my god, it'd be amazing. Just give me a JRPG party's worth of neglected Pokémon. Dunsparce can be the thief.
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New Pokémon Sword and Shield Info (Rivals, Team, Galarian Forms, cross-gen Evos)
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my god, it'd be amazing. Just give me a JRPG party's worth of neglected Pokémon. Dunsparce can be the thief.
Yeah, that was clearly aimed at Morpeko and no one hinted at it previously.
I really don't see why that image collage deserves more discussion, it doesn't predict anything announced yesterday
The 8-ball being a reference to Weezing is pure coincidence, what does Galar Weezing have to do with an 8-ball? That image hints more at a Dark type based on the message. Also, the Clefable is hinting more at a Ghost/Fairy Galar form to me. Everything else is just piggybacking off the other leak, guessing based on the elephant teapot meme or just random guesses, and honestly lazy ones at that. A football player, a knight and a dragon pokemon, seriously? Plus a Gorilla pokemon which is almost certainly not true since there's already a new ape pokemon in the game
The japanese riddler during the Sun/Moon reveal cycle always used things from other leaks and added his own riddles too (and they were legit), so I think this might be the same.
I love that you somewhat always manage to keep track of stuff like this lmao
When are we getting a Galarian Gumshoos based on Boris Johnson? We already have one resembling trump, if this is truly a British game then they need to make a Boris Johnson one just to commemorate brexit since the game will Be releasing right after it likely happens
Lol :(
I agree. It seems weird Meowth would have both Alolan and Galarian forms and evos. You'd think the idea of revisiting old Pokémon would avoid Pokémon they have already revisited - especially so recently.
Think of the merchandising opportunities, though.
Did any see the HootHoot in the Japanese trailer holding a wand and on its head it's hair looked liked a book in the pokejobs section.
So did they accidentally reveal another Galorian form?
So did they accidentally reveal another Galorian form?
Nah, I don't think so, they already showed regular Hoothoot in the trailers.
My brain is an odd one.
I can name all Pokémon in National Pokédex order. I can also give the number for any Pokémon without checking.
Makes my job on the site soooo much easier but I know it's not normal haha
i feel like this is normal when you play the games a lot.
i play mainly for collecting and can do it too.
Hoothoot was already shown (in the first trailer, actually) so there is no Galarian Hoothoot. I think it's just meant to be a little cartoon because owls are obviously associated with knowledge.
It's sort of hard to imagine a Hoothoot with a book for a head anyway.
That would only be faithful if you automatically capture it and it's in your team for 5 years despite you never choosing it.
When are we getting a Galarian Gumshoos based on Boris Johnson? We already have one resembling trump, if this is truly a British game then they need to make a Boris Johnson one just to commemorate brexit since the game will Be releasing right after it likely happens
Lol :(
That's a pure coincidence. Anyone could have predicted some sort of toff design, but the fact that it's on a Magic 8 Ball makes me think the artist was imagining something else entirely
Been thinking about Galarian forms and evolutions and who might get the makeover. Regional forms and evolutions are one of my favorite Pokémon features so I'm really excited about it. Some bulleted thoughts.
1. We saw regular Koffing before we saw Galarian Weezing, which seems to indicate there is no Galarian Koffing. Thus we know that Base Stage Pokémon can receive Galarian Evolutions. Note, however, that Koffing could already evolve. [EDIT: Hold this thought. I could have sworn we saw normal Koffing in the Wild Area but I may be mistaken. If so, this theory loses a pillar. I will try to verify this when I get home from work.]
2. Obstagoon, a regional evolution, can only evolve from Galarian Linoone. Almost certainly, normal Linoone cannot evolve in to Galarian Linoone. The normal Zizagoon line likely does not exist in Galar and probably cannot be imported under the new Dex restrictions.
Both of these fit neatly in to Joe's long-touted and at this point probably true Eviolite theory: that the reason we never saw new evolutions after Gen 4 was due to the introduction of Eviolite. Eviolite, which grants a 50% boost to Defense and Special Defense for Pokémon that were not fully evolved, would suddenly work on a previously fully evolved Pokémon. This would create a continuity error or possibly make Pokémon overpowered.
This is why normal Linoone should not be expected to evolve in to Obstagoon under any circumstances. Galarian Linoone will be compatible with Eviolite whereas normal Linoone will not. This does not create the continuity issue that has, in theory, limited the addition of new evolutions to existing lines.
