New games coming to Xbox Gamepass console and PC

[Komo]

I don't get why people keep saying this. Phil said something to the effect that it was hard enough accurately emulating Power PC on a fixed set of specs of the Xbox One, yet alone trying to do it on PC with all it's different configurations.

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Yes it is extremely difficult to do so, as it would have required the BC team to emulate or convert current PPC instructions to x86. They had a couple of different version of their Fission emulator, first time they pushed it out they emulated the entire dashboard, and wrapped the games in that, and they also had a functional converter for some games to directly go from PPC to x86. Before you say that's impossible it's very much already been done before and it's on GitHub. https://github.com/rexdex/recompiler

Sure the configurations of PC's matter, and that's why some emulators work better on AMD then Intel, and Nvidia to AMD and vice versa. It's just a lot of hotfixes to be done on many many different PC builds.

It's not something impossible. It just takes a lot of resources to do.

The one difference between MS doing this and someone doing it as a hobby? MS has all the resources to put people on it even for just maintenance, and to boot they also have the documentation for literally everything to do with the console. All of the instructions, and all the hidden things that most devs would not know about the system they have access to that information.

 

[litebrite]

Yes it is extremely difficult to do so, as it would have required the BC team to emulate or convert current PPC instructions to x86. They had a couple of different version of their Fission emulator, first time they pushed it out they emulated the entire dashboard, and wrapped the games in that, and they also had a functional converter for some games to directly go from PPC to x86. Before you say that's impossible it's very much already been done before and it's on GitHub. https://github.com/rexdex/recompiler

Sure the configurations of PC's matter, and that's why some emulators work better on AMD then Intel, and Nvidia to AMD and vice versa. It's just a lot of hotfixes to be done on many many different PC builds.

It's not something impossible. It just takes a lot of resources to do.

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But didn't you just say it would be "trivial" and a "piece of cake" for MS to do?

 

[speedomodel]

Hmmmmm, k. Not the most exciting but I own Rare Replay already.

 

[Lee Morris]

I always thought it was wierd that rare reply wasn't on there

 

[Komo]

But didn't you just say it would be "trivial" and a "piece of cake" for MS to do?

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Yes but they already did all of the work needed. They just would have to compatibility patch for certain systems, and hotfixes for games. I'm saying yes what they did was difficult and they completed it.

 

[Asmar]

Game pass is the best thing to happen this generation after Bloodborne

 

[jerk]

Still no rare replay on pc? Pass.

 

[storaføtter]

Already have half of those games. Hope Age of Empires Definitive Edition is soon. Wanted to play that one for more than a year.

For newbies to Rare Replay, it is an amazing value. Barely scratched it surface but had fun with Battletoads arcade, and replaying Perfect Dark.

 

[Garcia el Gringo]

Resident Evil: Revelations is the only remastered Resident Evil game I don't own on Xbox One, so that's cool! I never played anymore than just the demo on 3DS and have left Revelations 2 untouched because of that.

It's not often that I care that other people experience something meaningful to me, but I'm very happy to see Rare Replay become so accessible through Game Pass. As primarily an N64/360 Rare fan, some of my highlights were already available through Game Pass individually (like Banjo), but I think it's cool how Rare Replay can contextualize the catalog for newcomers. Between Rare Replay on Game Pass and Banjo in Smash back-to-back, hopefully this is a sign of Microsoft looking to foster an appreciation of Rare's history rather than it being an easy first party title to fill their rental service with.

 

[Deleted member 7148]

I guess I'll give Torment a shot, even though it seems to be meh, especially compared to the original which is considered a classic.

 

[Razgriz417]

sweet, wanted to check out rare replay

 

[AndrewDean84]

Ah man, I was hoping I saw Rare Replay on PC. Damn!

 

[Inglorious Man]

It is interesting that Torment: Tides of Numenara is only on PC game pass and not console because on PS Now it is available as one the PS Now games.

 

[hey it's that dog]

Are the insanely slow download speeds still not fixed?

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My speeds are fine for the few games I've successfully downloaded. The rest give an error that of course requires reinstalling Windows or some shit to fix.

