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New PBF: The Treat

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America: When witches are providing better healthcare than the government.
 
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first PBF i've liked in a while
 
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The single child's insulin bill is causing the family to go bankrupt and so the witch gave them some type of lethal injection so that he could be euthanized and the family saved. Powerful message.
 

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The single child's insulin bill is causing the family to go bankrupt and so the witch gave them some type of lethal injection so that he could be euthanized and the family saved. Powerful message.
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Did you also post this on Twitter? Or did you copy it from Twitter? Or did someone on Twitter copy your joke? :P
 
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Fucking America....there just aren't enough facepalms.

And that witch definitely intentionally looks like Bernie.
 
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Edit: YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M LEAVING THIS HERE. Wrong thread though.


My problem with Rogue One isn't that the characters havepersonality (which honestly I don't get why people are praising a movie for not fleshing out their characters. It's that the characters aren't characters. They're just plot devices that only work to force the movie's pace. I made a post some time ago about Jyn Erso that covers how I feel about her pretty well and is a good example.

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Right, there's nothing wrong with a framing device protag who has a personal journey amidst the overall plot. My problem with Jyn as a character comes from she is given catalyst importance from beginning to end while not being very interesting or very effective.

You got the feeling she went from bitter to hope but I always got the impression from the beginning she was just fatalistic and by the end she still feels fatalistic. She was running from the Empire precisely because she knew fighting them she would die and she wanted to live. Then by the 3rd act we see Jyn is going to fight the Empire but she still knows fighting them she will die. That could be construed as character growth except we never see the impetus for that change. The biggest event she has before her decision to fight back was Galen dying and Cassian yelling at her but we're never shown that Jyn has a moment to think on those and reach any sort of conclusion. She is just at the next scene ready to fight. I wouldn't mind that she wants to fight but somehow this makes her the leader too?

So she's changed to want to fight, despite a likely death following, but despite being relatively unimportantant in the Rebel Alliance, a giant squad of Commandos decide to follow her to their deaths too. Even more perplexing is that Chirrut and Baze, who met her maybe only hours to a day before, follow too on this quest that will likely lead to their deaths. Cassian as well seems to give up leadership to her too despite being shown as an experienced infiltrator and spy. Bodhi I can understand because he's Galen Erso's biggest fan but everyone else has little reason to follow her or better to even have her come along. Of course she's the leader though because she's the main protagonist but then she does very little heroic until the end of the movie.

So we get to the end. The big confrontation we've been waiting for. They've set up who Director Krennic is, the man who kidnapped Galen and ruined Jyn's life. They've set up who Jyn is, the woman who lost her father to the Death Star and Director Krennic twice (though the Rebel Alliance is who actually killed him). She's finally meets him to get vengeance and he says "...who are you?" and she responds "You know!" and he still fails to figure it out. And hoenstly this confrontation is symbolic of all the problems Jyn has in this movie. Who is she and what has she done that Krennic would care about her up until now? Until a little bit before not only was Krennic unaware of who she was but practically unaware of anything she had done in the movie. It's this moment that deflates the movie for me no matter how interesting the battle is, because it signifies how beyond the battle there wasn't anything else to the movie. The clash between characters ultimately ended being and meaning nothing because Krennic at this point had no reason to even care about Jyn. And further, it's not her who defeats him, this man who upended her life and ruined it forever, it's Cassian who even gets to hurt him while Jyn does her data transmission.

Overall Jyn's purpose in the story should have been a participate whose importance was being their for the grand pivotal moment in history and whose little contribution and personal journey adds up to a lot, I've enjoyed those stories in the past. But she's never presented that way with having so much of the story revolve around her. She's alot of the reasons things happen in the plot and drives it, but for the majority of it besides the beginning we see so little about her or her motivations. Because of that she's not really a character to me and whatever little they give her isn't interesting. She becomes less of a character in the story and more a vehicle that plot uses to drive it to the next planet.
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All that said, Director Krennic might be one of my favorite villains and was a genuinely enjoyable character.
 
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Contramann said:
My problem with Rogue One isn't that the characters havepersonality (which honestly I don't get why people are praising a movie for not fleshing out their characters. It's that the characters aren't characters. They're just plot devices that only work to force the movie's pace. I made a post some time ago about Jyn Erso that covers how I feel about her pretty well and is a good example.



All that said, Director Krennic might be one of my favorite villains and was a genuinely enjoyable character.
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Damn this PBF was deeper than I thought.
 
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Contramann said:
My problem with Rogue One isn't that the characters havepersonality (which honestly I don't get why people are praising a movie for not fleshing out their characters. It's that the characters aren't characters. They're just plot devices that only work to force the movie's pace. I made a post some time ago about Jyn Erso that covers how I feel about her pretty well and is a good example.



All that said, Director Krennic might be one of my favorite villains and was a genuinely enjoyable character.
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This might be the best PBF take I've seen yet.
 

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The witch: persecuted throughout history, accusations of bring a witch were a death sentence, the famous Salem witch trials spring to mind, but looking back did they ever cause any real harm? As too has socialism been feminised in the American psyche, the days of woodie Guthrie long gone, but are we turning a corner in to an age if the rehabilitated socialist?
The cartoon posits yes, yes we are. And it is thanks to Bernie Sanders, here depicted as the equally misunderstood witch, his face clear to see, delivering to the common folk the medical care they need, free at the point of service, where one they would have rejected socialism (the witch's magik) more are turning to it and with it, hope.
 
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The witch: persecuted throughout history, accusations of bring a witch were a death sentence, the famous Salem witch trials spring to mind, but looking back did they ever cause any real harm? As too has socialism been feminised in the American psyche, the days of woodie Guthrie long gone, but are we turning a corner in to an age if the rehabilitated socialist?
The cartoon posits yes, yes we are. And it is thanks to Bernie Sanders, here depicted as the equally misunderstood witch, his face clear to see, delivering to the common folk the medical care they need, free at the point of service, where one they would have rejected socialism (the witch's magik) more are turning to it and with it, hope.
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This is it folks. I was going to post this pretty much myself. But you've articulated it as good or better than I would have.

This is the bigger underlying theme here. The misunderstood "pariahs" or "witches" of our age. Inconvenient truth tellers.

Meanwhile the kleptocrats try to project themselves as this sort of victim to obfuscate the messaging of the aforementioned.
 
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