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etrain911

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,814
That's not true. There's always the danger of another Trump around the corner, regardless of what happens to the one we have. Think about it, has any conviction in history have ever truly deterred other bad actors from committing similar crimes? You cannot eradicate corruption. The only way forward is to continue to educate the voter base.

Hey, like it or not, Trump appeals to millions of people. It's better to make him old news than continue to focus the country's attention on him.

This logic really worked out for Bush and the financial execs, making them old news really solved all our problems and did not cause any new ones at all whatsoever.
 

JaseC64

Enlightened
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,008
Strong Island NY
This is how the goons will stick around then once voting suppression helps Rs back, they'll be back to grifting and destroying the country.

Omg Biden. Please don't do this. There needs to be people like Barr investigated. Smfh.
 
OP
OP

Deleted member 31923

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Nov 8, 2017
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This is the long and short of it, and should be added to the OP.

Biden is obviously distancing himself from this issue so as not to appear as though he's directly telling the DoJ what to do.

I think we can start getting upset at him if the DoJ turns around then and issues memos to state AGs advising them not to pursue criminal investigations or charges against Trump or his associates.

Frankly this is a no-win scenario for Biden, personally. If it's his own AG who goes after Trump, he'll be blamed for going after his political opponents. If the states go after him, he'll also be blamed for going after his political opponents. If he demands that nothing is done, he's basically signalling to the country and the world that when someone is elected President they are forever above the law and any crimes they may have committed prior or during their presidency are null and void, which is an extremely dangerous precedent to set, even beyond the potential of future presidents going after their predecessors.

I added this tweet to the OP.
 

Deleted member 2834

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Oct 25, 2017
7,620
And "we dont read articles" should be ResetEra's lol
Nobody does. The title is all anybody will ever read on the internet. You might as well post an article with a catchy political title (like "Biden's win grinds progressive movement to a halt!") and a cooking recipe for a text, and the ruse would go undiscovered for days. Instead people will fight over the title and what they believe that text will say. Worthless.
 
Oct 27, 2017
45,240
Seattle
So he won't interfere with the DOJ and its work and States will be allowed to do their thing. Basically its not going to be his primary focus and won't be on his agenda. Seems like a nothing burger that will get a rise out of some people.
 

Yerffej

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,559
There will be plenty of DOJ officials who want to pursue these criminal acts. It's only smart Biden distances himself. You um, you don't want our equivalent of Barr doing shit for the president.
 

Parthenios

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
13,613
The Senate isn't going to confirm an AG that doesn't essentially pinky swear not to prosecute Trump or his goonies anyway.
 

The Climaxan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,975
NC-USA
Biden is smart to rise above it and let the DOJ do the dirty work. We're so used to Trump directly attacking his enemies that we've become numb to it and accepted it as the norm. A President should be above the fray with a singular focus on improving the country. Leave the law to those who enforce it.

Now, if Biden pardons Trump or stops a DOJ investigation I will be pissed for the exact same reason.
 

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,071
Biden can sit and relax, that's okay. Let Kamala do all the legal work, she has some expertise in that field from what I hear.
 

Culex

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,844
have a third party set up to determine any crimes. It's not that hard. Biden doesn't have to directly be a part of it, but it CAN go on!
 

heathen earth

Member
Mar 21, 2020
2,007
Isn't this what Biden has been signaling all along? Honestly not sure what the surprise is here.

Frankly, I'd be stunned if Trump ever even faces any charges, much less actually gets locked up. A former US president is just not going to do any time. The rich and powerful do not operate based on the same laws as everyone else.
 

The Llama

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,026
Not sure why anyone thinks Biden would pardon Trump lol. The chances of that happening are virtually 0.
 

Fisty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,227
He can't get involved, this is exactly the way he has to position himself. Let the DOJ do its job, but under an AG that will be a bulldog
 

Rokal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
506
Frankly this is a no-win scenario for Biden, personally. If it's his own AG who goes after Trump, he'll be blamed for going after his political opponents. If the states go after him, he'll also be blamed for going after his political opponents. If he demands that nothing is done, he's basically signalling to the country and the world that when someone is elected President they are forever above the law and any crimes they may have committed prior or during their presidency are null and void, which is an extremely dangerous precedent to set, even beyond the potential of future presidents going after their predecessors.

Trump, right-wing media, and misinformation are going to keep Trump's base energized and outraged regardless of what happens to Trump. I'd at least rather see his crimes fully exposed in a court so that he isn't free to continue spouting falsehoods and so that the legal system is on record of saying that the crimes were real and he was guilty of them.

