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New photos and impressions of the DualSense has leaked; battery capacity is 1560mA
- Thread starter Toumari
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Indeed. For all we know the new features will eat that battery up for lunch, but it's undeniably a big bump.
Anyone know if there's regular old rumble in there or does the triggers 'emulate' it?
Oh I hope not, quick scoot through tweets and massive homophobe.
+ 560mAh
New Haptic motor(s)
New Microphone.
New Trigger Mechanism. (Am I the only one who thinks it uses magnetic resistance)
Hopefully its enough to actually increase the overall play time on the controllers not just by an hour.
New Haptic motor(s)
New Microphone.
New Trigger Mechanism. (Am I the only one who thinks it uses magnetic resistance)
Hopefully its enough to actually increase the overall play time on the controllers not just by an hour.
A 77% increase would be a lot, but since the DS4's battery life was so horrible, this alone would only bring it up to maybe 14 hours.
I suppose that would be acceptable, but hopefully Sony has also managed to make the controller efficient and addressed whatever made the DS4's battery life so abysmal, beyond the low capacity. The DS5 could plausibly have an actually good battery life.
I suppose that would be acceptable, but hopefully Sony has also managed to make the controller efficient and addressed whatever made the DS4's battery life so abysmal, beyond the low capacity. The DS5 could plausibly have an actually good battery life.
Ah, a true gamer, then.
Edit: Also he seems pro-feminism? That's a twist...
Yeah, that's why I suspect the main issue is that it's just not a very efficient design.
Logitech managed to get more than a 5x battery life improvement with their latest sensors - 32 hours to 180 with the same 750 mAh LiPo battery - and did not compromise performance at all.
Thank you. So many people get this wrong.
Pretty sure they still have classic rumble motors combined with a 3D Touch style Haptic Motor(s) inside as well.(Probably under the touchpad)
The trigger resistance things makes me think they are using something like magnets to increase and decrease the resistance you feel in the trigger. (I dont think they would use even more moving parts to give resistance but who knows)
Its not just rumble like the Impulse Triggers on the Xbox One controller.
Are the face buttons flat like the DS4 or round like the Xbox controllers
I really like the flat buttons and I'd hate for them to change
I really like the flat buttons and I'd hate for them to change
What?
Rack and Pinion with variable resistance?
Where can I find the patent....my googleFu fails me.
Well rechargeable Ni-MH AA batteries are 1.2V, this battery back is 4.2V, so the AA is actually less than half of this batt pack in terms of watt-hours.
I though Haptic motors use less power than standard rumble motors, could be wrong.
The light has been reduced which should help a lot.
If you're doing VCAs like they're doing, there's no real reason to have ERMs there as well. VCAs can do everything ERMs can do better and more efficiently (and do a lot of other things, like single cycle actuation, amplitude modulation, phase synch, etc).
They do, VCAs are considerably more energy efficient.
Haptic motors as found in phones yes use less power.
But are they completely getting rid of handle mounted rumble motors to replace them with these.
I figured they still had Rumble motors and haptic motors for the subtle feedback needed and then the crazy rumble we know and love for when you are firing that massive automatic rifle.
That's the mA draw for the USB port, no the mAh (notice the extra "h") of the battery. You need to open up the controller to see that value.The original DS4 only had a 800mA battery.. it was the later revisions that had the 1000mA.
Of course you can, it depends on how much you play. I usually play between 2 or 3 hours a day. If you play for longer then maybe you need to charge it everyday. I still don't see the issue, just charge it every night.
Standards. What are they?
Needing to constantly charge while playing through Persona 5 was annoying. Obviously not the worst thing ever, but if other controllers and previous Sony controllers didn't have this issue why would I want to put up with it now.
I don't have this issue on the Switch.
That is all.
Putting the light brightness on high vs low for me is a difference of about 3 hours. I know that's anecdotal and I also have the original launch controller which means I'm probably worse off than most. But that's demonstrable 100% of the time for me.
I assume they removed the standard motors as haptic can do strong rumble, I think Nintendo just did not implement them well in the hardware. im sure sony is using a more modern version too which should help.
To charge, my PS4 needs to be on, so the whole charge every night thing doesn't really work. Also, I shouldn't have to charge a controller every night.
But let me guess, buy a charging station. And yet you somehow don't understand the complaints.
JoyCons and phones use LRAs, a related but different technology. They're more compact, but deliver more subtle rumble. VCAs can be much, much larger, with bigger driven mass - stronger rumble.
VCAs are basically loudspeakers, but instead of having a cone it is a driven mass.
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The Wii U controller lasted 80 hours, the Switch one lasts 40. Xbox One is 30 and is considered bad. The DS4 doesn't do anything that those controllers can't do (except lights, the touchpad and stuff like that which is zero benefit to the player). All people are asking is for the controller to be at least close to modern day standards.10-14 hours is a joke no matter how you swing it.
Hell, it was a joke in the Gamecube generation, when the Wavebird could make 2 AA batteries last 100 hours.
I have two Dualshock 4s so I can switch them out and use one and charge the other at the same time- I haven't had time to play games in weeks, they have only been used for Netflix, YouTube etc, but I still need to swap them around every 2-3 days just from that extremely light usage. I also have the automatic turn off after lack of use set to the smallest possible timeframe (15 minutes) but it still drains rapidly.
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Sweet!
Makes sense.
Thats legit....cant wait to see how developers use this tech.
Should be really immersive for pretty much any game.
Racing games - Accelerator is softer than the brake, and brake gets harder and harder as you reach the limits of traction.
Shooters - Different guns different triggers.
Splinter Cell - You know the choke hold has worked because the trigger goes limp as the character passes out.
You can set the USB ports to charge the controller when the PS4 is in sleep mode (yellow light). But yeah, the battery life on the PS4 controller is really bad, especially compared to the Switch Pro controller. Don't have experience with an Xbox controller.
I bought mine 10 months ago and it still says 800mahThe original DS4 only had a 800mA battery.. it was the later revisions that had the 1000mA.
I see, every day is a school day.
Still cautious on this, the DS4's battery life is one of the real negatives of this generation. Hope this fixes it.
Most people will just leave the PS4 on sleep, and that allows you to charge the controllers just fine. You can also set the PS4 to cut out USB power after 6 hours in sleep to avoid overcharging the batteries.
I've linked the actual patent in my previous post now, looking through it (which I didn't do orginally I just rememeber the drawing), there's actually a variety of designs but they all use the same premise so it's likely they've achieved it mechanically.
That splinter cell idea or any stealth game for the matter is neat.
I wonder what the minimum resistance is like compared to the current DS4.
that's interesting, did not realise they were using a different technology.
This all sounds like gravy to me. I get maybe 4-5 days out of a DS4 before I need to charge it so adding another 50% to that would be pretty significant. Also keep in mind that the DualSense doesn't have a light bar. IIRC, that was the biggest drain in battery with the DS4.
wonder how long before the teeth ware down and start slipping.
In Ratchet & Clank, there are two level presses for some guns.
