all due to the battery size, plus the vents being smaller on the Lite. Was it not possible to use the same battery size at all, or better a smaller one physically, but with the power of the normal one? I guess that might not exist yet or is too expensive. Plus again the smaller vents would make heat production an issue.
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