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Non-college white dudes are overwhelmingly okay with racist trash in the WH as long as they're fucking the people they don't like, because they're also shitty people.
#notalluneducatedwhitemen
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NBC/WSJ poll, 40% will definitely/probably vote for Trump and 52% definitely/probably for a Dem. 67% of non college educated white men pick Trump
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Is this better:
Non-college white dudes are overwhelmingly okay with racist trash in the WH as long as they're fucking the people they don't like, because they're also shitty people.
#notalluneducatedwhitemen
Ehhj if he's losing every white demo except non college men no EC set up is going to save him.
We need to put this in context. Seems like hes lost votes all around.
While this bodes well for democrats, they need to elect someone who is perfect for white people. looks to me that white men and women need to be coddled and that means ignoring minorities. It seems these people get triggered whenever dems focus on BLM, LGBT rights, Asylum seekers and of course giving a path to citizenship for hispanic immigrants. i would be fine if they dont waste time courting me and other minorities. just go and get the big fish. forget everyone else. i mean what are we going to do? Vote republican or sit home and watch these assholes elect another white supremacist racist asshole? pretty sure some of us did that last election and i doubt we will make the same mistake again.
I just find the hypocricy really odd. If i said "black men were never worth the effort" i would be perma banned
Cant tell if you're trolling🤔
Everyone ain't the same no, but everyone benefits from white supremacy and the overwhelming majority won't speak out against it or their racist families. If you're truly for equality sure, I fuck with you. But there's a lot of fake "allies".
Also, 50 years ago ain't that long ago as we see.
I mean if these trends continue
Right...while these Trump support numbers are obviously way too high they point directly at him having lost a significant chunk of the support he had in the last election when he only won by a razor thin margin.
For me the surprise was how many college educated men vote for Trump. Maybe they are the truly lost cause?
I have never and barring some massive unforeseen shift in the political landscape will never vote Republican.
I'd imagine many non-college educated white males come from poorer areas of the country. At least in the south, most of these areas are staunchly conservative/republican for a variety of reasons. I don't think it's about getting exposed to different perspectives at college itself, but being able to move away from these areas period. If you get a degree and want a good job you're probably going to have to move to a city somewhere. The alternative is usually to stay stuck that bubble forever. It's brain drain, essentially.
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Dems need to be pushing accessibility to education hard. No wonder Trump and the GOP want to keep people out of college, its a haemorrhage of their base.
America is segregated as fuck. College exposes folks to different ideas and people. If you stay in your nearly all-white hometown bubble, whether it's a conservative or liberal white bubble, you're going to have messed up feelings and views about the other races, especially Black people.
On two occasions I've seen people post they've never met a Black person until they went to college, so far the first 17 years what do you think they are absorbing about Black people if all they had were their nearly all-white community and the racist white owned media telling them what Black people are?
I have a white bubbled friend that is now married to a Muslim. She was both attracted to her wife when they met but concerned and terrified when she learned she was Muslim. Being so sheltered is so bizarre to me but that's what a lot of America is. Segregation continues to fuck the populace over.
What muddies the water is not controlling for it in polling, it's the major reason polling was so off systemically in 2016.
Tbh if Warren is at the top of the ticket I very much doubt college white men would vote for her.
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Nah bro you didnt get a usless degree and crippling debt. Youre a stupid racist according to most of the post here.
I mean fucking Goldwater got just about 40% of the vote. So did Hoover in 32.
Roy Moore lost in Alabama of all places because White women were ever so slightly more appalled by his predatory grossness (he only won 52% of college-educated white women), so there is potential it could improve the margins where Dems might otherwise falter.
Why does crap like this get posted in these threads? Who the fuck lies about who they'll vote for in a confidential poll?
They don't but people still believe in the myth of the "shy Trump voter"
I often thought about about what it would be able to opt out of knowing about the culture or society. Like is there anywhere in america a PoC can go without having to interact with a white person?
To target during an election? If I said black men weren't worth the effort from a republican perspective, yeah, it's not wrong. They're not winning them (obviously). And Dems aren't winning the non-col white vote no matter what.
So if I understand this correctly... 2 out of 5 people are voting Trump. And roughly 1 out of 2 white people are going to vote Trump.
If this pans out it would be an electoral blowout.
I'd already settle for a +5% win.
She's big on tuition loan forgiveness so they could go for that.
Might even be worse than that for Trump depending on how independents/moderates split.
Biggest regret of my life people with degrees are doing much, much better than I am. I was just never in the financial shape to go to college.
Nothing worse than having no future opportunities. I've went as far as I'm going to go.
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This isn't just a US thing either- https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0176268018301320
It's a combination of socialization issues (people who go to college will be exposed to more people who aren't like themselves) and issues with people having an inability to see through Fox News style bullshit. Going to college doesn't make you magically able to do that (Trump, Carter Page, those stats not being inverses of the non-college, etc. are perfect examples) but the selection of who gets into college isn't random, and the filters there make it more likely that a college grad has that ability to ignore Fox's bullshit.
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No, this is not because they're poor. Fuck that "economic anxiety" bullshit.
It's a combination of socialization issues (people who go to college will be exposed to more people who aren't like themselves) and issues with people having an inability to see through Fox News style bullshit. Going to college doesn't make you magically able to do that (Trump, Carter Page, those stats not being inverses of the non-college, etc. are perfect examples) but the selection of who gets into college isn't random, and the filters there make it more likely that a college grad has that ability to ignore Fox's bullshit.
Yeah, the Shy Trump voter was created by pollsters not controlling for education.
white people who think they should performatively self-flagellate so others know they're one of the good ones
the general trend on that graph excelsiorlef posted on page 1 shows white college graduates favouring republicans in fewer numbers as time passes, if this poll is anything to go by then it's not good for Trump. Whether you should put much faith in polls after the 2016 debacle though is another thing.
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The blatant racism on this site is disgusting. You think you beat fascism and racism by being as racist as him? America deserves Trump.
Nobody has mentioned yet but older people are less likely to have a college degree compared to younger people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States
Also geographically, people are more educated in blue states and major cities:
So it would stand to reason that if you are old, white, uneducated, and rural, you're going to be a Trump supporter to the surprise of no one.
I'd love to see the statistics in the OP broken down by age group because I'd wager that despite whatever latest alt-right internet movement, that young and uneducated whites are going to break more left than people that are 65+.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States
Also geographically, people are more educated in blue states and major cities:
So it would stand to reason that if you are old, white, uneducated, and rural, you're going to be a Trump supporter to the surprise of no one.
I'd love to see the statistics in the OP broken down by age group because I'd wager that despite whatever latest alt-right internet movement, that young and uneducated whites are going to break more left than people that are 65+.
Getting a college degree is very much a good thing for your career prospects and crippling debt isn't a requirement to do so.
do we have numbers for dubya and bush 41 during their 3rd years? H.W. had a murky Gulf War Legacy, hardliners coming at him from the right and Perot siphoning off some of his base, and lost. Dubya had a solidified base and a still relatively warm glow post 9/11 and won. I just wonder how they polled in these same demographic bins.
Over 50% of white people in this country is going to vote for a hardline racist. And you're saying this site is being racist?
Do you think Dems will figure out that popular vote percentages don't really matter this year finally?
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me either.
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me either.