Letting him go with no consequences is naive as hell. Biden will be blamed for using the "deep state" to attack Trump regardless of whether a single lawsuit is brought against him. This country needs to return to a point where actions have consequences.
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,254
New York City
Joe is replacing Barr tho correct? Joe shouldn't interfere with any DOJ business or pressure anyone outside of his scope. He isn't Trump and shouldn't behave like him. But someone (NYAG) needs to come after Trump and hard after he's out.
 

Trey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,013
This is how the goons will stick around then once voting suppression helps Rs back, they'll be back to grifting and destroying the country.

Omg Biden. Please don't do this. There needs to be people like Barr investigated. Smfh.

That is, once again, the Senate's job. The most Biden could do is try to bully pulpit what is likely a Republican Senate, which is honestly a waste of everyone's time.
 

Marvie

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,712
He's not saying "no we can't do it" he's saying "I'm staying out of it, that's the AG's job"

It's the correct position. To do otherwise will only galvanize opposition to him and take precious air away from the real issues
Exactly. Biden stepping back and letting others go after him is the right call.
 

MrRob

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,671
I feel like some in this thread have a fundamental misunderstanding with how the DOJ is SUPPOSED to function. I guess in an era of Trump it's easy to forget that POTUS is not supposed to steer what investigations the DOJ does or does not do.

What Biden is saying here is boilerplate. A sitting president should not and has not, before Trump, went after his political rivals. However, if the DOJ sees fit then that's on them.
 

thefit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,243
He's acting accordingly, DOJ is supposed to be independent and if they do their job no one should be worried that they won't prosecute crimes. The president should always be seen as focused on the immediate needs of the nation, this other stuff gets done by the career professionals in the background.
 

Foltzie

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
6,794
Shouldn't Biden be telling his Justice Department to go after white nationalists? I don't think they will just do that on their own.
This is an important point, previous DOJ's have backed off of white nationalists investigations because they were afraid of political blowback. Biden will have to explicitly support these investigations in order to get them moving for anything but the most egregious conspiracies.
 

Snake Eater

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,385
Democrats y'all...

A traitor and criminal was in office for four years and of course the Democrats are going to say forgive and forget and move on
 

shinobi602

Verified
Oct 24, 2017
8,357
Lot of the posts in here seem to want a left version of trump it feels like.
Exactly. Biden's job now is to get the stink of Trump out of the White House and re-establish some basic fucking norms, namely, the DOJ isn't the president's personal fucking law firm. For Biden to say he wants to prosecute Trump and former officials, especially now when his cabinet has to be confirmed, is stupid. He'll let the next AG and DOJ do their jobs, and if they want to investigate, he won't stop them. Meanwhile this says nothing about various state charges that likely won't stop.
 

Presice

Member
Mar 1, 2018
102
I'm okay with this. If he goes after Trump, it's going to consume his presidency. Let the states go after him if they want. Ideally, I'd hope to see Trump disappear into the sunset, but with his ambitions to launch a news network, that seems unlikely.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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LOL of course. We been trying to tell you guys. Let the criminality of the Trump administration be unpunished because pursuing it would be hurt his bipartisan cred and be divisive? This is who Joe Biden is.
 

Tackleberry

Member
Oct 31, 2017
4,835
Alliance, OH
There is no way we are putting a former POTUS in jail. Certainly not via federal action. It's just not the American way.
When that former president has a long history of con jobs and criminal activity.. if they are found guilty, in a court of law, then they should be behind bars.

NO ONE should be above the law. You want to prove that there is justice, then you do what you are supposed to do to criminals.. regardless of their former job.
 

steejee

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,618
He's been saying this for a while, and it's the correct thing - Let the DoJ and State AGs do their jobs, don't interfere one way or another.

The first step in purging the DoJ of the taint of Trump is to restore its independence and then reform it to prevent another Barr situation.

Edit: Still seeing a lot of people who are misinterpreting what Biden is saying he's going to do. HE'S NOT GOING TO PARDON TRUMP.
 

BriGuy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,275
There's a big gulf between directing your AG to investigate these goons and letting them go Scot-free. At least that's what I'm hoping I'm reading between the lines. Letting these guys escape prosecution entirely is effectively sanctioning their behavior; if they get away with it now, they'll do it again.
 

Tochtli79

Member
Jun 27, 2019
5,777
Mexico City
Well, get ready for 4 years of Trump attacking Biden daily, his supporters protesting and escalating, Republicans blocking any progress, and Trump or someone worse as President after.