 

[LonestarZues]

Here's hoping Torment: Tides of Numenera comes to Xbox Game Pass soon.

 

[z1ggy]

Cool, will try Torment which never got around to play it.

 

[CreepingFear]

I think the speeds increased, at least for me. Downloading Sunset Overdrive was slow, but Prey went much faster. I have 850 Mbps down(Cox Gigablast).

 

[severianb]

Not rare replay on PC makes me sad (I actually gasped, then i saw xbox only and literally said, oh no lol), its the only one that interest me, as I already have torment and RER and I dont give to flying fucks about goat simulator.

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I don't understand these replies. A refurbed Xbox One is dirt cheap.

 

[neatsaux]

does conker hold up at all today? i've kinda been wanting to play it, but i haven't touched it since it was on the n64

 

[Dinobot]

It kind of is. They just added X Enhancement to Perfect Dark, PDZ, Banjo, Banjo Tooie, the Viva Pinatas, Kameo and Nuts and Bolts.

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The Banjo games was all I needed to hear. Thanks.

 

[Stop It]

The Banjo games was all I needed to hear. Thanks.

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They look so clean X enhanced.

If you need an excuse to play them (again) this is it.

 

[Grimminski]

Rare Replay!

Console only!?

Fuck

 

[ThankDougie]

TORMENT.

I was literally just reading about the RPG system that game is based on. Can't wait to give it a shot.

 

[Phoenix Splash]

I'm guessing they won't be adding "bigger" games on the PC side until PC Game Pass is out of beta and at a "regular" price point?

 

[Grand Galvantula]

So 360 BC on PC as a whole is complicated, but would Rare Replay by itself be a more viable port? Because then all they would have to do is make just those games compatible on PC.

 

[Theorry]

I'm guessing they won't be adding "bigger" games on the PC side until PC Game Pass is out of beta and at a "regular" price point?

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You never know with Gamepass lol. They drop games out of nowhere all the time haha.

 

[Massicot]

Hmm. I must have pulled up a different interview 🤷‍♂️ Apologies. I would almost be tempted to double dip even if it was on PC gamepass.

I suppose I could look it up myself...but what is the gameplay of Torment like? Turn based, Action RPG Diablo-like or RTWP....was not a fan of Pillars of Eternity but enjoyed Divinity OS. Might just need to be in the mood for those though

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Torment is turn-based so its a bit more like Divinity, except it doesn't stagger the order between party and enemies, it's based on initiative/speed (or whatever the stat is, been a few years). I remember because there were a couple encounters with a shitton of drones/bugs where the enemies would get a dozen turns in a row due to the sheer number of them.

It's not as good as either pillars or divinity, imo, but still an interesting game just for how weird it is...you do spend a fair amount of time in fleshy environments though which does get old fast.

 

[Beer Monkey]

They look so clean X enhanced.

If you need an excuse to play them (again) this is it.

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The thing about N64 textures is the higher the resolution you view them in, the worse they look.

These games need a more comprehensive remaster stat.

It is nice having a stable framerate, though.

 

[Suedemaker]

Torment is turn-based so its a bit more like Divinity, except it doesn't stagger the order between party and enemies, it's based on initiative/speed (or whatever the stat is, been a few years). I remember because there were a couple encounters with a shitton of drones/bugs where the enemies would get a dozen turns in a row due to the sheer number of them.

It's not as good as either pillars or divinity, imo, but still an interesting game just for how weird it is...you do spend a fair amount of time in fleshy environments though which does get old fast.

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Gotcha. Stat-based turn system I can deal with but I might need to be in the mood for it. I just could not get into PoE with the Real Time with Pause system it has.

 

[rashbeep]

Finally I can play goat simulator

 

[Bwooduhs]

Are Rare replays achievements separate from the 360 versions of games?

 

[Deleted member 49770]

Literally bought an S to play Rare Replay and they add it to Game Pass the day my console arrives. Good shit.

 

[Falchion]

Ooohhh Revelations. Nice!

 

[Stalker]

Man Kameo looks fucking great with that XBX enhancement