New Battlefield to be revealed on June 9, 7AM PDT/ 4PM CEST

bitcloudrzr · Jun 9, 2021

Theorry said:
Do hope the BFV gunplay moves over tho. That was good part of BFV

The gun mechanics in V though were not great, every gun being a laser is upsetting.

Theorry said:
Ooh hard disagree. BF1 for me was way to "casual" to easy really. Perfect example was the LMG's getting more accurate the longer you fire.

BF1 range gating was effective for the generally open maps and LMGs had that mechanic unique to the guns like 2142. The spread was used to dissuade spamming full auto fire, which BFV failed to do.

PS9 · Jun 9, 2021

Edit: nvm it's the OP.

Patitoloco · Jun 9, 2021

PS9 said:
How long until the reveal?

Jun 9, 2021 at 10:00 AM

Gero · Jun 9, 2021

BFV had the best movement and gunplay in the franchise. Really hope those are carrying over to the next one

FIREKNIGHT2029 · Jun 9, 2021

BloodHound said:
COD is not even close to the shenanigans of BF4. People forget how wild these games used to be due to all the vehicle changes in recent BFs.

This is why BF is untouchable.

I'm really hoping BF6 brings us moments like this. Changes to the vehicles and weapons in BF1 and BFV basically killed these moments and I'm hoping the return to the modern setting brings them back again.

nikasun :D · Jun 9, 2021

Are there any Twitch or Youtube links?

Edit: Thanks Lampa

Dust · Jun 9, 2021

Is this just "reveal" or actual gameplay?

Lampa · Jun 9, 2021

Patitoloco said:
Jun 9, 2021 at 10:00 AM

I think the actual reveal is +1 hour. They have two streams up, one is countdown to reveal, and the other is the premiere.

Countdown stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wxNFnNbA
Reveal Premiere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E

Fiddle · Jun 9, 2021

Lampa said:
I think the actual reveal is +1 hour. They have two streams up, one is countdown to reveal, and the other is the premiere.

Countdown stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wxNFnNbA
Reveal Premiere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E

are you kidding me lmao

SoulsHunt · Jun 9, 2021

Can't wait, so much hype

Lampa · Jun 9, 2021

Fiddle said:
are you kidding me lmao

Could have been worse, at least they tell us exactly when it's dropping, unlike EA Play Live, where they endlessly tease the interesting stuff so you stick around till the end.

BloodHound · Jun 9, 2021

War95 said:
Yeah, it was indeed superior to BF4 but inferior to BF1 imo

BF1 gunplay was ass lol.
Lets not take anything from that game tbh.

Lampa · Jun 9, 2021

BloodHound said:
BF1 gunplay was ass lol.
Lets not take anything from that game tbh.

I want Operations and Frontlines gamemodes from BF1 in the next BF

dglavimans · Jun 9, 2021

Lampa said:
I think the actual reveal is +1 hour. They have two streams up, one is countdown to reveal, and the other is the premiere.

Countdown stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wxNFnNbA
Reveal Premiere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E

Ow no not this again :')

Tovarisc · Jun 9, 2021

Theorry said:
Do hope the BFV gunplay moves over tho. That was good part of BFV

BFV gunplay is fine if you ignore all full automatics being laser rifles. DICE is yet to figure out how to make recoil without leaning on juiced up random deviation that makes gunplay feel RNG based.

bitcloudrzr said:
BF1 range gating was effective for the generally open maps and LMGs had that mechanic unique to the guns like 2142. The spread was used to dissuade spamming full auto fire, which BFV failed to do.

BF1 has its share of fully automatic lasers. Accurate full auto spray wasn't rare sight and not that hard to do.

In general it was funny how WW1 based game had fully automatics as much as WW2.

Gero · Jun 9, 2021

Also i hope the operation atmosphere will be back at BF1 levels. They kinda ruined it in BFV

icecold1983 · Jun 9, 2021

Tovarisc said:
BFV gunplay is fine if you ignore all full automatics being laser rifles. DICE is yet to figure out how to make recoil without leaning on juiced up random deviation that makes gunplay feel RNG based.

BF1 has its share of fully automatic lasers. Accurate full auto spray wasn't rare sight and not that hard to do.

In general it was funny how WW1 based game had fully automatics as much as WW2.