We can therefore infer from this:
1. Pokémon that already evolve can get Galarian Evolutions (ex. Koffing).
2. Pokémon that do not generally evolve will receive completely redesigned lines (ex. Zigzagoon and Linoone)
If we apply this understanding to Farfetch'd, rumored to evolve in to Sirfetch'd, we can safely assume Farfetch'd will receive both a Galarian Form and a Galarian Evolution a la Zigzagoon due to the fact Farfetch'd does not generally evolve.
Furthermore, when speculating on Galarian Forms, it might be helpful to observe these rules as dictated by the theory. Grumpig, for example, could not receive a Galarian Evolution. Instead, the entire Spoink line would be remade to accommodate the new third stage and not have a consistency issue with Eviolite.
1. We saw regular Koffing before we saw Galarian Weezing, which seems to indicate there is no Galarian Koffing. Thus we know that Base Stage Pokémon can receive Galarian Evolutions. Note, however, that Koffing could already evolve. [EDIT: Hold this thought. I could have sworn we saw normal Koffing in the Wild Area but I may be mistaken. If so, this theory loses a pillar. I will try to verify this when I get home from work.]
2. Obstagoon, a regional evolution, can only evolve from Galarian Linoone. Almost certainly, normal Linoone cannot evolve in to Galarian Linoone. The normal Zizagoon line likely does not exist in Galar and probably cannot be imported under the new Dex restrictions.
Both of these fit neatly in to Joe's long-touted and at this point probably true Eviolite theory: that the reason we never saw new evolutions after Gen 4 was due to the introduction of Eviolite. Eviolite, which grants a 50% boost to Defense and Special Defense for Pokémon that were not fully evolved, would suddenly work on a previously fully evolved Pokémon. This would create a continuity error or possibly make Pokémon overpowered.
This is why normal Linoone should not be expected to evolve in to Obstagoon under any circumstances. Galarian Linoone will be compatible with Eviolite whereas normal Linoone will not. This does not create the continuity issue that has, in theory, limited the addition of new evolutions to existing lines.
We can therefore infer from this:
1. Pokémon that already evolve can get Galarian Evolutions (ex. Koffing).
2. Pokémon that do not generally evolve will receive completely redesigned lines (ex. Zigzagoon and Linoone)
If we apply this understanding to Farfetch'd, rumored to evolve in to Sirfetch'd, we can safely assume Farfetch'd will receive both a Galarian Form and a Galarian Evolution a la Zigzagoon due to the fact Farfetch'd does not generally evolve.
Furthermore, when speculating on Galarian Forms, it might be helpful to observe these rules as dictated by the theory. Grumpig, for example, could not receive a Galarian Evolution. Instead, the entire Spoink line would be remade to accommodate the new third stage and not have a consistency issue with Eviolite.
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This all makes sense in general , but how would eviolite be a continuity issue? Also I'd change zigzagoon to linoone in your post, because linoone is the one that didn't evolve before
Good theorizing though. Where did we see koffing in Galar?
Hoping against hope that Donphan gets a Galar form or Evolution
Very well put, this indeed does seem to be the situation. Theoretically this could mean Pokemon with regular base stage Pokemon but 2nd stage Alolan Forms could have a new Galarian Form AND a 3rd stage, but I feel that would be a bit much considering they were all Kanto Pokemon. In any case I'm more interested to see if Sinnoh Remakes also have new regional forms and introduce Sinnohan Evolutions, cause it would make a ton of sense for Gen 1-3 Pokemon to get such updates in that region.
The continuity issue is simply that Eviolite would suddenly become compatible with a Pokémon it previously was not. For example, if Grumpig got an evolution, Grumpig would now benefit from Eviolite even though it didn't in previous games.
This seems like a super minor problem that nobody on Earth would ever care about. I've argued against the validity of this theory for like 5 years. It seems ridiculous to be hung up on this minor detail when other major forms of evolution have been retconned in the past (Umbreon, Espeon, Milotic, etc) due to mechanical changes. It seems like a theory that immediately disproves itself due to how incredibly arbitrary and inconsistent it is within Pokémon history. It is a major restriction on the series due to an incredibly minor and mundane consequence of having one Pokémon now be able to use one item it previously could not.
And yet, here we are, and the first new evolutions we see since 2006 adhere perfectly to these rules. I'm waving my white flag. I don't actually know if it's the real justification but I can no longer deny that these theorized rules appear to be observed in Sword & Shield.
