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Negative ad target Sanders in Iowa "more radical than Obama on healthcare" "gives gov health insurance to everyone" "GND even bigger than New Deal"

Do you think this ad is meant to help or hurt Bernie Sanders?

  • Hurt

    Votes: 148 38.1%

  • Help

    Votes: 240 61.9%
  • Total voters
    388
Tracygill

Tracygill

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Nov 2, 2017
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Nick Corasaniti ✔
@NYTnickc

Interesting: the Club for Growth goes up with a negative ad in Iowa directly attacking @BernieSanders, both on health care and his age.


Iowa ad transcript said:
Sanders wants to be our 46th president but he's nothing like the rest.

More radical than Obama on healthcare.

[LIBERAL
HEALTHCARE
POLICIES]

Bernie's plan gives government health insurance to everyone.

[BERNIE'S PLAN:
MEDICARE FOR ALL]

His socialist Green New Deal even bigger than the New Deal transforming the economy to meet extreme environmental standards

(BERNIE'S GREEN NEW DEAL:
$16.3 TRILLION FOR
CLIMATE CHANGE)

and at 79 he'd be our oldest president ever. Even his age is extreme.

[79
YEARS
OLD AT
INAUGURATION]

Too old.
Too liberal.

[TOO OLD.
TOO LIBERAL.]
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Some people think this ad is meant to help Sanders.


Claire McCaskill ✔
@clairecmc

I speak with authority ... this ad is meant to help Bernie. Not hurt him. https://twitter.com/jmartnyt/status/1221801819313143813 …

[Replies to]

Jonathan Martin ✔
@jmartNYT

The @clairecmc-style jujitsu play is clear enough. But the @club4growth may not know how much they're going to please @BernieSanders by linking him to @FDRLibrary https://twitter.com/nytnickc/status/1221797847743582219?s=21 …

Do you think this ad is meant to be negative?

Edit: Added poll and the Claire McCaskill tweet a few minutes after creating the thread so the first replies did not see the Claire McCaskill tweet.
 
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PMS341

PMS341

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Oct 29, 2017
6,634
Imagine the horror of everyone having healthcare. Even the poors? C'mon now, be realistic.
 
WestEgg

WestEgg

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Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,050
So the New Deal, the thing that helped get America out of the Great Depression, in actual fighting shape for WWII, and an economic powerhouse thereafter, is now a bad thing?
 
DarthWalden

DarthWalden

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,030
This reminds me of the time that I somehow got an ad for Marco Rubio when he was running for president and everything about his platform was bat shit crazy in my eyes that without knowing who it was I thought it may have been a joke...

Pro-gun, anti-environment, anti health-care.
 
kess

kess

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,020
The New Deal is probably the last time someone invested in small town Iowa infrastructure
 
CelestialAtom

CelestialAtom

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Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,099
If THAT is a negative ad, then somebody is about to be fired. These fuckers are absolutely desperate to find some asinine way to smear Bernie.
 
Finale Fireworker

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Oct 25, 2017
14,717
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RolandGunner said:
Its not an attack add. Its a conservative group trying to support Sanders because they think he'll lose to Trump. And given the responses in this thread its working as intended.
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Oh no! They got me!

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cDNA

cDNA

Member
Oct 25, 2017
917
Remember Trump is so scared of Sanders that he violated multiple laws and froze aid to Ukraine to derail his campaign.
Never mind, that was Joe Biden, so it don't counts.
 
Damaniel

Damaniel

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,546
Portland, OR
Meant to hurt, may even hurt (at least the the 'radical policy' part), but if I saw that in an ad, I'd be shouting 'hell yeah!' all the way.
 
Darryl M R

Darryl M R

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Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,728
As someone with Warren as his number one choice, where can she find these types of enemies? Lol Bernie is about to sweep if these are his negative ads.
 
Avitus

Avitus

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Oct 25, 2017
12,946
Establishment is so far up its own ass they don't understand this actually sounds great
 
captainmal01

captainmal01

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,340
RolandGunner said:
Its not an attack add. Its a conservative group trying to support Sanders because they think he'll lose to Trump. And given the responses in this thread its working as intended.
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The "too old, too liberal" and "extreme environmental standards" line doesn't really show that they're supporting him, as well as the tone of the narrator. It's an attack ad. With your second point, do you mean this is meant to persuade Biden/Warren voters to vote Sanders? I doubt this ad causes that much of a swing in any direction, just reinforcing beliefs.
 

jviggy43

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
18,184
Glad theyre getting this news out there. Hope it drives people to show up for bernie next week.
 
neon/drifter

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Apr 3, 2018
4,076
It depends on your perspective as to whether or not this makes him look bad.

Are you a selfish person who hates the idea of the greater wealth being fairly distributed for the health of all?

Or

Do you like his ideas?
 
Fisty

Fisty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,366
Its knowingly positive, no one has ever tried to compare someone to FDR as a negative
 
Thrill_house

Thrill_house

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,692
Uhhhhhhhhh these all sound great to me? I don't think this is going to have the negative effect the people that made these adds are hoping for.
 
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