Gunplay may be good in theory, but in practice, its a broken mess. Just like every single gameplay system in BFV.

bitcloudrzr · Jun 9, 2021

Tovarisc said:
BFV gunplay is fine if you ignore all full automatics being laser rifles. DICE is yet to figure out how to make recoil without leaning on juiced up random deviation that makes gunplay feel RNG based.

BF1 has its share of fully automatic lasers. Accurate full auto spray wasn't rare sight and not that hard to do.

In general it was funny how WW1 based game had fully automatics as much as WW2.

You were really penalized with how they handled spread especially at mid range and beyond. Close range for sure full auto is viable and LMGs have reverse spread so they can suppress better. BFV took the same mechanics and implemented them poorly even though the feel is better. Specifically the spread into recoil system just turned every gun into a laser at range and no matter how fast they fired.

grmlin · Jun 9, 2021

I was so bad at BF4 on my PS4 and still played it a ton. It was such a good game. Tried the later titles, too, but none of it grabbed me.

HonestAbe · Jun 9, 2021

Gero said:
BFV had the best movement and gunplay in the franchise. Really hope those are carrying over to the next one

oh god no. If they carry over the m1 spam click fest of BFV, I'm out. It had no skill. You could just fire as fast as you want with little to no penalty. It was boring easy mode.

I much prefer BF1 TTK 2.0. Higher TTK but penalizes not knowing when your gun's max fire for when you'll be hit with harder spread. So a spam clicker will be penalized with a lower TTK because they are missing shots due to SIPS and someone properly pacing shots not increasing spread per shot will have a higher effective TTK.

tootsi666 · Jun 9, 2021

HonestAbe said:
oh god no. If they carry over the m1 spam click fest of BFV, I'm out. It had no skill. You could just fire as fast as you want with little to no penalty. It was boring easy mode.

I much prefer BF1 TTK 2.0. Higher TTK but penalizes not knowing when your gun's max fire for when you'll be hit with harder spread. So a spam clicker will be penalized with a lower TTK because they are missing shots due to SIPS and someone properly pacing shots not increasing spread per shot will have a higher effective TTK.

It was more effective to just spam mindlessly in BF1 and hope for the best in most engagements. Shooting "correctly" would get you killed if the opponent had better luck. BFV gunplay actually rewarded headshotting and aim, though they could probably triple the recoil in most guns

Theorry · Jun 9, 2021

tootsi666 said:
It was more effective to just spam mindlessly in BF1 and hope for the best in most engagements. Shooting "correctly" would get you killed if the opponent had better luck. BFV gunplay actually rewarded headshotting and aim, though they could probably triple the recoil in most guns

Jup.

Tovarisc · Jun 9, 2021

tootsi666 said:
It was more effective to just spam mindlessly in BF1 and hope for the best in most engagements. Shooting "correctly" would get you killed if the opponent had better luck. BFV gunplay actually rewarded headshotting and aim, though they could probably triple the recoil in most guns

If you triple zero recoil it's still zero.

On paper BFV gunplay is great. Bullet goes where barrel points and no random deviation. DICE just forgot to add any recoil to most of the games full automatic weapons so they are zero recoil lasers.

bitcloudrzr · Jun 9, 2021

tootsi666 said:
It was more effective to just spam mindlessly in BF1 and hope for the best in most engagements. Shooting "correctly" would get you killed if the opponent had better luck. BFV gunplay actually rewarded headshotting and aim, though they could probably triple the recoil in most guns

BFV rewards full auto at any range.

Tovarisc said:
If you triple zero recoil it's still zero.

On paper BFV gunplay is great. Bullet goes where barrel points and no random deviation. DICE just forgot to add any recoil to most of the games full automatic weapons so they are zero recoil lasers.

Spread is not even removed, just added to recoil making recoil random. They also forgot to add spread for certain gun classes making it easier to spam semi auto rifles.

oriic · Jun 9, 2021

Lampa said:
I think the actual reveal is +1 hour. They have two streams up, one is countdown to reveal, and the other is the premiere.

Countdown stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wxNFnNbA
Reveal Premiere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E

Countdown...again...I hate countdown...

kostacurtas · Jun 9, 2021

Lampa said:
I think the actual reveal is +1 hour. They have two streams up, one is countdown to reveal, and the other is the premiere.

Countdown stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wxNFnNbA
Reveal Premiere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E

Yep.

Description on the countdown stream:

Stick around at the end of the livestream and you'll be automatically redirected to the trailer premiere.

