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"unexplored territory in terms of visual aesthetics" has me so excited
Broly was already nothing but net visually so seeing where they take things from there is just going to be a treat
Broly was already nothing but net visually so seeing where they take things from there is just going to be a treat
Slightly off topic:
I'm going through the Moro arc right now (just reached the part where Goku and Vegeta seperate to train) and I'm pleasantly surprised.
I really didn't like most of the manga's versions of events compared to the anime and I had heard a lot of criticism around Moro, but honestly? It's the best thing in Super thus far.
There is an actual sense of danger and dread.
New characters are interesting.
Returning characters get some great moments.
It uses lots of old DBZ lore to strong effect.
The fights are excellent.
The character moments are strong, particularly for Vegeta who gets some meaty character development that I never realized I wanted so badly.
Now mind you, I'm only a third of the way through. There's plenty of time for it to get stupid and I'm still dreading the infamous senzu bean moment that Toyataru tweeted about. Ugh. But I'm liking it so far.
thanks for pushing me to read it everyone!
I'm going through the Moro arc right now (just reached the part where Goku and Vegeta seperate to train) and I'm pleasantly surprised.
I really didn't like most of the manga's versions of events compared to the anime and I had heard a lot of criticism around Moro, but honestly? It's the best thing in Super thus far.
There is an actual sense of danger and dread.
New characters are interesting.
Returning characters get some great moments.
It uses lots of old DBZ lore to strong effect.
The fights are excellent.
The character moments are strong, particularly for Vegeta who gets some meaty character development that I never realized I wanted so badly.
Now mind you, I'm only a third of the way through. There's plenty of time for it to get stupid and I'm still dreading the infamous senzu bean moment that Toyataru tweeted about. Ugh. But I'm liking it so far.
thanks for pushing me to read it everyone!
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DB also invented a lot of cliches that shonen takes for granted too
kinda like Seinfeld
Is it possible they could also be making a series? Only recently got back into anime. Does this company usually do one instead of the other?
I'm pretty sure we'll get a new series eventually. It's not a question of if, but when.
I agree but the Toriyama message kinda indicates it will just be the message
Sounds like another previously established character will make their return in this movie.
Some people feel just because Gohan didn't clean sweep the ToP he was wasted. What they did with Gohan in the 2nd half of Super was really good but it's never gonna be enough for people who feel betrayed that Gohan had a back seat(or wasn't even in the car) for a lot of DB post-Cell
It's a much better read all at once. I just think Moro becomes a less interesting villain as the arc goes on. But it's still a fun read.
I know its an almost necessary production crutch, but the CG segments in these DBS movies are always absolute shit. Made all the more shitty because FighterZ exists and does 3D Dragon Ball to perfection. Was hoping we'd be beyond them now since people raved about Broly's art style enough.
If the whole thing is CG, we riot.
Cabba and Tarble fusion: Carble?
If the whole thing is CG, we riot.
Cabba and Tarble fusion: Carble?
Well, last time we got two new DB movies we got a new series after they came out.
If they bring back Cooler, his design should be changed to this
Brings him more in line with his brother.
I bet the unexpected character is Jiren tho
Brings him more in line with his brother.
I bet the unexpected character is Jiren tho
I'm actually all for this. I want the dumbest Raditz redemption arc.
But King Cold was predominantly purple, too!If they bring back Cooler, his design should be changed to this
Brings him more in line with his brother.
That's just Fooler with a mask.If they bring back Cooler, his design should be changed to this
Brings him more in line with his brother.
I bet the unexpected character is Jiren tho
Could be whats posted with a teaser vd/image, who knows? I would think they'd make a little bit more noise
Toyiyama is wierd in that him making up random shit as he goes along is better then him plotting out a begining middle and end in one shot
It's why the arcs in super are real basic
It's why the arcs in super are real basic
I wonder if the new visual aesthetics mean we could finally get space battles in Dragonball, or if that will remain forbidden. They could go crazy with the visuals if they were willing to make the characters get kicked out of planets, fly between planets, blow them up alongside moons and such all in the middle of a fight rather than keeping them grounded to inhabited planets that can't be blown up outside of dramatic moments and space in general being forbidden.
Is there actually any reason we should be expecting Cooler in particular? I had no idea people were clamoring for him. I'm personally not a huge fan, since I don't see what he brings to the table that Frieza doesn't already have covered. But then I was wrong about Broly, so I'm sure they could make him entertaining...just would prefer something new.
Well, if this is a case i hope that first half of new TV will not be just retelling of the movies
Super was essentially preoccupied with introducing and establishing other universes/deities, it took up a lot of the saga's time. I'm ready for Moro and Granolah (and whatever after) to give us more Z-like structures
People are expecting a new version of an old character because that's what the Broly movie did. And Cooler is the 2nd most popular movie villain, so if they were going to pick another one, he seems like the obvious choice. I think Heroes picking Cooler and giving him a golden form of his own shows Toriyama had no interest in using the character though.
Nope. Toriyama says the movie will feature an unexpected character, which could mean anything. People want certain movie villains such as Cooler and Janemba to become canon like Broly. Janemba is much more interesting as a concept, though I've always loved Cooler's design.
I don't exactly want another one-off movie villain again, so I hope this movie takes a more different approach than expected.
I can't remember if he was, but now you have me wondering...
Good points. I'm hopeful that it'll be something a little more interesting. I'm guessing we'll have to wait a while to find out, though (not expecting much more than the Toriyama quote in the official announcement).
SSJ4 + Cooler or bust
OR a slow paced character exploration movie that has no fight scenes and just develops the cast
OR a slow paced character exploration movie that has no fight scenes and just develops the cast
The unexpected character is obvously colonel violet
And her leading the voilet ribbon army
With canon android 21
And her leading the voilet ribbon army
With canon android 21
I'm going against the grain here and predicting Bardock as the unexpected character.
The fact that Goku hasnt met his father yet needs to be addressed imo.
Maybe the movie intros with a new character reviving the entire Saiyan race with the Super Dragon Balls. Could be a nice segway from the Granola anti-Saiyan story arc.
The fact that Goku hasnt met his father yet needs to be addressed imo.
Maybe the movie intros with a new character reviving the entire Saiyan race with the Super Dragon Balls. Could be a nice segway from the Granola anti-Saiyan story arc.
Didn't Resurrect F basically lead to a whole new series? So maybe it be like that. New DBS film to coincide with the launch of another TV series / 2nd season of DBS.