Edit: Oh, and normal Koffing was shown in footage of the Wild Area at one point.
Additionally very few Pokemon will suddenly become overpowered by having access to Eviolite. Chansey is the only Pokemon off the top of my head that actually sees more use than its evolution due to it.
The only thing that I would've preferred for Galarian Weezing is for it to be Poison/Steel instead of Poison/Fairy. Reason being Poison/Steel would've fit more perfectly with its Steam Punk design.
I don't even think it's an issue of power. I think that concern is secondary. I think the idea is simply "this Pokémon will be able to use Eviolite even though it couldn't previously and we cannot have that." For reasons I cannot explain, at least according to the theory, this is why fresh evolutions to existing lines never happened again after Generation IV.
I won't argue that it makes sense or that it's rational or reasonable. I think it's ridiculous. But I can't deny it any longer. I am willing to accept that this has been the train of thought all these years after seeing how the feature was finally re-introduced. The Eviolite Theory, however stupid the justification, is a perfect explanation for why this extremely popular feature was dropped and how it was finally brought back.
It could still be complete nonsense but it works. 🤷♂️
It's about throwing s bunch of shit against the wall and seeing which is most profitable.
They can't do regional Eevee's because it's the evolution Pokémon and brings in money threw its evolution and they have to be care with the electric Rat so Meowth is their experiment Pokémon. Alolan Meowth and Alolan Persian wasn't a commercial hit with the mass market but Meowth is Marketable because of Team Rocket Meowth so TRY AGAIN!!!
Wasn't it??
Isn't it on your website, too?
I thought for sure but perhaps I am misremembering. Do you remember? I feel as though I remember it vividly but now I am not so sure. I edited my post above just in case I am wrong. Unfortunately I am at work and can't rewatch all the footage and try to find it.
I'm not sure, but I think I've heard that Dusclops is better than Dusknoir due to Eviolite.
I have Koffing there because Weezing evolves from Koffing. If a Galarian Koffing appears, then it'll change but until then, regardless, Koffing is technically confirmed
I meant before yesterday, but perhaps I have a false memory. I remember it so vividly but I am also of poor health recently so who knows what's going on in my brain.
Since I am unable to verify my own recollection I will have to cede I am misremembering. I will have to adjust the post above accordingly. Thank you for the correction in any case.
Eh I think it's a big stretch. Would have been way more telling if it was a hamster on a wheel or something
Ah I see, it definitely makes sense for that eviolite thing to be the case. I agree it's kind of a dumb reason though lol
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Please for the love of god Gamefreak, give Bede an Impidimp
PLEASE
Just wait for the inevitable new Charizard/Mewtwo forms.
I haven't checked if you did but maybe put a disclaimer by the Koffing letting viewers know it's isn't necessarily confirm to be in the game in its Kanto form.
A lot of the community use your site for official information so it can lead to misinformation spreading as official information when it hasn't even been confirmed yet. It'll also save you a minor headache in the long run.
my theory is that Jesse and James are going to make a cameo in this game
I would assume that if Koffing had a Galarian form they would have revealed it alongside Weezing
I don't think they've ever revealed only one evolution in a line that has a new form before
Impidimp doesn't have a reveal because its evo is Devilman inspired and Bede's main.
I agree but with Game Freak there's always that off chance and it won't hurt Joe in the long run just in case there is a Galarian Koffing as he deals with ass wipes who loves nit picking and exaggerating every minor mistake he makes.
Really love this design. I always find the fanart community fantastic. On another note, I am really glad the regional forms are staying. Was one of my favourite things from Sun/Moon.
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They revealed Alolan Meowth months ahead of Alolan Persian.
I am going to try to watch the available footage to find Koffing because I was so sure we had seen it in the Wild Area but won't be able to for many hours. If anyone with more time than me takes a look on their own, let me know.
Kinda bummed if I am misremembering that. I was so sure. It's impossible to Google now because all the results are just about Galarian Weezing. But I assume if we'd seen Koffing it would have been on Joe's dex page before yesterday.
Kinda bummed if I am misremembering that. I was so sure. It's impossible to Google now because all the results are just about Galarian Weezing. But I assume if we'd seen Koffing it would have been on Joe's dex page before yesterday.
That's what I'm hoping for. Would be so good.
Yeah fair enough
Ah my mistake then