Description on the reveal trailer:

Before the trailer premiere, get a hint of what's to come in our countdown to reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wx...

icecold1983 · Jun 9, 2021

In BFV bullets do NOT go where ADS points.

Mr Eric · Jun 9, 2021

Tovarisc said:
If you triple zero recoil it's still zero.

On paper BFV gunplay is great. Bullet goes where barrel points and no random deviation. DICE just forgot to add any recoil to most of the games full automatic weapons so they are zero recoil lasers.

i much prefer the predictable recoil in BFV (while at the same time agreeing that semi-auto didn't have enough even if you spamshot like crazy) than the completely random spread in BF1 which i find completely unfun. IMO, outside of Operations and the beautiful graphical package, there's nothing to save from BF1. I can't even give the name of one map that I really enjoyed to the point that i could play it endlessly.

bitcloudrzr · Jun 9, 2021

Mr Eric said:
i much prefer the predictable recoil in BFV (while at the same time agreeing that semi-auto didn't have enough even if you spamshot like crazy) than the completely random spread in BF1 which i find completely unfun. IMO, outside of Operations and the beautiful graphical package, there's nothing to save from BF1. I can't even give the name of one map that I really enjoyed to the point that i could play it endlessly.

The problem is BFV does not remove spread, the value just gets added into recoil resulting in random recoil.

Mister chief · Jun 9, 2021

4 hours to go

EatChildren · Jun 9, 2021

I completely forgot this reveal is in, what, three hours and fifteen minutes?

I'm expecting a basic reveal trailer, similar content showcase to previous trailers, where people who want to pick it apart will see hints to the types of guns, vehicles, and features the game will have. DICE is usually pretty good at condensing a lot of stuff in the trailer that have implications on the main game, even while outrageously scripted and cinematically presented.

And then a follow up at E3 with all the bits and pieces and more elaborate details.

Azai · Jun 9, 2021

EatChildren said:
I completely forgot this reveal is in, what, three hours and fifteen minutes?

I'm expecting a basic reveal trailer, similar content showcase to previous trailers, where people who want to pick it apart will see hints to the types of guns, vehicles, and features the game will have. DICE is usually pretty good at condensing a lot of stuff in the trailer that have implications on the main game, even while outrageously scripted and cinematically presented.

And then a follow up at E3 with all the bits and pieces and more elaborate details.

There seems to be an 1 hour show before the trailer though. we have two timers for 2 different streams. one at 4pm CET and one at 5pm cet. the 5pm one being the trailer premiere.

Mr Eric · Jun 9, 2021

bitcloudrzr said:
The problem is BFV does not remove spread, the value just gets added into recoil resulting in random recoil.

it doesn't remove spread but it's less a lottery (kicks in later, mostly impacting when hip firing) than whatever BF1 was doing.

EatChildren · Jun 9, 2021

Azai said:
There seems to be an 1 hour show before the trailer though. we have two timers for 2 different streams. one at 4pm CET and one at 5pm cet. the 5pm one being the trailer premiere.

Ooooh thank you. I didn't know that. Hmm, I wonder what? Surely they wouldn't do a gameplay reveal before the trailer though. If that's the order it sounds like one of those pre-shows, that in this case will be HISTORY OF BATTLEFIELD and MARKETING WANK or whatever before the actual trailer drops.

Patitoloco · Jun 9, 2021

EatChildren said:
Ooooh thank you. I didn't know that. Hmm, I wonder what? Surely they wouldn't do a gameplay reveal before the trailer though. If that's the order it sounds like one of those pre-shows, that in this case will be HISTORY OF BATTLEFIELD and MARKETING WANK or whatever before the actual trailer drops.

It will most likely be the classic EA super produced making-of they have been doing for years.

Mr Eric · Jun 9, 2021

EatChildren said:
I completely forgot this reveal is in, what, three hours and fifteen minutes?

I'm expecting a basic reveal trailer, similar content showcase to previous trailers, where people who want to pick it apart will see hints to the types of guns, vehicles, and features the game will have. DICE is usually pretty good at condensing a lot of stuff in the trailer that have implications on the main game, even while outrageously scripted and cinematically presented.

And then a follow up at E3 with all the bits and pieces and more elaborate details.

This is also what I expect, with a bit of gameplay during the xbox show and then full multiplayer reveal during EA Play.

bitcloudrzr · Jun 9, 2021

Mr Eric said:
it doesn't remove spread but it's less a lottery (kicks in later, mostly impacting when hip firing) than whatever BF1 was doing.

Spread is applied immediately after the first shot in ads or hip fire. Most of the same mechanics are in BF1 and BFV in regards to spread as well. https://sym.gg/?game=bfv&page=weapon-mechanics

Theorry · Jun 9, 2021

I had my fun with BF1. Operations from BF1 was amazing. Hope they bring it back and not like BFV.
But overall the game was really "casual" with its gunplay, Behemoth stuff, planes etc It was in the end to easy also. I remember me and my friends one went like on a 50+ win streak in Operations. Attacking and defending. But i had my fun with it for the time it lasted.

Patitoloco · Jun 9, 2021

I definitely preferred BF1 to V (which is the only Battlefield I just haven't liked, nothing about it felt good to me).

But good Battlefield is fantastic multiplayer, so anything that is a step above these past few games is great.

Noble · Jun 9, 2021

Was I the only time who found both BF1 and V too simplistic and like very homogeneous? Like I couldn't really differentiate lots of weapons, it all felt too similar which made the games a bit boring to me.

I think it probably had to do with the WW setting. Hopefully this one will have more gunplay variety with the modern day setting.

degauss · Jun 9, 2021

Patitoloco said:
I definitely preferred BF1 to V (which is the only Battlefield I just haven't liked, nothing about it felt good to me).

100% agreed, BF1 had some really tight cinematic maps/moments gameplay.

BF5… I HATED IT. All my memories from this game was getting shot dead in 1 or 2 bullets any time I tried to move somewhere. I tried for hours and I didn't have one minute of fun.

Nephilim · Jun 9, 2021

Hyped for this reveal.
Hopefully Dice learned from the BFV fiasko and deliver this time, although i really like BFV and still play it.

Azai · Jun 9, 2021

Noble said:
Was I the only time who found both BF1 and V too simplistic and like very homogeneous? Like I couldn't really differentiate lots of weapons, it all felt too similar which made the games a bit boring to me.

I think it probably had to do with the WW setting. Hopefully this one will have more gunplay variety with the modern day setting.

Yes, also the lack of weapon customization attributed to it.

Also since BF1 guns were way too accurate from the hip. Especially SMGS were able to fire really accurate from the hip without ADSing even at medium range. ADSing with some weapons was a rather a bad idea because it didnt have any benefits

Theorry · Jun 9, 2021

What i like about the leaked screens. The soldier pics next to the names in the squad. I feel they will do the customization now right.
And dont think we get clear "factions". And more kinda make the soldier you want

niaobx · Jun 9, 2021

Noble said:
Was I the only time who found both BF1 and V too simplistic and like very homogeneous? Like I couldn't really differentiate lots of weapons, it all felt too similar which made the games a bit boring to me.

I think it probably had to do with the WW setting. Hopefully this one will have more gunplay variety with the modern day setting.

They weren't only simplistic, they were honestly absolutely awful in every regard besides graphics. Every map was pure chaos, vehicle balance was ass, gunplay was ass, visibility was low as hell. I realy hope for the new entry to be BF 3/4 2.0, at this point I don't trust Dice with anything more

Deleted member 37928 · Jun 9, 2021

Have they said anything about the nature of the event? Will it be a longer reveal event like BFV where the designers talk about everything that's new, or will it just be a trailer and that's it?

Theorry · Jun 9, 2021

Tekku said:
Have they said anything about the nature of the event? Will it be a longer reveal event like BFV where the designers talk about everything that's new, or will it just be a trailer and that's it?

Not specific. But seems trailer and offcourse we get some sort of blog post next to it with more info.

Terbinator · Jun 9, 2021

Lampa said:
I think the actual reveal is +1 hour. They have two streams up, one is countdown to reveal, and the other is the premiere.

Countdown stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3wxNFnNbA
Reveal Premiere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E

Dreadful.

poklane · Jun 9, 2021

Key art and screenshots leaked via Origin. I'll spoiler tag it so people who don't wanna see it don't have to.

Lampa · Jun 9, 2021

poklane said:
Key art and screenshots leaked via Origin. I'll spoiler tag it so people who don't wanna see it don't have to.

Oh my. Oh yes.

New Battlefield to be revealed on June 9, 7AM PDT/ 4PM CEST

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